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willing2's photo
Sun 10/24/10 07:49 AM
Islamic Court, Wife Beating: UAE (United Arab Emirates) Federal Supreme Court Okay if Leaves No Physical Marks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58&feature=player_embedded

UAE Islamic Court, Wife Beating: United Arab Emirates Federal Supreme Court Okay if Leaves No Physical Marks (Cuts & Bruises)

The United Arab Emirates Federal Supreme Court has given official permission for men to beat their wives in line with Islamic tradition. A man may beat his wife and young children as long as the beating leaves no physical marks. This follows on the heels of prominent Islamic scholars who have voiced similar opinions. It might be pointed out that even in Western society wife beating was legal in some circumstances and locations in the United States for example until explicitly outlawed in 1870. The UAE ruling specifies that no physical marks may be left, though this leaves open questions of the degree that this entails. This is in contrast to a UAE case in which a man who left cuts & bruises on wife & adult daughter which was ruled criminal, specifically “guilty of harming” the women, but not of the disciplinary action itself.

Posted on October 19th, 2010

http://www.supermediablog.com/news/islamic-court-wife-beating-uae-united-arab-emirates-federal-supreme-court-leaves-no-physical-marks/

willing2's photo
Sun 10/24/10 08:00 AM
DC needs to be petitioned to put a stop to this violence against women and kids.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 08:06 AM

Islamic Court, Wife Beating: UAE (United Arab Emirates) Federal Supreme Court Okay if Leaves No Physical Marks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58&feature=player_embedded

UAE Islamic Court, Wife Beating: United Arab Emirates Federal Supreme Court Okay if Leaves No Physical Marks (Cuts & Bruises)

The United Arab Emirates Federal Supreme Court has given official permission for men to beat their wives in line with Islamic tradition. A man may beat his wife and young children as long as the beating leaves no physical marks. This follows on the heels of prominent Islamic scholars who have voiced similar opinions. It might be pointed out that even in Western society wife beating was legal in some circumstances and locations in the United States for example until explicitly outlawed in 1870. The UAE ruling specifies that no physical marks may be left, though this leaves open questions of the degree that this entails. This is in contrast to a UAE case in which a man who left cuts & bruises on wife & adult daughter which was ruled criminal, specifically “guilty of harming” the women, but not of the disciplinary action itself.

Posted on October 19th, 2010

http://www.supermediablog.com/news/islamic-court-wife-beating-uae-united-arab-emirates-federal-supreme-court-leaves-no-physical-marks/


four letters BDSM (and they leave scars,,lol)

willing2's photo
Sun 10/24/10 10:32 AM
It's sad this happens to women.
It's sadder still, when women would defend this type of behavior.
Not referring to you, Ms Harmony. I know you wuz just crackin' a funny.:wink: flowerforyou

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 10/24/10 04:35 PM
Two completly different ideologies. Middle Eastern countries follow far different rules than our Western civilization, you can't police the country...so quit trying before you put more American graves out in the cemetary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RePriPCmlro [Epilepsy Trigger Warning]

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 04:55 PM
I spank my children, it leaves no marks and I love and cherish them as well. I believe it entirely possible to discipline an adult IF that relationship is one where there is an agreed upon DOMINANT partner, as I believe some Islam cultures have.

I dont find this as appalling as I am expected to I am sure.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 10/24/10 05:24 PM
Nothing at all funny about this issue...but it's great that a caring American would bring up a horrible problem for all women on this planet. Hell, it was legal the US up until around 1980 to beat your wife...the "rule of thumb". Police in the 1970's did little and considered it a "domestic issue".

Past abuse in the US, "In 2005, 1,181 women were murdered by an intimate partner. That's an average of three women every day in the US."

Here's a great site to donate, support or get help.

http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html

MURDER

In 2005, 1,181 women were murdered by an intimate partner. That's an average of three women every day. Of all the women murdered in the U.S., about one-third were killed by an intimate partner.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

(Intimate Partner Violence or Battering)
Domestic violence can be defined as a pattern of abusive behavior in any relationship that is used by one partner to gain or maintain power and control over an intimate partner. According to the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, women experience about 4.8 million intimate partner-related physical assaults and rapes every year. Less than 20 percent of battered women sought medical treatment following an injury.

SEXUAL VIOLENCE

According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, which includes crimes that were not reported to the police, 232,960 women in the U.S. were raped or sexually assaulted in 2006. That's more than 600 women every day. Other estimates, such as those generated by the FBI, are much lower because they rely on data from law enforcement agencies. A significant number of crimes are never even reported for reasons that include the victim's feeling that nothing can/will be done and the personal nature of the incident.

THE TARGETS

Young women, low-income women and some minorities are disproportionately victims of domestic violence and rape. Women ages 20-24 are at greatest risk of nonfatal domestic violence, and women age 24 and under suffer from the highest rates of rape. The Justice Department estimates that one in five women will experience rape or attempted rape during their college years, and that less than five percent of these rapes will be reported. Income is also a factor: the poorer the household, the higher the rate of domestic violence -- with women in the lowest income category experiencing more than six times the rate of nonfatal intimate partner violence as compared to women in the highest income category. When we consider race, we see that African-American women face higher rates of domestic violence than white women, and American-Indian women are victimized at a rate more than double that of women of other races.12

IMPACT ON CHILDREN

According to the Family Violence Prevention Fund, "growing up in a violent home may be a terrifying and traumatic experience that can affect every aspect of a child's life, growth and development. . . . children who have been exposed to family violence suffer symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, such as bed-wetting or nightmares, and were at greater risk than their peers of having allergies, asthma, gastrointestinal problems, headaches and flu." In addition, women who experience physcial abuse as children are at a greater risk of victimization as adults, and men have a far greater (more than double) likelihood of perpetrating abuse.


Seakolony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:04 PM

Nothing at all funny about this issue...but it's great that a caring American would bring up a horrible problem for all women on this planet. Hell, it was legal the US up until around 1980 to beat your wife...the "rule of thumb". Police in the 1970's did little and considered it a "domestic issue".

Past abuse in the US, "In 2005, 1,181 women were murdered by an intimate partner. That's an average of three women every day in the US."

Here's a great site to donate, support or get help.

http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html

MURDER

In 2005, 1,181 women were murdered by an intimate partner. That's an average of three women every day. Of all the women murdered in the U.S., about one-third were killed by an intimate partner.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE

(Intimate Partner Violence or Battering)
Domestic violence can be defined as a pattern of abusive behavior in any relationship that is used by one partner to gain or maintain power and control over an intimate partner. According to the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, women experience about 4.8 million intimate partner-related physical assaults and rapes every year. Less than 20 percent of battered women sought medical treatment following an injury.

SEXUAL VIOLENCE

According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, which includes crimes that were not reported to the police, 232,960 women in the U.S. were raped or sexually assaulted in 2006. That's more than 600 women every day. Other estimates, such as those generated by the FBI, are much lower because they rely on data from law enforcement agencies. A significant number of crimes are never even reported for reasons that include the victim's feeling that nothing can/will be done and the personal nature of the incident.

THE TARGETS

Young women, low-income women and some minorities are disproportionately victims of domestic violence and rape. Women ages 20-24 are at greatest risk of nonfatal domestic violence, and women age 24 and under suffer from the highest rates of rape. The Justice Department estimates that one in five women will experience rape or attempted rape during their college years, and that less than five percent of these rapes will be reported. Income is also a factor: the poorer the household, the higher the rate of domestic violence -- with women in the lowest income category experiencing more than six times the rate of nonfatal intimate partner violence as compared to women in the highest income category. When we consider race, we see that African-American women face higher rates of domestic violence than white women, and American-Indian women are victimized at a rate more than double that of women of other races.12

IMPACT ON CHILDREN

According to the Family Violence Prevention Fund, "growing up in a violent home may be a terrifying and traumatic experience that can affect every aspect of a child's life, growth and development. . . . children who have been exposed to family violence suffer symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, such as bed-wetting or nightmares, and were at greater risk than their peers of having allergies, asthma, gastrointestinal problems, headaches and flu." In addition, women who experience physcial abuse as children are at a greater risk of victimization as adults, and men have a far greater (more than double) likelihood of perpetrating abuse.



I may get sick a lot, have ptsd, but never allowed myself to be victimized as an adult............

willing2's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:05 PM
So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line?drinker

Seakolony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:09 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Sun 10/24/10 06:11 PM

So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line?drinker

No not in the US....but it is not our right to intefere in the laws of another country....many countries hold women in esteem and many do not....but it is our job to uphold the laws here and when moving here it is there job to learn and follow them

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:16 PM

So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line?drinker



only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,,

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Sun 10/24/10 06:21 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Sun 10/24/10 06:22 PM


So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line?drinker



only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,,


i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time....

don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time?

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:26 PM



So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line?drinker



only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,,


i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time....

don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time?


there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude

willing2's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:27 PM
If they will put up with it, I guess they deserve it.

I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't wanna' wake up dead in a burnin' bed.noway

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:28 PM
its all personal preference,, some like a spanking(the harder the better) , some would shoot you for even pushing them

good to know your partner,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:32 PM




So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line?drinker



only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,,


i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time....

don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time?


there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude

so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more?
i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt.

Seakolony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:50 PM
Edited by Seakolony on Sun 10/24/10 06:51 PM

its all personal preference,, some like a spanking(the harder the better) , some would shoot you for even pushing them

good to know your partner,,,

Being spanked during sex is quite different from being beaten and abused

willing2's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:54 PM


its all personal preference,, some like a spanking(the harder the better) , some would shoot you for even pushing them

good to know your partner,,,

Being spanked during sex is quite different from being beaten and abused

Please do, expound.:wink: flowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:55 PM





So, it's a good idea to be a dominant man and give yer woman a good whoopin' just to keep her in line?drinker



only if she is of the same mind and the WHOOPIN isnt anything extreme,,,


i guess it's time to get a beer, put the wife beater on, and get to whoopin... danged woman didn't have my dinner ready on time....

don't worry, i won't leave any marks... maybe a good phone book this time?


there are all types of relationships, if she is foolish enough not to mind being hit with a phone book(didnt know that doesnt leave marks, seems like it would),, than thats on her dude

so it is the woman's fault? is that what your saying? someone who is scared and dosn't know what to do for fear of getting beat more?
i won't argue that some women actually want that, but i feel that most don't... when one person gets inside anothers head, the damage can be severe... so a lot of these women may want the help, but do not know how to reach for it without getting hurt.



ya have a bad habit of paraphrasing me quite inaccurately,,,

I didnt BLAME anyone, its not my thing to BLAME people, Im more about responsibility

there are situations, far too many where women are BEATEN, and there are situations where men are BEATEN(in relationships with women) and there is a WHOLE lot of gray area in between that consenting adults AGREE to(not talking about those who do it out of fear, but those who just AGREE, of their own values and volition, with certain relationship guidelines with their partner)

as one who was spanked, both as a child and an adult, I feel people are far too impulsive the minute anyone mentions any physical form of discipline,,,, it is a legitimate form of discipline that is different from the extreme BEATINGS that people like to lump it with

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/24/10 06:56 PM


its all personal preference,, some like a spanking(the harder the better) , some would shoot you for even pushing them

good to know your partner,,,

Being spanked during sex is quite different from being beaten and abused



only if one is consenting to the spanking, otherwise its assault just like any other,,

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