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July 2, 1946: The King David Hotel in Jerusalem was bombed. Killing 91 people Menachem Begin sic who planned the destruction of the King David Hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin (See picture at top of this page, flanked by pictures of the bombed King David Hotel). Ex prime minister, Shamir, was originally a member of the Jewish "terrorist" gang called Irgun, which was headed by none other than Menachem Begin. Shamir later moved over to the even more radical "Stern Gang," which committed many vicious atrocities. Shamir himself has defended the various assassinations committed by the Irgun and Stern gangs on the grounds that "it was the only way we could operate, because we were so small. So it was more efficient and more moral to go for selected targets." The selected moral targets in those early days of the founding of the state of Israel included bombing of the King David Hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/kd.html Targeted the British Military! At least get your Facts straight,if the "Sources" you use can't! The Hotel was a valid military target! You might look up the term,"Terrorism",and then inform yourself of the circumstances of that operation!  I did  Copy/Paste! Its time to make my appointment at the all you can eat turkey dinners. First stop at my mothers house, can she ever cook, everything home made and a return trip to my childhood home. Then I am off to my Gf Family the Lithuanian bunch. I hope her uncle the Jesuit priest is there to bless the meal so I can ask him about Lithuania and how well he lives on his 300 a month pension we have had a dispute about in the past. Thanks for the laughs the days table is set for good humor and good times. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Thu 11/24/11 08:26 AM
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July 2, 1946: The King David Hotel in Jerusalem was bombed. Killing 91 people Menachem Begin sic who planned the destruction of the King David Hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin (See picture at top of this page, flanked by pictures of the bombed King David Hotel). Ex prime minister, Shamir, was originally a member of the Jewish "terrorist" gang called Irgun, which was headed by none other than Menachem Begin. Shamir later moved over to the even more radical "Stern Gang," which committed many vicious atrocities. Shamir himself has defended the various assassinations committed by the Irgun and Stern gangs on the grounds that "it was the only way we could operate, because we were so small. So it was more efficient and more moral to go for selected targets." The selected moral targets in those early days of the founding of the state of Israel included bombing of the King David Hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/kd.html Targeted the British Military! At least get your Facts straight,if the "Sources" you use can't! The Hotel was a valid military target! You might look up the term,"Terrorism",and then inform yourself of the circumstances of that operation! I did Copy/Paste! Its time to make my appointment at the all you can eat turkey dinners. First stop at my mothers house, can she ever cook, everything home made and a return trip to my childhood home. Then I am off to my Gf Family the Lithuanian bunch. I hope her uncle the Jesuit priest is there to bless the meal so I can ask him about Lithuania and how well he lives on his 300 a month pension we have had a dispute about in the past. Thanks for the laughs the days table is set for good humor and good times. Maybe you can join that Jesuitpriest in that Monastery,then you cold live on 300 Smackers as well! And don't forget to laugh! It will soon be the only thing you have! Besides,Deir Yassin was a Battle! The Civilians got killed when the Arabfighters in their usual Flair started using them as Shields,and disguised themselves as Women,etc! All documented,except,of course on those anti-Semite-Sites you visit! Documented even in the US-Newspapers of the Timeperiod! http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf14.html#f Even annotated with sources! Read it while you stuff yourself with Bird! 
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The Israeli aid is uncalled for and unnecessary and they don't need it. Our budget is ridiculous I agree.   That too, but it is not as much as we give to Israel. Stop all aid to the Middle east. |
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The Israeli aid is uncalled for and unnecessary and they don't need it. Our budget is ridiculous I agree. That too, but it is not as much as we give to Israel. Stop all aid to the Middle east. But then you don't have a Deepwaterport and Storage Facilities in Gaza!
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Sorry I don't know what difference that makes.
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The Israeli aid is uncalled for and unnecessary and they don't need it. Our budget is ridiculous I agree. 2010 US Foreign aid to Israel was $3.175 Billion.... The Breakdown: $400 million went to Economic aid....Since Israel's economy is now stable this number has and will continue to decrease over a ten year period until it zeros out. As the money comes out of economic aid, it is put into military aid....US gets no "Dollar" return on economic aid... $2.775 Billion went to military aid.....75% of this MUST be spent on defense purchases from the US... Not only does Israel spend 75% of the total military aid we give them on US manufactured arms, they also test and develop weapon systems for us! Not simulated testing either!....This information is priceless and the results of the testing and development done by Israel and "given" to the US has, over time, tripled our arms sales which means it feeds our economy!.... Aside from the obvious reason Israel needs military aid, a PRIMARY purpose of aid to other countries is to create foreign markets for US products, most especially arms sales.... |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 11/25/11 09:04 AM
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All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet.
It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace. They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy. |
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All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet. It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace. They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy.  Go to Gaza,and tell that to those Wannabe-Ottomans,or even better,Tehran! |
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All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet. It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace. They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy. Go to Gaza,and tell that to those Wannabe-Ottomans,or even better,Tehran! Oh I think they know. All soldiers have to be paid. |
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All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet. It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace. They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy. It doesn't "prove" that at all...Predictable but flawed statement.... |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 11/25/11 11:16 AM
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All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet. It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace. They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy. It doesn't "prove" that at all...Predictable but flawed statement.... Not a flawed statement at all. (But according to Cowboy, there is no such thing as proof of anything anyway.) Proof is only a matter of belief as per the evidence. (Its proof enough for me.) Israel says they want peace, but they pissed too many of their neighbors off and so now what their neighbors want is revenge. For them, there is no trusting Israel now. Their claims of wanting peace is pretty much a lie. Should the Native Americans have trusted our government? Nope. Its the same thing. War is big business. |
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Edited by
5apphire
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Fri 11/25/11 11:16 AM
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All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet. It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace. They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy. It doesn't "prove" that at all...Predictable but flawed statement.... Not a flawed statement at all. (But according to Cowboy, there is no such thing as proof of anything anyway.) Proof is only a matter of belief as per the evidence. (Its proof enough for me.) Israel says they want peace, but they pissed too many of their neighbors off and so now what their neighbors want is revenge. There is no trusting Israel now. Their claims of wanting peace is pretty much a lie. War is big business. |
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All that proves is that without war, weapons, guns etc., the world economy is in the toilet. It really is all about money, and no world power really wants peace. They all pretend they want peace but that is the last thing they want. That would ruin the economy. It doesn't "prove" that at all...Predictable but flawed statement.... Not a flawed statement at all. (But according to Cowboy, there is no such thing as proof of anything anyway.) Proof is only a matter of belief as per the evidence. (Its proof enough for me.) Israel says they want peace, but they pissed too many of their neighbors off and so now what their neighbors want is revenge. There is no trusting Israel now. Their claims of wanting peace is pretty much a lie. War is big business. On the contrary, Israel has made far far more concessions than it should. If Israel existing pisses people off as you say, then tough. Israel has behaved far better than other countries that are at war. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 11/25/11 11:18 AM
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Israel was founded, in the beginning, on TERRORISM. Facts are facts. They are not to be trusted when they talk of peace.
Should the Native Americans have trusted our government? Nope. Its the same thing. |
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Israel was founded, in the beginning, on TERRORISM. Facts are facts. They are not to be trusted when they talk of peace. Should the Native Americans have trusted our government? Nope. Its the same thing. What counts is here and NOW. Israel has done everything possible to get peace, made every concession possible. Israel is still in a state of war with her neighbours. Israel goes over and beyond helping the citizens of her enemies even during a war. Quite honestly I think you are not informed of current events at all. |
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This is what Leigh posted:
2.775 Billion went to military aid.....75% of this MUST be spent on defense purchases from the US... How does that make sense? We give them money but they have to spend it on defense and they have to purchase it from the US. Big Business, arms and war. Not only does Israel spend 75% of the total military aid we give them on US manufactured arms, they also test and develop weapon systems for us! Not simulated testing either!.... Yep, they test it on their neighbors. They test it on real people.  This information is priceless and the results of the testing and development done by Israel and "given" to the US has, over time, tripled our arms sales which means it feeds our economy!.... War is Business. Proof. Aside from the obvious reason Israel needs military aid, a PRIMARY purpose of aid to other countries is to create foreign markets for US products, most especially arms sales.... War is Big Business. Proof. I rest my case. |
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Israel was founded, in the beginning, on TERRORISM. Facts are facts. They are not to be trusted when they talk of peace. Should the Native Americans have trusted our government? Nope. Its the same thing. What counts is here and NOW. Israel has done everything possible to get peace, made every concession possible. Israel is still in a state of war with her neighbours. Israel goes over and beyond helping the citizens of her enemies even during a war. Quite honestly I think you are not informed of current events at all. I don't think you are informed of current events at all. |
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Israel was founded, in the beginning, on TERRORISM. Facts are facts. They are not to be trusted when they talk of peace. Should the Native Americans have trusted our government? Nope. Its the same thing. What counts is here and NOW. Israel has done everything possible to get peace, made every concession possible. Israel is still in a state of war with her neighbours. Israel goes over and beyond helping the citizens of her enemies even during a war. Quite honestly I think you are not informed of current events at all. I don't think you are informed of current events at all. On the contrary I am very informed. What have I said that was incorrect then? |
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this:
"What counts is here and NOW. Israel has done everything possible to get peace, made every concession possible." Just not true, plain and simple. Its also a vague generalization that says nothing. |
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Why did Israel (and possibly America was involved) attack Egypt?
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