Topic: The Gift of Heaven ...a gift or a gag
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Wed 11/03/10 12:14 PM


No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.

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Wed 11/03/10 12:19 PM


Cowboy wrote:

No we will not have sex in heaven.


By the way, can you show us where it actually states this in the Bible?

Or is this just more Cowboyainity?




Perhaps noone has sex in Heaven because people in Heaven are mindless robots only serving to inflate the ego of a selfish and insecure godthing. Mindless robots, who do nothing but praise and worship God, don't really need sex.


No, we will live in a paradise, returning to the garden of Eden if you may "figuratively speaking". Heaven is brought down to earth after the tribulation and all that havoc. Earth will then be renewed and made fresh for the ones that received the gift of eternal life. Not a constant worship of our father.

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Wed 11/03/10 03:59 PM



No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


since the holy spirit did get the Virgin Mary pregnant that is an indication that it's possible that ghosts in Heaven can have sex they are just not allowed because it would equate to lust which is an abomination and get them kicked out of Heaven ...so would one consider being stuck in a state of perpetual horniness for all eternality a gift or a nightmare

MiddleEarthling's photo
Wed 11/03/10 07:08 PM



No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


I LOVE SEX...and since I am past my days of wanting to "reproduce" I at least stay in practice as much as possible...even if I am alone.

To say that sex is only for physical reasons is to dismiss love and romance. It takes a very very very sad person to just have sex to "reproduce"...freakin' robots for da lord!

I pity the fool who buys into that crap...must have no life at all. What are they to say to their date? How about "If you're a god worthy woman I may insert my penis into you to make a baby"...lol...good luck with that line.




CowboyGH's photo
Wed 11/03/10 08:01 PM




No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


since the holy spirit did get the Virgin Mary pregnant that is an indication that it's possible that ghosts in Heaven can have sex they are just not allowed because it would equate to lust which is an abomination and get them kicked out of Heaven ...so would one consider being stuck in a state of perpetual horniness for all eternality a gift or a nightmare


But Marry and the holy spirit did not have "sex". It's in the same sense of artificial insemination. No "sex" is required.

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Wed 11/03/10 08:03 PM




No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


I LOVE SEX...and since I am past my days of wanting to "reproduce" I at least stay in practice as much as possible...even if I am alone.

To say that sex is only for physical reasons is to dismiss love and romance. It takes a very very very sad person to just have sex to "reproduce"...freakin' robots for da lord!

I pity the fool who buys into that crap...must have no life at all. What are they to say to their date? How about "If you're a god worthy woman I may insert my penis into you to make a baby"...lol...good luck with that line.






Yes it is an experience of romance which involves love. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, a physical desire. In heaven we will not have fleshly bodies, we will be given a new body a spiritual body. Which would then not have flesh which would then not have the desire to have sexual intercourse.

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Thu 11/04/10 03:54 AM





No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


since the holy spirit did get the Virgin Mary pregnant that is an indication that it's possible that ghosts in Heaven can have sex they are just not allowed because it would equate to lust which is an abomination and get them kicked out of Heaven ...so would one consider being stuck in a state of perpetual horniness for all eternality a gift or a nightmare


But Marry and the holy spirit did not have "sex". It's in the same sense of artificial insemination. No "sex" is required.


Isn't that the same excuse former President Clinton tried to use for what he had done with Monica Lewinsky ...as in his famous quote "I didn't have sex with that woman"

according to the belief Mary was filled with the Holy Spirit which means that the Holy Spirit penetrated Mary ..they had ghost sex ....either way the holy spirit committed the same sin that he destroyed the nephilim for ...having children with his human creations

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Thu 11/04/10 04:01 AM




No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


I LOVE SEX...and since I am past my days of wanting to "reproduce" I at least stay in practice as much as possible...even if I am alone.

To say that sex is only for physical reasons is to dismiss love and romance. It takes a very very very sad person to just have sex to "reproduce"...freakin' robots for da lord!

I pity the fool who buys into that crap...must have no life at all. What are they to say to their date? How about "If you're a god worthy woman I may insert my penis into you to make a baby"...lol...good luck with that line.


the correct wholesome pure and proper way to ask a spouse for non-lustful sex to make children is to say ...Can we perform a biological function necessary for mental and physical reproduction stimulation while we try to refrain from sexual gratification

MiddleEarthling's photo
Thu 11/04/10 06:09 AM





No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


I LOVE SEX...and since I am past my days of wanting to "reproduce" I at least stay in practice as much as possible...even if I am alone.

To say that sex is only for physical reasons is to dismiss love and romance. It takes a very very very sad person to just have sex to "reproduce"...freakin' robots for da lord!

I pity the fool who buys into that crap...must have no life at all. What are they to say to their date? How about "If you're a god worthy woman I may insert my penis into you to make a baby"...lol...good luck with that line.






Yes it is an experience of romance which involves love. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, a physical desire. In heaven we will not have fleshly bodies, we will be given a new body a spiritual body. Which would then not have flesh which would then not have the desire to have sexual intercourse.


No, you said, "Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only"..so now you are a liar as well as zombie for da lord.

Living life in contadiction must be what's confusing you so much. I feel sorry for you and hope you get some mental health help.



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Thu 11/04/10 07:33 AM



No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.



Cowboy, do some research on that subject. Sex is pleasurable and a gift. There is no doubt in my mind that "sex for procreation only" is a doctrine of men...


Proverbs 5:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.


and


1 Corinthians 7:1-6 (King James Version)

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.




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Thu 11/04/10 07:35 AM






No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


I LOVE SEX...and since I am past my days of wanting to "reproduce" I at least stay in practice as much as possible...even if I am alone.

To say that sex is only for physical reasons is to dismiss love and romance. It takes a very very very sad person to just have sex to "reproduce"...freakin' robots for da lord!

I pity the fool who buys into that crap...must have no life at all. What are they to say to their date? How about "If you're a god worthy woman I may insert my penis into you to make a baby"...lol...good luck with that line.






Yes it is an experience of romance which involves love. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, a physical desire. In heaven we will not have fleshly bodies, we will be given a new body a spiritual body. Which would then not have flesh which would then not have the desire to have sexual intercourse.


No, you said, "Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only"..so now you are a liar as well as zombie for da lord.

Living life in contadiction must be what's confusing you so much. I feel sorry for you and hope you get some mental health help.





I guess you can't see those transparent walls...

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Thu 11/04/10 07:58 AM







No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.


I LOVE SEX...and since I am past my days of wanting to "reproduce" I at least stay in practice as much as possible...even if I am alone.

To say that sex is only for physical reasons is to dismiss love and romance. It takes a very very very sad person to just have sex to "reproduce"...freakin' robots for da lord!

I pity the fool who buys into that crap...must have no life at all. What are they to say to their date? How about "If you're a god worthy woman I may insert my penis into you to make a baby"...lol...good luck with that line.






Yes it is an experience of romance which involves love. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, a physical desire. In heaven we will not have fleshly bodies, we will be given a new body a spiritual body. Which would then not have flesh which would then not have the desire to have sexual intercourse.


No, you said, "Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only"..so now you are a liar as well as zombie for da lord.

Living life in contadiction must be what's confusing you so much. I feel sorry for you and hope you get some mental health help.





I guess you can't see those transparent walls...

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


What contradiction is there? One post i said this

"Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only."

and then I said this

"But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, a physical desire."

So where exactly is the contradiction in what I was saying? Sexual intercourse outside of physical pleasure and reproduction is to share passion with your loved one. Sex isn't the only way passion can be shared with one another. So there is no real big need for it outside of reproduction.

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Thu 11/04/10 08:04 AM




No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.



Cowboy, do some research on that subject. Sex is pleasurable and a gift. There is no doubt in my mind that "sex for procreation only" is a doctrine of men...


Proverbs 5:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.


and


1 Corinthians 7:1-6 (King James Version)

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.






Yes that is sexual intercourse amongst a married couple. We are to enjoy one another in terms of marriage. But that again is a physical experience and a physical way to share passion with your loved one. There are many ways to share passion with your loved one other then "sexual intercourse". And the sexual intercourse way of sharing the passion will no longer be needed when we don't have "physical" bodies. The horizon is much more broad then you're seeing.

Again, yes we are to enjoy the one we're married to physically yes. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, therefore when we're changed into a spiritual body there will be no need for such an action.

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Thu 11/04/10 08:35 AM





No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.



Cowboy, do some research on that subject. Sex is pleasurable and a gift. There is no doubt in my mind that "sex for procreation only" is a doctrine of men...


Proverbs 5:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.


and


1 Corinthians 7:1-6 (King James Version)

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.






Yes that is sexual intercourse amongst a married couple. We are to enjoy one another in terms of marriage. But that again is a physical experience and a physical way to share passion with your loved one. There are many ways to share passion with your loved one other then "sexual intercourse". And the sexual intercourse way of sharing the passion will no longer be needed when we don't have "physical" bodies. The horizon is much more broad then you're seeing.

Again, yes we are to enjoy the one we're married to physically yes. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, therefore when we're changed into a spiritual body there will be no need for such an action.


Cowboy, please read carefully what I wrote, I see the horizon just fine.

I was specifically addressing this paragraph that you wrote.
"Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only."

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Thu 11/04/10 09:31 AM

To say that sex is only for physical reasons is to dismiss love and romance. It takes a very very very sad person to just have sex to "reproduce"...freakin' robots for da lord!


Love and Romance is not needed for a "Holy Ghost Quickie" ...you simply float in you float out then you disappear

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Thu 11/04/10 10:12 AM






No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.



Cowboy, do some research on that subject. Sex is pleasurable and a gift. There is no doubt in my mind that "sex for procreation only" is a doctrine of men...


Proverbs 5:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.


and


1 Corinthians 7:1-6 (King James Version)

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.






Yes that is sexual intercourse amongst a married couple. We are to enjoy one another in terms of marriage. But that again is a physical experience and a physical way to share passion with your loved one. There are many ways to share passion with your loved one other then "sexual intercourse". And the sexual intercourse way of sharing the passion will no longer be needed when we don't have "physical" bodies. The horizon is much more broad then you're seeing.

Again, yes we are to enjoy the one we're married to physically yes. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, therefore when we're changed into a spiritual body there will be no need for such an action.


Cowboy, please read carefully what I wrote, I see the horizon just fine.

I was specifically addressing this paragraph that you wrote.
"Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only."


I did read what you said carefully. Reproduction would possibly become none existent if it wasn't pleasurable and or if we were not to enjoy making love for reproduction. So God tells us it is ok to feel the pleasure of our married spouse in the act of reproduction.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Thu 11/04/10 10:43 AM







No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.



Cowboy, do some research on that subject. Sex is pleasurable and a gift. There is no doubt in my mind that "sex for procreation only" is a doctrine of men...


Proverbs 5:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.


and


1 Corinthians 7:1-6 (King James Version)

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.






Yes that is sexual intercourse amongst a married couple. We are to enjoy one another in terms of marriage. But that again is a physical experience and a physical way to share passion with your loved one. There are many ways to share passion with your loved one other then "sexual intercourse". And the sexual intercourse way of sharing the passion will no longer be needed when we don't have "physical" bodies. The horizon is much more broad then you're seeing.

Again, yes we are to enjoy the one we're married to physically yes. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, therefore when we're changed into a spiritual body there will be no need for such an action.


Cowboy, please read carefully what I wrote, I see the horizon just fine.

I was specifically addressing this paragraph that you wrote.
"Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only."


I did read what you said carefully. Reproduction would possibly become none existent if it wasn't pleasurable and or if we were not to enjoy making love for reproduction. So God tells us it is ok to feel the pleasure of our married spouse in the act of reproduction.



Oh, so you changed your mind then?

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Thu 11/04/10 10:49 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 11/04/10 10:50 AM








No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.



Cowboy, do some research on that subject. Sex is pleasurable and a gift. There is no doubt in my mind that "sex for procreation only" is a doctrine of men...


Proverbs 5:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.


and


1 Corinthians 7:1-6 (King James Version)

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.






Yes that is sexual intercourse amongst a married couple. We are to enjoy one another in terms of marriage. But that again is a physical experience and a physical way to share passion with your loved one. There are many ways to share passion with your loved one other then "sexual intercourse". And the sexual intercourse way of sharing the passion will no longer be needed when we don't have "physical" bodies. The horizon is much more broad then you're seeing.

Again, yes we are to enjoy the one we're married to physically yes. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, therefore when we're changed into a spiritual body there will be no need for such an action.


Cowboy, please read carefully what I wrote, I see the horizon just fine.

I was specifically addressing this paragraph that you wrote.
"Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only."


I did read what you said carefully. Reproduction would possibly become none existent if it wasn't pleasurable and or if we were not to enjoy making love for reproduction. So God tells us it is ok to feel the pleasure of our married spouse in the act of reproduction.



Oh, so you changed your mind then?


No, nothing changed. Sex is still for reproduction. But of course we are to enjoy it in the process of reproduction for if it wasn't enjoyable there would be less reproducing and God told us to fill the earth.

And that is why it's to be done with your married spouse, and your married spouse alone. This creates families, not just people running around having sex to enjoy the physical pleasure of it.

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Thu 11/04/10 12:02 PM









No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.



Cowboy, do some research on that subject. Sex is pleasurable and a gift. There is no doubt in my mind that "sex for procreation only" is a doctrine of men...


Proverbs 5:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.


and


1 Corinthians 7:1-6 (King James Version)

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.






Yes that is sexual intercourse amongst a married couple. We are to enjoy one another in terms of marriage. But that again is a physical experience and a physical way to share passion with your loved one. There are many ways to share passion with your loved one other then "sexual intercourse". And the sexual intercourse way of sharing the passion will no longer be needed when we don't have "physical" bodies. The horizon is much more broad then you're seeing.

Again, yes we are to enjoy the one we're married to physically yes. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, therefore when we're changed into a spiritual body there will be no need for such an action.


Cowboy, please read carefully what I wrote, I see the horizon just fine.

I was specifically addressing this paragraph that you wrote.
"Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only."


I did read what you said carefully. Reproduction would possibly become none existent if it wasn't pleasurable and or if we were not to enjoy making love for reproduction. So God tells us it is ok to feel the pleasure of our married spouse in the act of reproduction.



Oh, so you changed your mind then?


No, nothing changed. Sex is still for reproduction. But of course we are to enjoy it in the process of reproduction for if it wasn't enjoyable there would be less reproducing and God told us to fill the earth.

And that is why it's to be done with your married spouse, and your married spouse alone. This creates families, not just people running around having sex to enjoy the physical pleasure of it.



Alrighty then...

If you won't believe me and research on your own, perhaps you can convince me that you are right?
Where in the Bible does it state that sex is for reproduction only?

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Thu 11/04/10 03:16 PM










No we will not have sex in heaven. There would be no need for such an action. Sex is for reproduction. In heaven the producing is finished. Sex for any other purpose falls into the category of lust. Desiring/lusting for the physical pleasure of sex. In which is sinful, therefore would not be included in heaven.


So in other words, any form of seeking pleasure would be considered to be lust. So there can be no pleasure in heaven because to indulge in pleasure would be sinful.


Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only.



Cowboy, do some research on that subject. Sex is pleasurable and a gift. There is no doubt in my mind that "sex for procreation only" is a doctrine of men...


Proverbs 5:18-19 (King James Version)

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.


and


1 Corinthians 7:1-6 (King James Version)

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.






Yes that is sexual intercourse amongst a married couple. We are to enjoy one another in terms of marriage. But that again is a physical experience and a physical way to share passion with your loved one. There are many ways to share passion with your loved one other then "sexual intercourse". And the sexual intercourse way of sharing the passion will no longer be needed when we don't have "physical" bodies. The horizon is much more broad then you're seeing.

Again, yes we are to enjoy the one we're married to physically yes. But nevertheless it is a physical pleasure, therefore when we're changed into a spiritual body there will be no need for such an action.


Cowboy, please read carefully what I wrote, I see the horizon just fine.

I was specifically addressing this paragraph that you wrote.
"Sex is pleasurable to the flesh, and the flesh only. And no we are not to have sex for the "pleasure". That's when it becomes lustful. Sex is for reproduction, and reproduction only."


I did read what you said carefully. Reproduction would possibly become none existent if it wasn't pleasurable and or if we were not to enjoy making love for reproduction. So God tells us it is ok to feel the pleasure of our married spouse in the act of reproduction.



Oh, so you changed your mind then?


No, nothing changed. Sex is still for reproduction. But of course we are to enjoy it in the process of reproduction for if it wasn't enjoyable there would be less reproducing and God told us to fill the earth.

And that is why it's to be done with your married spouse, and your married spouse alone. This creates families, not just people running around having sex to enjoy the physical pleasure of it.



Alrighty then...

If you won't believe me and research on your own, perhaps you can convince me that you are right?
Where in the Bible does it state that sex is for reproduction only?


“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

Matthew 5:27-30
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But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:16-21
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But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

Ephesians 5:3-5
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Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

Hebrews 13:4
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If needed for these verses to be translated into older translations eg., king james or other, this can be done if requested.