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Topic: Naturally Evil Gas
Dragoness's photo
Mon 08/02/10 04:39 PM
We have water that lights up when a lighter get close coming out of faucets in some areas.

number96's photo
Mon 08/02/10 04:42 PM
So you know what I'm talking about. Is your water brown? Or is there any gas wells close by?
If so, I would get the water tested.

Dragoness's photo
Mon 08/02/10 04:47 PM

So you know what I'm talking about. Is your water brown? Or is there any gas wells close by?
If so, I would get the water tested.


I live in the city so I don't get well water but it seems some of the wells are contaminated here.

number96's photo
Mon 08/02/10 05:48 PM
Do you know anyone who has mysteriously gotten sick, or someone who knows someone?

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/02/10 05:57 PM
well, i live in houston, and we have more refineries out here than most states do. sometimes even the air smells funny. but that tap water looks clean, i've never seen anything wrong with it. but you know, they make filters for water, even a pitcher that has a filter, and they are about 30 bucks.

number96's photo
Mon 08/02/10 06:02 PM
There is actually no retail or commercial filter you can get to filter out certain chemicals that cause neural damage.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/02/10 06:10 PM

There is actually no retail or commercial filter you can get to filter out certain chemicals that cause neural damage.


i used to sell water filer systems, and they get a lot more than you'd think. they water that comes out of the better systems is around 99 -100 % pure. pure water is the healthiest you can get. some of the filtered bottled water is 99.75% pure.

no photo
Mon 08/02/10 06:15 PM
Electric water heaters, Electric dryers, Electric stoves, Electric heat. I haven't had gas service or paid a Natural Gas bill in over 15 years. Am I the only person on the planet than has learned to live
without it?

Look its as simple as this, if they can't sale it and if there is no market for it, why keep producing it?

Problem solved



Oh and for the other problem, I'm single. smokin





number96's photo
Mon 08/02/10 06:20 PM
Edited by number96 on Mon 08/02/10 06:20 PM

Electric water heaters, Electric dryers, Electric stoves, Electric heat. I haven't had gas service or paid a Natural Gas bill in over 15 years. Am I the only person on the planet than has learned to live
without it?

Look its as simple as this, if they can't sale it and if there is no market for it, why keep producing it?

Problem solved



Oh and for the other problem, I'm single. smokin






Yes! You are doin' right. The only problem is, do you know how much of your electricity is produced by natural gas?
It is popular in some areas.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/02/10 06:22 PM


Electric water heaters, Electric dryers, Electric stoves, Electric heat. I haven't had gas service or paid a Natural Gas bill in over 15 years. Am I the only person on the planet than has learned to live
without it?

Look its as simple as this, if they can't sale it and if there is no market for it, why keep producing it?

Problem solved



Oh and for the other problem, I'm single. smokin






Yes! You are doin' right. The only problem is, do you know how much of your electricity is produced by natural gas?
It is popular in some areas.


most areas of the US u can choose your electric provider... can in texas anyway...cali too.

number96's photo
Mon 08/02/10 06:24 PM


There is actually no retail or commercial filter you can get to filter out certain chemicals that cause neural damage.


i used to sell water filer systems, and they get a lot more than you'd think. they water that comes out of the better systems is around 99 -100 % pure. pure water is the healthiest you can get. some of the filtered bottled water is 99.75% pure.

That may be so, but have you worked with deadly chemicals with molecules smaller than water molecules?

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/02/10 06:26 PM



There is actually no retail or commercial filter you can get to filter out certain chemicals that cause neural damage.


i used to sell water filer systems, and they get a lot more than you'd think. they water that comes out of the better systems is around 99 -100 % pure. pure water is the healthiest you can get. some of the filtered bottled water is 99.75% pure.

That may be so, but have you worked with deadly chemicals with molecules smaller than water molecules?


pretty sure they can... but i'll look it up and let you know if i find something.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 08/02/10 06:38 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 08/02/10 06:39 PM
here is a list of particles and their size
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_%28ecology%29
here is the size of particles that will be filterd.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microfiltration

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Mon 08/02/10 06:54 PM
Not to sound cynical but what you are describing is indicative of unfiltered well water from a questionable source!!

First of all for natural gas to be dissolved into water it has to be kept at pressure and there is no guarantee that source water will be clean from ANY well! PERIOD! Fact is well water is typically under pressure all the way to delivery in most areas with MINIMAL if any filtration in some municipalities. (I do this stuff for a living)

NOW rule of thumb is you DON'T drink the tap water unfiltered. If your water is brown you need a serious pre-house filter system and a secondary drinking water system. If your tap water is brown you need to get on someone's azz about that. It means something failed on their end.

Sometimes these under ground aquifers are just contaminated naturally. if you live in oil country... GUESS WHAT! WELL WATER IS GOING TO BE CONTAMINATED! Natural Gas and Oil go hand in hand. You almost always if not always find one with the other. With that said.

Invest in a filter system and find out what the hell is wrong with the municipality that serves your area! If you are getting natural gas in your water many states have purity laws and any Department of Agriculture can point you in the right direction becasue water is part of their game. You can also contact the local Water District or "Water and Power" depending on the municipality. Now if you are getting Hexavalent Chromium in your water or any other heavy metal and you are not filtered even for washing and bathing then move!

Now word of warning about filtration systems, unless you know what you are up against and how to deal with it you may not protect yourself adequately. Also some systems are gimmicky and expensive. Others are just expensive to maintain.


Now if you are renting and your landlord like to do all his own repairs crawl under the house and look for repair work where galvanized pipe is connected directly to galvanized pipe. Water heaters are a common place to find this. Also pipes going into the walls are a common site for Do It Yourselfers who do not know anything about plumbing and do a Copper "Repipe" incorrectly. You will know you hit paydirt if you find a copper pipe that has a LOT of green colored corrosion at the joint and near it where the copper and galvanized join. That is illegal in EVERY state! If you are going to tie into galvanized plumbing YOU MUST USE DIELECTRIC UNIONS or brass!

What happens is Galvanic Corrosion within the pipes. Copper is released into the water as Cupric Acid which is a heavy metal poisoning if you drink the water. You also get iron in the water making it turn brown.

Old galvanized plumbing going bad also can cause water coloration problems too.

Here in LA the water is so Carbonate and Silicate hard you could beat people to death with it like a baseball bat!

Thorb's photo
Mon 08/02/10 07:01 PM
Edited by Thorb on Mon 08/02/10 07:03 PM

There is actually no retail or commercial filter you can get to filter out certain chemicals that cause neural damage.


totally not true ... distillation will take everything out of your water
most people don't need to go that far and reverse osmosis is good enough ... it will even take 97 percent of disolved salt out of water. which is one of the hardest things to remove.

if you have water ... you can have clean drinking water ... its lthat simple of course I have not looked into fixing radiation in water but if that is the case ... you should move.

no photo
Mon 08/02/10 07:08 PM

Do you know anyone who has mysteriously gotten sick, or someone who knows someone?


This is what's known in the trade as an 'open-ended' question - the blanks can be filled in with any answer. Trouble is, the 'answer' doesn't have to be (a) relevant or (b) honest. No cigar.

AndyBgood's photo
Mon 08/02/10 08:21 PM


There is actually no retail or commercial filter you can get to filter out certain chemicals that cause neural damage.


totally not true ... distillation will take everything out of your water
most people don't need to go that far and reverse osmosis is good enough ... it will even take 97 percent of disolved salt out of water. which is one of the hardest things to remove.

if you have water ... you can have clean drinking water ... its lthat simple of course I have not looked into fixing radiation in water but if that is the case ... you should move.


Distillation falls WAY short on solvents though! This is a proper filter system, Particle filtration (heavy), Particle filtration (small factions), carbon block primary, Distillation, secondary carbon, water softening (preferably with a non salt unit, look up Pelican Water Softeners!), reverse osmosis. This is a proper set up. If you can afford to set up this way use a settling pond first with a sand bed strainer! Follow with a distiller and then carbon and the Reverse Osmosis. Even the Romans had a water filter that did particulates pretty effectively without using media.

DO NOT USE DEINOIZATION UNLESS YOU RESERVOIR IN A PLASTIC TANK FOR SPOT FREE RINSE WATER! DI water will react to metal! It will also destroy thankless water heaters FAST! Reverse Osmosis as the end step is just fine. RO is wasteful so have a second reservoir to capture the waste water of RO and use it to water your garden. Might as well be efficient!

Redykeulous's photo
Mon 08/02/10 09:03 PM
Great information Angelbody, thanks for the tips.

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