Topic: Are internet people real
Thorb's photo
Mon 09/13/10 05:22 PM
I love gazing into someone's eyes but I realize
that "windo to the soul" is just poetic licence
it my imagination and pheremones that mix in with that eye dance.
Lies ...

everyone lies ...
and anyone who says they never lie is a liar for sure.

are people real on the internet ... no ... they are on the internet.
you want real people go bowling.

people are their thoughts on the internet
thoughts consist of knowledge mixed with emotion, fantasy, hopes, dreams, doubts, fears, etc. etc.

on the internet we are only what we can express
in the flesh we are only what we do

enjoy your time wherever you are and life will be good.
bytch and life will suck.oops

waving

chelsea466's photo
Mon 09/13/10 09:05 PM
If people are so skeptical about the internet and people being real then why bother with an online dating site??? Honestly, out of every 100 new people who join there is bound to be at least 1 thread about this topic.

You have to use commen sense and good judgement. Someone you meet on the street could be such a compulsive liar that everything they tell you is a complete lie but cover it so well. Same goes for the internet except it's a lot easier to do online. Until you really get to know someone you probably are not going to believe everything from some of the other users on here.


9erguy's photo
Mon 09/13/10 09:33 PM
Edited by 9erguy on Mon 09/13/10 09:36 PM



YOU can believe whatever you'd like but scientists would prove you wrong and well have for like ever.. The brain is not relative or someone's perception.. If your brain doesn't work then YOU don't work.. I mean really, what is so difficult to understand about that? Unless of course you've done absolutely no reading whatsoever on the brain and how it works.. If that is the case then I can recommend some books or classes for you....


I can also recommend a book for you. It is called the mind and the brain by Jeffery Schwartz, he is the director of psychology at UCLA.

A person cannot function without their lungs or heart, but that does not mean they use their lungs to think.

the old theories of fixed brain patterns are being disproven even today. Everybody thinks they have it all figured out until something new comes along. First cells were teh smallest unit, then atoms, then quarks.

Pluto used to be a planet.

I am not saying a person can function without the brain, I never said anything of the like, I said that the brain is reactionary to the mind, not just a randomly fireing organ that "just does because it does."

Sure the theory of neuroplasticity and mind stuff has not been proven, but it has not been disproven either.

IndnPrncs's photo
Mon 09/13/10 09:40 PM
I disagree..

Neurons form complex and ever-changing webs which make possible the speed, flexibility, and durability of our *thoughts*. Rather than being completely centralized in one place in the brain, mental processes are "distributed" (i.e., they occur throughout the brain) and can use different pathways, which is important for *managing many different thoughts* as we must do.

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Mon 09/13/10 09:53 PM

I disagree..

Neurons form complex and ever-changing webs which make possible the speed, flexibility, and durability of our *thoughts*. Rather than being completely centralized in one place in the brain, mental processes are "distributed" (i.e., they occur throughout the brain) and can use different pathways, which is important for *managing many different thoughts* as we must do.


Right, I am not saying that the brain doesn't fire neurons which in turn become thoughts, what I am saying is that it is very possible that said electro charges are a reaction to finite thought particles we don't have technology to ditect yet. They don't "just fire because they do."

Twenty years ago that "ever changing web" was thought to be fixed neuron patterns, but through more extensive work and better technology it was proven that the thought patterns could in fact be altered in adults too, not just children. Neurons that fire together wire together, and through using the brain a certain way the patterns that were developed in childhood could in fact be altered. The question is if the brain was the alpha and omega of the thought process what makes this change possible?

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Mon 09/13/10 09:58 PM


I disagree..

Neurons form complex and ever-changing webs which make possible the speed, flexibility, and durability of our *thoughts*. Rather than being completely centralized in one place in the brain, mental processes are "distributed" (i.e., they occur throughout the brain) and can use different pathways, which is important for *managing many different thoughts* as we must do.


Right, I am not saying that the brain doesn't fire neurons which in turn become thoughts, what I am saying is that it is very possible that said electro charges are a reaction to finite thought particles we don't have technology to ditect yet. They don't "just fire because they do."

Twenty years ago that "ever changing web" was thought to be fixed neuron patterns, but through more extensive work and better technology it was proven that the thought patterns could in fact be altered in adults too, not just children. Neurons that fire together wire together, and through using the brain a certain way the patterns that were developed in childhood could in fact be altered. The question is if the brain was the alpha and omega of the thought process what makes this change possible?


With the way the brain works, I don't find it surprising that the patterns can be changed... that is what we're all based on, what most everything in the world is based on "adaptation"...

9erguy's photo
Mon 09/13/10 10:03 PM
Edited by 9erguy on Mon 09/13/10 10:04 PM



I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.

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Mon 09/13/10 10:08 PM




I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..

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Mon 09/13/10 10:11 PM





I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..


A giant man in the sky? Get outta here. Do you mean Mr Moon? I still believe he is made out of cheese..........smokin

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Mon 09/13/10 10:12 PM






I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..


A giant man in the sky? Get outta here. Do you mean Mr Moon? I still believe he is made out of cheese..........smokin


Right!laugh laugh laugh

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Mon 09/13/10 10:18 PM





I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..


I have read numerous books, some recient, some as old as the books that you talk about reading. Your profile says you are a christian. The basis of christianity is that Jesus dies for our sins, was resurrected, and through believing in him you go to heaven to be with he and god.


Goofball73's photo
Mon 09/13/10 10:19 PM
Let's talk Scientology! :tongue: laugh

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Mon 09/13/10 10:20 PM






I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..


I have read numerous books, some recient, some as old as the books that you talk about reading. Your profile says you are a christian. The basis of christianity is that Jesus dies for our sins, was resurrected, and through believing in him you go to heaven to be with he and god.





I have a book about green eggs and ham...........smokin

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Mon 09/13/10 10:26 PM






I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..


I have read numerous books, some recient, some as old as the books that you talk about reading. Your profile says you are a christian. The basis of christianity is that Jesus dies for our sins, was resurrected, and through believing in him you go to heaven to be with he and god.




ahhh you're an assumption maker.. How do you know I didn't just say that to attract the boys? laugh laugh laugh

My beliefs are not what we were discussing.. We were discussing the "brain".. I stated my knowledge and studies of the brain... If you'd like to know about "my beliefs" I will tell you.. I believe in God and I believe in Jesus.. I believe that God did a fabulously AMAZING job at making life and that the brain is an incredible thing and I know my thoughts come from my brain and without my brain I would not have thoughts.. I believe in adaptation as everything must adapt to survive... I do not confuse "adaptation" with evolution....

Goofball73's photo
Mon 09/13/10 10:29 PM







I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..


I have read numerous books, some recient, some as old as the books that you talk about reading. Your profile says you are a christian. The basis of christianity is that Jesus dies for our sins, was resurrected, and through believing in him you go to heaven to be with he and god.





I have a book about green eggs and ham...........smokin


Thou doeth liketh green eggs and ham....?

I doeth not like them Sam I am............

9erguy's photo
Mon 09/13/10 10:33 PM







I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..


I have read numerous books, some recient, some as old as the books that you talk about reading. Your profile says you are a christian. The basis of christianity is that Jesus dies for our sins, was resurrected, and through believing in him you go to heaven to be with he and god.




ahhh you're an assumption maker.. How do you know I didn't just say that to attract the boys? laugh laugh laugh

My beliefs are not what we were discussing.. We were discussing the "brain".. I stated my knowledge and studies of the brain... If you'd like to know about "my beliefs" I will tell you.. I believe in God and I believe in Jesus.. I believe that God did a fabulously AMAZING job at making life and that the brain is an incredible thing and I know my thoughts come from my brain and without my brain I would not have thoughts.. I believe in adaptation as everything must adapt to survive... I do not confuse "adaptation" with evolution....


You have not answered the question of why the brain fires, unless you just did with your answer "god did it." which has no place in a scientific discussion.

Here is a metaphor to help you understand what I am trying to say, because I must not be explaining properly. I am not saying the brain does not think, I am saying it is not the origin of thought itself.

I think the brain is like a TV. We both agree that there are pictures on the TV (thoughts from neuron patterns), but I feel there needs to be a signal send to the TV for the pictures to arise.

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Mon 09/13/10 10:36 PM








I don't understand how you can think a giant man that lives in the sky, that sent his heavenly son, who died, then came back to life so he could help everyone live in this imaginary land with this giant being in the sky, but only if you believe in him based on a book that he did not even write, without any proof whatsoever. Yet you find the idea of the brain being reactionary to thought particles as impossible.


How do you know whether or not I believe in the "giant man" in the sky? I don't believe we've had that conversation... Certainly not within this conversation... AND my beliefs are based on what I've learned in my studies.. I didn't just read one book and jump on the band wagon..


I have read numerous books, some recient, some as old as the books that you talk about reading. Your profile says you are a christian. The basis of christianity is that Jesus dies for our sins, was resurrected, and through believing in him you go to heaven to be with he and god.





I have a book about green eggs and ham...........smokin


Thou doeth liketh green eggs and ham....?

I doeth not like them Sam I am............



That's old school brother........smokin

IndnPrncs's photo
Mon 09/13/10 10:37 PM
Ok you're not explaining your thoughts well.. The brain was built to fire so yes, God set it up that way.. That being said, what your "eyes" see when watching TV, you do not "get" until it travels to the brain and hits the neurons and fires back the understanding of what you're seeing..

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Mon 09/13/10 11:04 PM
Edited by kc0003 on Mon 09/13/10 11:11 PM

Ok you're not explaining your thoughts well.. The brain was built to fire so yes, God set it up that way.. That being said, what your "eyes" see when watching TV, you do not "get" until it travels to the brain and hits the neurons and fires back the understanding of what you're seeing..




right...then the brain decides when and how those eyes will react. it doesnt matter the exact process, what matters is that your eyes are being controlled by something that can calculate in nanoseconds, risk, reward, consequences, truth or deception. therefor they (eyes) are not a dependable measure of truth...

i think that was what your post was about before you introduced the "man in the sky"


IndnPrncs's photo
Mon 09/13/10 11:07 PM


Ok you're not explaining your thoughts well.. The brain was built to fire so yes, God set it up that way.. That being said, what your "eyes" see when watching TV, you do not "get" until it travels to the brain and hits the neurons and fires back the understanding of what you're seeing..




right...then the brain decides when and how those eyes will react. it doesnt matter the exact process, what matters is that your eyes are being controlled by something that can calculate in nanoseconds, risk, reward, consequences, truth or deception. therefor they (eyes) are not a dependable measure of truth...

i think that was what you're post was about before you introduced the "man in the sky"




Yes....