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Our President has decided to sue the state of Arizona for, in a nutshell...racial profiling in the SB1070 Immigration Law. I believe this is a huge waste of taxpayers money considering there is NO reference to any particular race. Check it out yourself, straight from the Governor of Arizona site..
Type in the "find" box any race (black, white, hispanic) it will return with "no matches found" http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF I believe we should protest this bold over reaction and waste of our money in some way. Either... -Find a way for the Legal American People to vote on this issue (Obama's decision or the Immigration Law)all across the United States. -Or maybe we should sue the President for gross misuse of our Funds/Investments. What are your thoughts? Suggestions? |
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My understanding (from what I have read) is that this law was mirrored to the Federal law. The main difference (from what I can tell) is that the AZ law actually says racial profiling is prohibited. I'm sure someone will correct me on this, if I am wrong
 So if they are the same (or the AZ law actually does specify that profiling isn't allowed) then wouldn't they be suing for the same thing that is already a federal law? If the US won't enforce this law, then I believe the states have the right to adopt a law to enforce. |
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I agree
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ABSOLUTELY! YellowRose. Its a frivolous waste of OUR money For the Federal Government to sue a State for enforcing a law (same terms) that the Federal Government enacted YEARS ago and is still IN PLACE.
Thats why I believe the American People need to stand up and DO something. Just WHAT? |
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I think we should strip Arizona of its Statehood and make it a territory, again. :)
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I can't remember the latest number of states wanting to adopt similar laws, but if enough states adopt it, then hopefully the government will get the picture that if they won't enforce their own law, then the states will.
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The only difference is that border enforcement is normally done by the Federal government.Arizona is using it's own laws to enforce the border.That is the main case for the Feds suit.Who has the authority to enforce border laws?I do not think the Federal Governments court case will have a leg to stand on.They are suing their own law!It makes no sense.The bill already has strict rules against randomly asking people for ID.
Obama has made a fatal mistake bringing up this lawsuit.Everyone polled is for this new law no matter who you ask.He is breaking the law by not enforcing federal laws which he sworn to take a oath to. You want to stand up for the people then don't vote Democrat!Every one of these stupid un-American laws are always written and passed by Democrats.It is always the Republicans who are working to defeat these stupid laws. |
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I can't remember the latest number of states wanting to adopt similar laws, but if enough states adopt it, then hopefully the government will get the picture that if they won't enforce their own law, then the states will. http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/18-us-states-now-filing-versions-of-arizonas-immigration-bill-sb-1070/ 18 US States now filing versions of Arizona’s Immigration Bill SB 1070 One of America’s national organizations fighting against illegal immigration is announcing that 18 states are now filing versions of Arizona’s SB 1070 law which is designed to help local police enforce America’s existing immigration laws. Numerous national and local polls indicated that 60-81% of Americans support local police enforcing immigration laws. Activists have been working for almost four weeks now to encourage state lawmakers across the nation to file versions of SB 1070, to help alleviate boycotts and other political antagonism towards Arizona. Citizen activist are being asked to call, e-mail, visit, and fax their state lawmakers to encourage them to support existing SB 1070 type bills or to file them as soon as possible. We have documented the following 18 states are following Arizona’s lead in response to citizen pressure. Here’s the list of all US states seeking to adopt Arizona’s anti-illegal immigration law. 1 – Arkansas 2 – California 3 – Idaho 4 – Indiana 5 – Maryland 6 – Michigan 7 – Minnesota 8 – Missouri 9 – Nebraska 10 – Nevada 11 – New Jersey 12 – Ohio 13 – Oklahoma 14 – Pennsylvania 15 – Rhode Island 16 – South Carolina 17 – Texas 18 – Utah |
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I think we should strip Arizona of its Statehood and make it a territory, again. :) I would appreciate that! 
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Tue 07/13/10 09:47 PM
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Our President has decided to sue the state of Arizona for, in a nutshell...racial profiling in the SB1070 Immigration Law. I believe this is a huge waste of taxpayers money considering there is NO reference to any particular race. Check it out yourself, straight from the Governor of Arizona site.. Type in the "find" box any race (black, white, hispanic) it will return with "no matches found" http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF I believe we should protest this bold over reaction and waste of our money in some way. Either... -Find a way for the Legal American People to vote on this issue (Obama's decision or the Immigration Law)all across the United States. -Or maybe we should sue the President for gross misuse of our Funds/Investments. What are your thoughts? Suggestions? Actually the major law suit is over the violation of the rules that say immigration is a federal policy, not a state control. Arizona removed some of the profiling aspects of the law. There will be more than one law suit filed. The fact that Arizona would be willing to racially profile in their state is a problem in and of itself. A state of racists? Are they racist because they cannot see the crime making them ignorant of the crime committed or are they intentionally racial biased? When they can tell me how you identify an illegal alien on sight without being discriminatory or racial then I will let up my work to make sure they are identified as racially biased. My work to make sure that all who ever read me or talk to me know Arizona is not a good place to spend money or time. |
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It's all being done to make the 'undocumented Americans / future vote frauders' THINK that he's interested in them - after the election, he'll drop it ... this is all smoke and mirrors to make the targeted electoral bloc he's going after THINK that he's interested in 'em - he's not interested in ANYthing that doesn't have to do with HIMSELF ...
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Edited by
galendgirl
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Here's a poll with some interesting results from more than 3.5M respondents posted thus far...check it out!
http://world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/12/4274124-do-you-support-arizonas-tough-new-law-on-illegal-immigrationhttp:/world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/12/4274124-do-you-support-arizonas-tough-new-law-on-illegal-immigration> |
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Here's a poll with some interesting results from more than 3.5M respondents posted thus far...check it out! http://world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/12/4274124-do-you-support-arizonas-tough-new-law-on-illegal-immigrationhttp:/world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/12/4274124-do-you-support-arizonas-tough-new-law-on-illegal-immigration> That's a huge portion saying they agree with AZ looks like Americans support the law |
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I can't remember the latest number of states wanting to adopt similar laws, but if enough states adopt it, then hopefully the government will get the picture that if they won't enforce their own law, then the states will. http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/18-us-states-now-filing-versions-of-arizonas-immigration-bill-sb-1070/ 18 US States now filing versions of Arizona’s Immigration Bill SB 1070 One of America’s national organizations fighting against illegal immigration is announcing that 18 states are now filing versions of Arizona’s SB 1070 law which is designed to help local police enforce America’s existing immigration laws. Numerous national and local polls indicated that 60-81% of Americans support local police enforcing immigration laws. Activists have been working for almost four weeks now to encourage state lawmakers across the nation to file versions of SB 1070, to help alleviate boycotts and other political antagonism towards Arizona. Citizen activist are being asked to call, e-mail, visit, and fax their state lawmakers to encourage them to support existing SB 1070 type bills or to file them as soon as possible. We have documented the following 18 states are following Arizona’s lead in response to citizen pressure. Here’s the list of all US states seeking to adopt Arizona’s anti-illegal immigration law. 1 – Arkansas 2 – California 3 – Idaho 4 – Indiana 5 – Maryland 6 – Michigan 7 – Minnesota 8 – Missouri 9 – Nebraska 10 – Nevada 11 – New Jersey 12 – Ohio 13 – Oklahoma 14 – Pennsylvania 15 – Rhode Island 16 – South Carolina 17 – Texas 18 – Utah  Some of the states wanting to adopt it are the same ones boycotting Arizona for having it.  
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ya'll seem to forget, HE WANTS THE SPANISH VOTE!! they are scared of losing the house to repubs this nov.
 
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ya'll seem to forget, HE WANTS THE SPANISH VOTE!! they are scared of losing the house to repubs this nov. But it wont pass because if it does the Senate and House fear public reprisals at the poles themselves .... |
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ya'll seem to forget, HE WANTS THE SPANISH VOTE!! they are scared of losing the house to repubs this nov. But it wont pass because if it does the Senate and House fear public reprisals at the poles themselves .... i was thinking that too, it all seemed like a ploy, like saving face and then after the election... i guess we will just see... 
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Our President has decided to sue the state of Arizona for, in a nutshell...racial profiling in the SB1070 Immigration Law. I believe this is a huge waste of taxpayers money considering there is NO reference to any particular race. Check it out yourself, straight from the Governor of Arizona site.. Type in the "find" box any race (black, white, hispanic) it will return with "no matches found" http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF I believe we should protest this bold over reaction and waste of our money in some way. Either... -Find a way for the Legal American People to vote on this issue (Obama's decision or the Immigration Law)all across the United States. -Or maybe we should sue the President for gross misuse of our Funds/Investments. What are your thoughts? Suggestions? Actually the major law suit is over the violation of the rules that say immigration is a federal policy, not a state control. Arizona removed some of the profiling aspects of the law. There will be more than one law suit filed. The fact that Arizona would be willing to racially profile in their state is a problem in and of itself. A state of racists? Are they racist because they cannot see the crime making them ignorant of the crime committed or are they intentionally racial biased? When they can tell me how you identify an illegal alien on sight without being discriminatory or racial then I will let up my work to make sure they are identified as racially biased. My work to make sure that all who ever read me or talk to me know Arizona is not a good place to spend money or time. Can you post the original document (site) of SB1070 that shows in the content anyones specific race? Because I am not finding it and I would like to see. Very interesting points. Here are my own: If I drive a huge suburban,a van, or truck with dark windows and tons of "friends" packed in. I would expect to be pulled over anywhere in the border states. And Im white in color. If I run, when the vehicle stops..expect arrest. Point being is there or "signs" to look for. Lets say on the street. I run when I see a police officer. I would expect to be chased. In these cases they have probable cause to delay me and ask for identification at the very least. If I start shaking in my shoes when they ask questions...that would be suspicious. In any organization you go to, work at, deal with usually requires thorough identification(Drivers License, Social Security Card, etc). I drive(Phx to Tucson) all the time and live in this area so I have seen it. As far as Boycotting AZ thats your choice. The state of AZ is considering boycotting the states boycotting us. Is this what we really want as a society? |
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Edited by
kayak69
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Wed 07/14/10 03:14 PM
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Our President has decided to sue the state of Arizona for, in a nutshell...racial profiling in the SB1070 Immigration Law. I believe this is a huge waste of taxpayers money considering there is NO reference to any particular race. Check it out yourself, straight from the Governor of Arizona site.. Type in the "find" box any race (black, white, hispanic) it will return with "no matches found" http://www.azleg.gov/alispdfs/council/SB1070-HB2162.PDF I believe we should protest this bold over reaction and waste of our money in some way. Either... -Find a way for the Legal American People to vote on this issue (Obama's decision or the Immigration Law)all across the United States. -Or maybe we should sue the President for gross misuse of our Funds/Investments. What are your thoughts? Suggestions? Actually the major law suit is over the violation of the rules that say immigration is a federal policy, not a state control. Arizona removed some of the profiling aspects of the law. There will be more than one law suit filed. The fact that Arizona would be willing to racially profile in their state is a problem in and of itself. A state of racists? Are they racist because they cannot see the crime making them ignorant of the crime committed or are they intentionally racial biased? When they can tell me how you identify an illegal alien on sight without being discriminatory or racial then I will let up my work to make sure they are identified as racially biased. My work to make sure that all who ever read me or talk to me know Arizona is not a good place to spend money or time. How can you identify a legal driver with out seeing their drivers licence? Would you call that profiling? |
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Not sure how it is in other states, but if I am pulled over here for a traffic violation or whatever, I have to produce an ID (driver's license)
I would be held until they confirm who I am (I could have warrants or be a wanted fugitive, for all they know) This should be expected. KayaksJuliet, I THINK it was only Los Angeles that wanted the ban. Not the whole state, but then again, they do have Pelosi 
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