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Topic: The Cost of Israel to Americans
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Fri 11/25/11 12:22 PM






That is exactly the position Israel was in. It is so obvious. Israel was on the brink of being anialated in a day or so. Surely you must grasp that fact.



Why do you think that?
Did Egypt have weapons of Mass destruction?




Israel was surround by enemies ammasing at Israel's borders. They were threatening anialation because of course they knew they would win as Israel was hugely outnumbered. And yes, they did have weapons of mass destruction in the form of huge numbers of military personnel and unlimited amount of weapons.




Do you have any proof that enemies were ammassing at Israel's borders?

The USS Liberty was a spy ship that picked up all of the electronic and radio communications in that area.

If there were enemies "amassing" against Israel they would have known about it. There would have been positive proof of that from the USS Liberty Spy ship.

And yet, Israeli, attacked that ship.





Yes, there is proof - I posted proof and Conrad too. Do you not read links?




What kind of proof? I want real proof.

If a Spy ship did not detect this information I don't think you have any real proof.




What is a spy ship got to do with you being angry at Israel's pre-emptive strikes of Israel on Egypt. I thought that was what the topic was.

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Fri 11/25/11 12:24 PM





This is what Leigh posted:

2.775 Billion went to military aid.....75% of this MUST be spent on defense purchases from the US...


How does that make sense? We give them money but they have to spend it on defense and they have to purchase it from the US.

Big Business, arms and war.


Not only does Israel spend 75% of the total military aid we give them on US manufactured arms, they also test and develop weapon systems for us! Not simulated testing either!....


Yep, they test it on their neighbors. They test it on real people. :tongue:


This information is priceless and the results of the testing and development done by Israel and "given" to the US has, over time, tripled our arms sales which means it feeds our economy!....


War is Business. Proof.

Aside from the obvious reason Israel needs military aid, a PRIMARY purpose of aid to other countries is to create foreign markets for US products, most especially arms sales....



War is Big Business. Proof.


I rest my case.


War is a fact of life Jeannie....

How it makes sense is this..It's common knowledge that military aid to all countries is treated this way...This will really tick you off...In most cases the required amount is 100% of the military aid from US to other countries be spent in US...We gave Israel a 25% discount....rofl



I know that the U.S. is the super power of the world and that the main currency of the world is weapons, drugs, oil, gold, etc.

Yes, war is the Business of the world. It's a shame.

The CIA, Mossad, Black operations, globalization, the Elite bankers, own this world.

They play everyone against each other and they don't care about sending OUR children, YOUR children off to die in a war.

But nobody can tell me that we fight for our freedom, or that Israel is "just defending itself" or that kind of B.S.

Every country fights for its very survival in a world of war and big business.

What I hate are the lies and propaganda. They should just tell it like it is.


Oh Holy Paranoia!frown shocked


What do you think is paranoia?

This world is all about the business of war.


Nope,not the business of war,but you seeing a Conspiracy behind everything!

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Fri 11/25/11 12:25 PM

Where is the real proof that they were planning to invade?

Yes, I favor an Israel nonexistence. If they can't get along with their neighbors they should move.





Ahhhaaaaa - now we have it ladies and gentleman. Jenniebean would "favour Israel's nonexistence."

So that is it = in a nutshell. You don't grasp facts of history simply because you don't want to grasp these facts.

This thread is due for a lock-down methinks.

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Fri 11/25/11 12:25 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 11/25/11 12:28 PM
The Uss Liberty was attacked on June 8th.

They should not have been there, but if Israel and the US are such good friends, why were they not helping defend Israel and why did Israel attack the ship?

They claim it was a mistake. That is a lie.

This video has some clips of the attack on Egypt by Israel.

They were doing more than 'defending' themselves. They were gaining control of the area. They were invading.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

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Fri 11/25/11 12:27 PM


Where is the real proof that they were planning to invade?

Yes, I favor an Israel nonexistence. If they can't get along with their neighbors they should move.





Ahhhaaaaa - now we have it ladies and gentleman. Jenniebean would "favour Israel's nonexistence."

So that is it = in a nutshell. You don't grasp facts of history simply because you don't want to grasp these facts.

This thread is due for a lock-down methinks.


So what?

They invaded through terrorism from the beginning.



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Fri 11/25/11 12:29 PM





To claim that the six day war was a "miracle" is outrageous bad taste and a manipulation of religious fervor glorifying aggression, murder and war.

Its shameful propaganda.





That film is exactly how it is. My relatives there were all too aware believe me of the impending war. There was proof of an impending war not only in Israel media but worldwide. What do you think Israel should have done then with enemies ready for war and about to attack?





Defend themselves when they are attacked. NOT invade.

Do you know the difference between defending yourself and going down the street and bombing someone's house or shooting someone?

In Colorado we have the "make my day" law. If someone breaks into our house and we are in fear of our life, we can shoot them.

But we can't go to their house and shoot them.

Do you see the difference?

Defense is not attacking or invading because you are afraid what someone might do or because you know that your neighbor has weapons.

geeeze.



I can see you have no Idea!
So you say that Israel was supposed to have waited until the Arabforces in the Sinai and elsewhere invaded?
Do you have any Clue how big Israel was,and that the Lines would have been indefensible had they waited?
But that of course doesn't really matter to you,since you seem to favor the Idea of an Israel-Nonexistence over its existence!
That is the only way I can explain your Posts and attitude!



Where is the real proof that they were planning to invade?

Yes, I favor an Israel nonexistence. If they can't get along with their neighbors they should move.


so finally we have arrived at the Crux of the Matter!
Nonexistence for Israel!
No matter the Cost!
No matter what Lies it takes!


Maybe if you read some contemporary accounts of what happened then,you'd have your proof!
Unless you think that the Egyptian armies running from Sinai were Ghosts!
And the Syrian Shells from Golan Waterballoons!bigsmile

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Fri 11/25/11 12:30 PM


Where is the real proof that they were planning to invade?

Yes, I favor an Israel nonexistence. If they can't get along with their neighbors they should move.





Ahhhaaaaa - now we have it ladies and gentleman. Jenniebean would "favour Israel's nonexistence."

So that is it = in a nutshell. You don't grasp facts of history simply because you don't want to grasp these facts.

This thread is due for a lock-down methinks.


Now we see what your agenda really is.

I have not broken any forum rules whatsoever and you are wanting this thread locked?

I am only stating my personal opinion and feeling about the constant on-going war in the Middle East and the propaganda that supports its connection to religious fables.


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Fri 11/25/11 12:33 PM



Where is the real proof that they were planning to invade?

Yes, I favor an Israel nonexistence. If they can't get along with their neighbors they should move.





Ahhhaaaaa - now we have it ladies and gentleman. Jenniebean would "favour Israel's nonexistence."

So that is it = in a nutshell. You don't grasp facts of history simply because you don't want to grasp these facts.

This thread is due for a lock-down methinks.


Now we see what your agenda really is.

I have not broken any forum rules whatsoever and you are wanting this thread locked?

I am only stating my personal opinion and feeling about the constant on-going war in the Middle East and the propaganda that supports its connection to religious fables.


Personal Opinion ok,but for crying out loud,do some Research!

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Fri 11/25/11 12:34 PM
Tell the people in Israel they can all move to America.

Most of them have dual citizenship anyway.

If they are surrounded by people who hate them and they can't get along with their neighbors, they should just leave.

Tell them to move to America. They claim to control it anyway.

laugh laugh

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Fri 11/25/11 12:35 PM




Where is the real proof that they were planning to invade?

Yes, I favor an Israel nonexistence. If they can't get along with their neighbors they should move.





Ahhhaaaaa - now we have it ladies and gentleman. Jenniebean would "favour Israel's nonexistence."

So that is it = in a nutshell. You don't grasp facts of history simply because you don't want to grasp these facts.

This thread is due for a lock-down methinks.


Now we see what your agenda really is.

I have not broken any forum rules whatsoever and you are wanting this thread locked?

I am only stating my personal opinion and feeling about the constant on-going war in the Middle East and the propaganda that supports its connection to religious fables.


Personal Opinion ok,but for crying out loud,do some Research!


I have done research. On both sides of the issue.

Its not a pretty story.

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Fri 11/25/11 12:36 PM

Tell the people in Israel they can all move to America.

Most of them have dual citizenship anyway.

If they are surrounded by people who hate them and they can't get along with their neighbors, they should just leave.

Tell them to move to America. They claim to control it anyway.

laugh laugh
see what I mean?rofl

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Fri 11/25/11 12:39 PM
What shows bias is how some of the people on this thread single
out Israel over all of our other foreign aid programs for special
exclusion.

The foreign aid budget is 25 times larger than Israel's 4% portion
yet those who claim their issue is financial only talk about
Israeli 4% aid and ignore the other 96% of the money!

laugh

The issue is not money to these people. The issue is Jews and Israel.

It is both laughable and disgusting.
Just bigotry towards Israel and Jews.

Transparent and raw. And unmasked.

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Fri 11/25/11 12:39 PM


Tell the people in Israel they can all move to America.

Most of them have dual citizenship anyway.

If they are surrounded by people who hate them and they can't get along with their neighbors, they should just leave.

Tell them to move to America. They claim to control it anyway.

laugh laugh
see what I mean?rofl


Now why am I reminded of Helen Thomas here rofl

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Fri 11/25/11 12:41 PM
Edited by 5apphire on Fri 11/25/11 12:41 PM

What shows bias is how some of the people on this thread single
out Israel over all of our other foreign aid programs for special
exclusion.

The foreign aid budget is 25 times larger than Israel's 4% portion
yet those who claim their issue is financial only talk about
Israeli 4% aid and ignore the other 96% of the money!

laugh

The issue is not money to these people. The issue is Jews and Israel.

It is both laughable and disgusting.
Just bigotry towards Israel and Jews.

Transparent and raw. And unmasked.




Well said!

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Fri 11/25/11 12:42 PM

What shows bias is how some of the people on this thread single
out Israel over all of our other foreign aid programs for special
exclusion.

The foreign aid budget is 25 times larger than Israel's 4% portion
yet those who claim their issue is financial only talk about
Israeli 4% aid and ignore the other 96% of the money!

laugh

The issue is not money to these people. The issue is Jews and Israel.

It is both laughable and disgusting.
Just bigotry towards Israel and Jews.

Transparent and raw. And unmasked.




No, the issue is Zionism and Israel's aggressive policies.

Its not about Jews or Judaism.

Its about Israeli's and war crimes.






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Fri 11/25/11 12:45 PM


What shows bias is how some of the people on this thread single
out Israel over all of our other foreign aid programs for special
exclusion.

The foreign aid budget is 25 times larger than Israel's 4% portion
yet those who claim their issue is financial only talk about
Israeli 4% aid and ignore the other 96% of the money!

laugh

The issue is not money to these people. The issue is Jews and Israel.

It is both laughable and disgusting.
Just bigotry towards Israel and Jews.

Transparent and raw. And unmasked.




No, the issue is Zionism and Israel's aggressive policies.

Its not about Jews or Judaism.

Its about Israeli's and war crimes.






Like it was in your other Threads!Never about Jews,even when you mentioned Jews!

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Fri 11/25/11 12:46 PM
You claimed that you posted proof that all of Israel's enemies were amassing on the boarder and they were planning to annihilate Israel.

Please post your proof again.

I didn't see it.

Also, explain why the USS Liberty did not know about that, and if they did, why would Israel attack their own ally?

With unmarked planes?


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Fri 11/25/11 12:47 PM



What shows bias is how some of the people on this thread single
out Israel over all of our other foreign aid programs for special
exclusion.

The foreign aid budget is 25 times larger than Israel's 4% portion
yet those who claim their issue is financial only talk about
Israeli 4% aid and ignore the other 96% of the money!

laugh

The issue is not money to these people. The issue is Jews and Israel.

It is both laughable and disgusting.
Just bigotry towards Israel and Jews.

Transparent and raw. And unmasked.




No, the issue is Zionism and Israel's aggressive policies.

Its not about Jews or Judaism.

Its about Israeli's and war crimes.






Like it was in your other Threads!Never about Jews,even when you mentioned Jews!


You are the ones who mention Jews most of the time.

I don't believe there are any such race of people.

If you don't practice the Judaism religion, in my opinion, you are not a Jew.



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Fri 11/25/11 12:49 PM




What shows bias is how some of the people on this thread single
out Israel over all of our other foreign aid programs for special
exclusion.

The foreign aid budget is 25 times larger than Israel's 4% portion
yet those who claim their issue is financial only talk about
Israeli 4% aid and ignore the other 96% of the money!

laugh

The issue is not money to these people. The issue is Jews and Israel.

It is both laughable and disgusting.
Just bigotry towards Israel and Jews.

Transparent and raw. And unmasked.




No, the issue is Zionism and Israel's aggressive policies.

Its not about Jews or Judaism.

Its about Israeli's and war crimes.






Like it was in your other Threads!Never about Jews,even when you mentioned Jews!


You are the ones who mention Jews most of the time.

I don't believe there are any such race of people.

If you don't practice the Judaism religion, in my opinion, you are not a Jew.



your Opinion really doesn't count in that aspect!

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Fri 11/25/11 12:57 PM
Oh how this thread has gone onto every subject possible against Jews rather than stick to the topic rofl

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