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Topic: independent ladies
curtiecurvy's photo
Thu 07/14/11 12:34 PM
Why so many independent women are single ? is it because they choose to be or are they simply struggling to find love ?

Totage's photo
Thu 07/14/11 12:40 PM
yes

curtiecurvy's photo
Thu 07/14/11 01:29 PM
yes wht totage? is it by choice or they r findng it difficult 2 huk up ?

Totage's photo
Thu 07/14/11 01:31 PM
Different people are single for different reasons.

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Thu 07/14/11 11:12 PM
I come across women claiming they're so independent that they don't need a man. So then the men end up thinking they're not wanted.

YourIceCreamMan's photo
Thu 07/14/11 11:20 PM

I come across women claiming they're so independent that they don't need a man. So then the men end up thinking they're not wanted.

^^^^^^
This.

A person's vibes are very clear and noticeable. If it is put out, it will be received.

- Josh

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/15/11 12:42 AM
its hard to go from independent to inter dependent

its harder to share what you have and what you want with another rather than having complete control of it yourself

,,I just think its hard to hand over the 'control' we have over our own life to a relationship with someone else and all the compromise and sharing it involves,,,

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Fri 07/15/11 03:54 AM
My lady friend believes she is in total control of her life right now. That it feels good to her, to eat go anywhere she wants. She is not going to allow, anyone to control her ever again. So she states that her Independence is the way she conducts her life, not how others thinks she should.

d24's photo
Fri 07/15/11 04:00 AM
I always thought Independence was being self sufficiant

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Fri 07/15/11 05:50 AM
I think some men just don't feel comfortable around independent women. They don't feel needed enough, therefor feel less manly.

YourIceCreamMan's photo
Fri 07/15/11 05:59 AM

I think some men just don't feel comfortable around independent women. They don't feel needed enough, therefor feel less manly.


LOL, so true! Nothing makes a man feel more manly than a woman "acting" like they need us. May it be squishing a big ugly spider (even though it may me a simple little daddy longleg), to taking the trash out. Not only is it what we enjoy doing for our ladies, but it certainly does help our confidence that we are fulfilling the little tiny bit of "needs" she may want from us. LOL

- Josh

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Fri 07/15/11 06:05 AM


I think some men just don't feel comfortable around independent women. They don't feel needed enough, therefor feel less manly.


LOL, so true! Nothing makes a man feel more manly than a woman "acting" like they need us. May it be squishing a big ugly spider (even though it may me a simple little daddy longleg), to taking the trash out. Not only is it what we enjoy doing for our ladies, but it certainly does help our confidence that we are fulfilling the little tiny bit of "needs" she may want from us. LOL

- Josh


Taking out the trash and getting rid of a spider really does it for you guys, huh? laugh

YourIceCreamMan's photo
Fri 07/15/11 06:18 AM



I think some men just don't feel comfortable around independent women. They don't feel needed enough, therefor feel less manly.


LOL, so true! Nothing makes a man feel more manly than a woman "acting" like they need us. May it be squishing a big ugly spider (even though it may me a simple little daddy longleg), to taking the trash out. Not only is it what we enjoy doing for our ladies, but it certainly does help our confidence that we are fulfilling the little tiny bit of "needs" she may want from us. LOL

- Josh


Taking out the trash and getting rid of a spider really does it for you guys, huh? laugh

LOL, you have no idea! See, instinctively, we are hunters and protectors. Well, these days this is not possible (and no. Most of us will not shop (although I do LOL)), so to kill a spider gives us such self worth... as long as "she" either is appreciated (or pretends to be), and we feel we have done our manly duties. LOL

Yes yes. It may seem petty. However, any little thing that may make we "men" feel more self worthy for the one we love, is completely worth it and boosts our self esteem. Perhaps I should bring this to bedroom talk... It would be the same as if you were to "fake" an organism. Perhaps the reason was for you to get the "deed" done sooner than you knew it would last, or to make your "man" feel as if he had done a great job. None the less, we feel as if we had done out "duty" as a man.

Boy, I hope this has made sense. I could elaborate even more if needed. LOL

- Josh

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Fri 07/15/11 06:37 AM
its hard to go from independent to inter dependent

its harder to share what you have and what you want with another rather than having complete control of it yourself

,,I just think its hard to hand over the 'control' we have over our own life to a relationship with someone else and all the compromise and sharing it involves,,,


Especially when you've had to fight so hard to become independent.

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Fri 07/15/11 06:43 AM


LOL, you have no idea! See, instinctively, we are hunters and protectors. Well, these days this is not possible (and no. Most of us will not shop (although I do LOL)), so to kill a spider gives us such self worth... as long as "she" either is appreciated (or pretends to be), and we feel we have done our manly duties. LOL

Yes yes. It may seem petty. However, any little thing that may make we "men" feel more self worthy for the one we love, is completely worth it and boosts our self esteem. Perhaps I should bring this to bedroom talk... It would be the same as if you were to "fake" an organism. Perhaps the reason was for you to get the "deed" done sooner than you knew it would last, or to make your "man" feel as if he had done a great job. None the less, we feel as if we had done out "duty" as a man.

Boy, I hope this has made sense. I could elaborate even more if needed. LOL

- Josh


Don't you see right through the pretending to be needed for those things, though? And I don't know any guy who is happy to take out the trash just to feel needed.

And you're cool with women faking orgasms? Really? If a woman has to fake it, something is wrong. :tongue:

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Fri 07/15/11 07:11 AM
Edited by 2KidsMom on Fri 07/15/11 07:11 AM




I think some men just don't feel comfortable around independent women. They don't feel needed enough, therefor feel less manly.


LOL, so true! Nothing makes a man feel more manly than a woman "acting" like they need us. May it be squishing a big ugly spider (even though it may me a simple little daddy longleg), to taking the trash out. Not only is it what we enjoy doing for our ladies, but it certainly does help our confidence that we are fulfilling the little tiny bit of "needs" she may want from us. LOL

- Josh


Taking out the trash and getting rid of a spider really does it for you guys, huh? laugh

LOL, you have no idea! See, instinctively, we are hunters and protectors. Well, these days this is not possible (and no. Most of us will not shop (although I do LOL)), so to kill a spider gives us such self worth... as long as "she" either is appreciated (or pretends to be), and we feel we have done our manly duties. LOL

Yes yes. It may seem petty. However, any little thing that may make we "men" feel more self worthy for the one we love, is completely worth it and boosts our self esteem. Perhaps I should bring this to bedroom talk... It would be the same as if you were to "fake" an organism. Perhaps the reason was for you to get the "deed" done sooner than you knew it would last, or to make your "man" feel as if he had done a great job. None the less, we feel as if we had done out "duty" as a man.

Boy, I hope this has made sense. I could elaborate even more if needed. LOL

- Josh



It does make sense.drinker
Kind of like I know I can open the jar of ?, but I bring it to you,(I might even loosen the lid alittle:wink:)flowers

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Fri 07/15/11 07:30 AM
Edited by Spidercmb on Fri 07/15/11 07:49 AM

Why so many independent women are single ? is it because they choose to be or are they simply struggling to find love ?



Top 5 needs of women

1 Affection Women often associate affection with security, comfort, protection and approval. When a man shows his wife affection, he’s sending subliminal messages to her that he’ll take care of her, stand by her and protect her.

2 Conversations When women have intimate conversations with their spouse, it reassures them and make them feel loved and supported.

3 Honesty and openness A women needs to be able to trust her husband completely. When a man doesn’t maintain an honest, open communication with his wife, he undermines her trust.

4 Financial support Many women marry for the financial security their spouse provides.

5 Family commitment A woman needs her husband to be a good father and to be committed to the family.


Top 5 needs of Men

1 Sexual fulfilment Most women can go without sex for months, but for men, it’s pure torture. In fact, they would probably do it all the time if they had their way.

2 Recreational companionship Even after marriage, couples should make an effort to involve themselves in their spouses’ activities.

3 An attractive spouse A man needs a wife who looks good to him.

4 Domestic support Most men like having domestic chores like cooking and cleaning done for them.

5 Admiration Men want their wives to be proud of them. So when you tell your husband that he’s wonderful, it motivates him to achieve more.


Independent women don't have the same needs as other women and they don't fulfill the needs of the man they are with. Independent women work best with Beta Males who get sexual stimulation from being treated poorly and having their needs ignored or enjoys a mother / son relationship.

YourIceCreamMan's photo
Fri 07/15/11 07:36 AM
Edited by YourIceCreamMan on Fri 07/15/11 07:46 AM



LOL, you have no idea! See, instinctively, we are hunters and protectors. Well, these days this is not possible (and no. Most of us will not shop (although I do LOL)), so to kill a spider gives us such self worth... as long as "she" either is appreciated (or pretends to be), and we feel we have done our manly duties. LOL

Yes yes. It may seem petty. However, any little thing that may make we "men" feel more self worthy for the one we love, is completely worth it and boosts our self esteem. Perhaps I should bring this to bedroom talk... It would be the same as if you were to "fake" an organism. Perhaps the reason was for you to get the "deed" done sooner than you knew it would last, or to make your "man" feel as if he had done a great job. None the less, we feel as if we had done out "duty" as a man.

Boy, I hope this has made sense. I could elaborate even more if needed. LOL

- Josh


Don't you see right through the pretending to be needed for those things, though? And I don't know any guy who is happy to take out the trash just to feel needed.


Perhaps. However, it is still JUST the feeling. OK, you KNOW your man loves you. However, you still enjoy when he brings home a nice bouquet of flowers, no? Same would go for the trash. I LOVE taking out the trash for a woman. Why? I KNOW she would never consider doing it, nor would I ever expect her to do so.



And you're cool with women faking orgasms? Really? If a woman has to fake it, something is wrong. :tongue:

Well, not that we are "supposed" to know in the first place. And yes, I believe if she has to, then there is something else within the relationship that may be a problem that needs to be dealt with. However, I am not speaking of first times here. I am merely speaking of an already developed relationship. You are absolutely correct that if/when a woman needs to, then there is something that needs discussion. I was just merely speaking of women who are within an already developed relationship whom may have other priorities to which they may need the "deed" done earlier than usual. I do agree with you, however this does still happen in EXTREMELY healthy relationships.

- Josh

YourIceCreamMan's photo
Fri 07/15/11 07:43 AM





I think some men just don't feel comfortable around independent women. They don't feel needed enough, therefor feel less manly.


LOL, so true! Nothing makes a man feel more manly than a woman "acting" like they need us. May it be squishing a big ugly spider (even though it may me a simple little daddy longleg), to taking the trash out. Not only is it what we enjoy doing for our ladies, but it certainly does help our confidence that we are fulfilling the little tiny bit of "needs" she may want from us. LOL

- Josh


Taking out the trash and getting rid of a spider really does it for you guys, huh? laugh

LOL, you have no idea! See, instinctively, we are hunters and protectors. Well, these days this is not possible (and no. Most of us will not shop (although I do LOL)), so to kill a spider gives us such self worth... as long as "she" either is appreciated (or pretends to be), and we feel we have done our manly duties. LOL

Yes yes. It may seem petty. However, any little thing that may make we "men" feel more self worthy for the one we love, is completely worth it and boosts our self esteem. Perhaps I should bring this to bedroom talk... It would be the same as if you were to "fake" an organism. Perhaps the reason was for you to get the "deed" done sooner than you knew it would last, or to make your "man" feel as if he had done a great job. None the less, we feel as if we had done out "duty" as a man.

Boy, I hope this has made sense. I could elaborate even more if needed. LOL

- Josh



It does make sense.drinker
Kind of like I know I can open the jar of ?, but I bring it to you,(I might even loosen the lid alittle:wink:)flowers

SO true (well, I don't know about loosening it up first LOL)! But yes, that was precisely my point. You are also capable of stomping on a spider as a woman. However (most) woman enjoy witnessing a man doing his "duties". LOL

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Fri 07/15/11 08:35 AM
I used to think that men were not attracted to "clinging vines", but it was that "clinging vine" my ex-husband fell in love with. I have learned that being capable and strong is a good thing as long as you can find that balance. Unfortunately, it took me a long time to realize that men "need" to be needed. Allowing a man to do what he does best, whether it is protect me from a snake or spider, repair a leaky faucet or change the oil in my car, or whatever he WANTS to do for me - I allow him to do it. Could I do it myself? Sure. But I have come to appreciate men for their abilities so much more, especially the fact that they want to do it because it comes from their heart.

Sorry for rambling - not sure if that even made sense flowerforyou

"If more men would stand up & become men, then more women would sit down & become ladies". I think some of us women (myself included) need to respect men and allow them to be men, while we sit down and allow ourselves to become ladies. JMHO :heart:

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