Topic: Freedom of speech?
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Thu 12/01/11 06:38 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 12/01/11 06:46 PM


Leigh2154

In response to your post about what King said about anti-Zionism equals anti-anti-Semitism.

You (and he) can't be more wrong!!

It is that mistaken belief that is the greatest cause of Jewish persecution and hatred of Jews.

I do not hate Jews. I have no reason to hate Jews. I do not care what they believe or what God they worship. They are no different than me. I love that Jews don't go around trying to gain converts to their religion like Muslims and Christians do.

Zionism is a political movement. Most people today know that. Some don't.

Millions of Jews are anti-Zionist and say that it is a heresy and that Israel is illegitimate. What say you to them? That they are anti-Semitic? Ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. anyway. He was a womanizer and a dishonest man in my opinion.





Dr. King and I can't be more wrong is your opinion Jennie...your opinion does not make it fact....


It is not "my opinion" alone, and of course "my opinion" does not make anything into a fact.

Neither does a quote from Martin Luther King Jr.

Do some more research. Zionism is a political movement about Jews.

A Jew is not necessarily a Zionist. THIS IS A FACT, not an opinion.

Google this: jews against zionism

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

RADITIONAL JEWS ARE NOT ZIONISTS

Martin Luther King Jr. should stick to something he knows.
Of course back then, ignorance was rampant.









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Thu 12/01/11 07:01 PM



Leigh2154

In response to your post about what King said about anti-Zionism equals anti-anti-Semitism.

You (and he) can't be more wrong!!

It is that mistaken belief that is the greatest cause of Jewish persecution and hatred of Jews.

I do not hate Jews. I have no reason to hate Jews. I do not care what they believe or what God they worship. They are no different than me. I love that Jews don't go around trying to gain converts to their religion like Muslims and Christians do.

Zionism is a political movement. Most people today know that. Some don't.

Millions of Jews are anti-Zionist and say that it is a heresy and that Israel is illegitimate. What say you to them? That they are anti-Semitic? Ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. anyway. He was a womanizer and a dishonest man in my opinion.





Dr. King and I can't be more wrong is your opinion Jennie...your opinion does not make it fact....


It is not "my opinion" alone, and of course "my opinion" does not make anything into a fact.

Neither does a quote from Martin Luther King Jr.

Do some more research. Zionism is a political movement about Jews.

A Jew is not necessarily a Zionist. THIS IS A FACT, not an opinion.

Google this: jews against zionism

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

RADITIONAL JEWS ARE NOT ZIONISTS

Martin Luther King Jr. should stick to something he knows.
Of course back then, ignorance was rampant.











I am reading all the links you and everyone post...I am looking at both sides Jeannie...And just to be clear, it is the essence of Kings letter to his friend that I agree with...It is the "way" he expressed his feelings that I embrace......I am firm in my convictions too and I believe I am right...It is my opinion, it is to topic...

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Thu 12/01/11 08:02 PM

Leigh2154

In response to your post about what King said about anti-Zionism equals anti-anti-Semitism.

You (and he) can't be more wrong!!

It is that mistaken belief that is the greatest cause of Jewish persecution and hatred of Jews.

I do not hate Jews. I have no reason to hate Jews. I do not care what they believe or what God they worship. They are no different than me. I love that Jews don't go around trying to gain converts to their religion like Muslims and Christians do.

Zionism is a political movement. Most people today know that. Some don't.

Millions of Jews are anti-Zionist and say that it is a heresy and that Israel is illegitimate. What say you to them? That they are anti-Semitic? Ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. anyway. He was a womanizer and a dishonest man in my opinion.







I take this to mean you are a fan of no man,,,if an absence of dishonesty is a requirement...?

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Thu 12/01/11 08:08 PM


Leigh2154

In response to your post about what King said about anti-Zionism equals anti-anti-Semitism.

You (and he) can't be more wrong!!

It is that mistaken belief that is the greatest cause of Jewish persecution and hatred of Jews.

I do not hate Jews. I have no reason to hate Jews. I do not care what they believe or what God they worship. They are no different than me. I love that Jews don't go around trying to gain converts to their religion like Muslims and Christians do.

Zionism is a political movement. Most people today know that. Some don't.

Millions of Jews are anti-Zionist and say that it is a heresy and that Israel is illegitimate. What say you to them? That they are anti-Semitic? Ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. anyway. He was a womanizer and a dishonest man in my opinion.







I take this to mean you are a fan of no man,,,if an absence of dishonesty is a requirement...?


Being a hypocrite, that is what King was. As a preacher, he should not be a lecherous womanizer.

I feel he was a hypocrite, which makes him a phony and a fake.

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Thu 12/01/11 08:14 PM



Leigh2154

In response to your post about what King said about anti-Zionism equals anti-anti-Semitism.

You (and he) can't be more wrong!!

It is that mistaken belief that is the greatest cause of Jewish persecution and hatred of Jews.

I do not hate Jews. I have no reason to hate Jews. I do not care what they believe or what God they worship. They are no different than me. I love that Jews don't go around trying to gain converts to their religion like Muslims and Christians do.

Zionism is a political movement. Most people today know that. Some don't.

Millions of Jews are anti-Zionist and say that it is a heresy and that Israel is illegitimate. What say you to them? That they are anti-Semitic? Ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. anyway. He was a womanizer and a dishonest man in my opinion.







I take this to mean you are a fan of no man,,,if an absence of dishonesty is a requirement...?


Being a hypocrite, that is what King was. As a preacher, he should not be a lecherous womanizer.

I feel he was a hypocrite, which makes him a phony and a fake.


why do you believe he was a 'lecherous' womanizer? Just curious why you believe some things you read and not others.....

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Thu 12/01/11 08:36 PM




Leigh2154

In response to your post about what King said about anti-Zionism equals anti-anti-Semitism.

You (and he) can't be more wrong!!

It is that mistaken belief that is the greatest cause of Jewish persecution and hatred of Jews.

I do not hate Jews. I have no reason to hate Jews. I do not care what they believe or what God they worship. They are no different than me. I love that Jews don't go around trying to gain converts to their religion like Muslims and Christians do.

Zionism is a political movement. Most people today know that. Some don't.

Millions of Jews are anti-Zionist and say that it is a heresy and that Israel is illegitimate. What say you to them? That they are anti-Semitic? Ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. anyway. He was a womanizer and a dishonest man in my opinion.







I take this to mean you are a fan of no man,,,if an absence of dishonesty is a requirement...?


Being a hypocrite, that is what King was. As a preacher, he should not be a lecherous womanizer.

I feel he was a hypocrite, which makes him a phony and a fake.


why do you believe he was a 'lecherous' womanizer? Just curious why you believe some things you read and not others.....


Easy. I have a knack for it detecting B.S., spin, and propaganda. I study it.

I have an inner sense for the truth and sensing lies. It has to do with inner senses. (It feels like an inner B.S. detector.) It also develops with experience. It is like a bell going off in my mind that I can't ignore. It is like a sixth sense.

I also double check sources, look for motive and agenda. I don't just believe a single source.

(Lies coming from psychopaths are the most difficult.)




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Thu 12/01/11 08:41 PM





Leigh2154

In response to your post about what King said about anti-Zionism equals anti-anti-Semitism.

You (and he) can't be more wrong!!

It is that mistaken belief that is the greatest cause of Jewish persecution and hatred of Jews.

I do not hate Jews. I have no reason to hate Jews. I do not care what they believe or what God they worship. They are no different than me. I love that Jews don't go around trying to gain converts to their religion like Muslims and Christians do.

Zionism is a political movement. Most people today know that. Some don't.

Millions of Jews are anti-Zionist and say that it is a heresy and that Israel is illegitimate. What say you to them? That they are anti-Semitic? Ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. anyway. He was a womanizer and a dishonest man in my opinion.







I take this to mean you are a fan of no man,,,if an absence of dishonesty is a requirement...?


Being a hypocrite, that is what King was. As a preacher, he should not be a lecherous womanizer.

I feel he was a hypocrite, which makes him a phony and a fake.


why do you believe he was a 'lecherous' womanizer? Just curious why you believe some things you read and not others.....


Easy. I have a knack for it detecting B.S., spin, and propaganda. I study it.

I have an inner sense for the truth and sensing lies. It has to do with inner senses. (It feels like an inner B.S. detector.) It also develops with experience. It is like a bell going off in my mind that I can't ignore. It is like a sixth sense.

I also double check sources, look for motive and agenda. I don't just believe a single source.

(Lies coming from psychopaths are the most difficult.)







thats interesting,,,ok

I still think noone is perfect, I dont believe the hype about MLK being a womanizer, although Im sure he was a priest who struggled with doing the 'right' thing all the time, just as most people do

but I admire him for his efforts to unite people and encourage peace and promote equality,

the same way I would admire a great heart surgeon for those things they accomplished , regardless of what flaws they were bound to have as human beings



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Sun 12/04/11 10:51 AM
Martin Luther King also said that “The Greatest Exporter of Violence on the Planet is My Government”

That was of course before the phrase "The War On Terror" was invented.

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/04/11 10:55 AM

Martin Luther King also said that “The Greatest Exporter of Violence on the Planet is My Government”

That was of course before the phrase "The War On Terror" was invented.


Martin Luther King was right about alot of things and accomplished quite a bit, which shouldnt be discarded because of his sex life, whatever that may or may not have been.


but we put a high value on the flesh, I Guess it blinds us to all the other important things in the world,,,,,

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Sun 12/04/11 11:05 AM


Martin Luther King also said that “The Greatest Exporter of Violence on the Planet is My Government”

That was of course before the phrase "The War On Terror" was invented.


Martin Luther King was right about alot of things and accomplished quite a bit, which shouldnt be discarded because of his sex life, whatever that may or may not have been.


but we put a high value on the flesh, I Guess it blinds us to all the other important things in the world,,,,,


Kennedy was a womanizer ... allegedly...who cares

Martin Luther King was a womanizer .....allegedly..who cares

One cannot condone or try to justify these traits but these were two exceptional men.

They were also on the side of the majority.

The minority (The Company) will always look for scandal to gag and in the event of not being able to gag....they Assassinate.

"We won't get Fooled again" sang Roger Daltry (The Who) but we were and my generation are to blame....we settled for Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll.


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Sun 12/04/11 11:14 AM



Martin Luther King also said that “The Greatest Exporter of Violence on the Planet is My Government”

That was of course before the phrase "The War On Terror" was invented.


Martin Luther King was right about alot of things and accomplished quite a bit, which shouldnt be discarded because of his sex life, whatever that may or may not have been.


but we put a high value on the flesh, I Guess it blinds us to all the other important things in the world,,,,,


Kennedy was a womanizer ... allegedly...who cares

Martin Luther King was a womanizer .....allegedly..who cares

One cannot condone or try to justify these traits but these were two exceptional men.

They were also on the side of the majority.

The minority (The Company) will always look for scandal to gag and in the event of not being able to gag....they Assassinate.

"We won't get Fooled again" sang Roger Daltry (The Who) but we were and my generation are to blame....we settled for Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll.





Yes, but for our silly weaknesses we would squash them like the bugs they are. (THE COMPANY)

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Sun 12/04/11 11:43 AM



Leigh2154

In response to your post about what King said about anti-Zionism equals anti-anti-Semitism.

You (and he) can't be more wrong!!

It is that mistaken belief that is the greatest cause of Jewish persecution and hatred of Jews.

I do not hate Jews. I have no reason to hate Jews. I do not care what they believe or what God they worship. They are no different than me. I love that Jews don't go around trying to gain converts to their religion like Muslims and Christians do.

Zionism is a political movement. Most people today know that. Some don't.

Millions of Jews are anti-Zionist and say that it is a heresy and that Israel is illegitimate. What say you to them? That they are anti-Semitic? Ridiculous.

I am not a fan of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. anyway. He was a womanizer and a dishonest man in my opinion.





Dr. King and I can't be more wrong is your opinion Jennie...your opinion does not make it fact....


It is not "my opinion" alone, and of course "my opinion" does not make anything into a fact.

Neither does a quote from Martin Luther King Jr.

Do some more research. Zionism is a political movement about Jews.

A Jew is not necessarily a Zionist. THIS IS A FACT, not an opinion.

Google this: jews against zionism

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

RADITIONAL JEWS ARE NOT ZIONISTS

Martin Luther King Jr. should stick to something he knows.
Of course back then, ignorance was rampant.









how come that all of your Threads sooner or later become a Rant against Israel and the Jews?

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Sun 12/04/11 12:43 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 12/04/11 12:49 PM
I never rant. I love Jews.

I appose political practices and governments and religions that involve human rights violations.

Zionism is a political movement that works tirelessly to scare, force, seduce and bribe Jews to move to Israel.

I think Jews should live among us. I think native Americans should live among us. I think all races and religions should live together and get to know each other and become friends.

I appose segregation. I don't think Indian reservations were anything more than concentration camps and holding areas.

Then someone wanted to even build a wall around Israel. What does that look like?

It looks like a concentration camp that restricts and controls all who might want to enter or leave Israel.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want to live in a small country surrounded by a wall controlled by Zionist.

I want to warn all Jews not to go to Israel. It is a death trap. It is surrounded by people who hate them.

I wouldn't go there.









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Sun 12/04/11 05:24 PM

I never rant. I love Jews.

I appose political practices and governments and religions that involve human rights violations.

Zionism is a political movement that works tirelessly to scare, force, seduce and bribe Jews to move to Israel.

I think Jews should live among us. I think native Americans should live among us. I think all races and religions should live together and get to know each other and become friends.

I appose segregation. I don't think Indian reservations were anything more than concentration camps and holding areas.

Then someone wanted to even build a wall around Israel. What does that look like?

It looks like a concentration camp that restricts and controls all who might want to enter or leave Israel.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want to live in a small country surrounded by a wall controlled by Zionist.

I want to warn all Jews not to go to Israel. It is a death trap. It is surrounded by people who hate them.

I wouldn't go there.


You love Jews but believe in the most antisemitic jew-hating Nazi
propaganda (The Protocols of the Elders of Zion)!! Despite the fact
that it was pointed out to you that it is Nazi propaganda and also
that it has been proven to be false almost 100 years ago!

Oh Come now!

laugh


Optomistic69's photo
Sun 12/04/11 05:49 PM

I never rant. I love Jews.

I appose political practices and governments and religions that involve human rights violations.

Zionism is a political movement that works tirelessly to scare, force, seduce and bribe Jews to move to Israel.

I think Jews should live among us. I think native Americans should live among us. I think all races and religions should live together and get to know each other and become friends.

I appose segregation. I don't think Indian reservations were anything more than concentration camps and holding areas.

Then someone wanted to even build a wall around Israel. What does that look like?

It looks like a concentration camp that restricts and controls all who might want to enter or leave Israel.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want to live in a small country surrounded by a wall controlled by Zionist.

I want to warn all Jews not to go to Israel. It is a death trap. It is surrounded by people who hate them.

I wouldn't go there.












Sounds like you do not hate anybody JB.



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Sun 12/04/11 06:55 PM


Jeanniebean,

You are confusing Freedom of Speech with Freedom FROM Speech. You have the right to say racist, ignorant things and the other Mingle2ers have the right to point out how stupid your beliefs are.


I'm glad I have the right to do that but I never say racists or ignorant things.

I am the most rational non-racist person on Mingle.


you forgot most self deluded too...

mightymoe's photo
Sun 12/04/11 06:56 PM



Martin Luther King also said that “The Greatest Exporter of Violence on the Planet is My Government”

That was of course before the phrase "The War On Terror" was invented.


Martin Luther King was right about alot of things and accomplished quite a bit, which shouldnt be discarded because of his sex life, whatever that may or may not have been.


but we put a high value on the flesh, I Guess it blinds us to all the other important things in the world,,,,,


Kennedy was a womanizer ... allegedly...who cares

Martin Luther King was a womanizer .....allegedly..who cares

One cannot condone or try to justify these traits but these were two exceptional men.

They were also on the side of the majority.

The minority (The Company) will always look for scandal to gag and in the event of not being able to gag....they Assassinate.

"We won't get Fooled again" sang Roger Daltry (The Who) but we were and my generation are to blame....we settled for Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll.




apparently they care when Cain does it...

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Sun 12/04/11 07:00 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 12/04/11 07:02 PM


I never rant. I love Jews.

I appose political practices and governments and religions that involve human rights violations.

Zionism is a political movement that works tirelessly to scare, force, seduce and bribe Jews to move to Israel.

I think Jews should live among us. I think native Americans should live among us. I think all races and religions should live together and get to know each other and become friends.

I appose segregation. I don't think Indian reservations were anything more than concentration camps and holding areas.

Then someone wanted to even build a wall around Israel. What does that look like?

It looks like a concentration camp that restricts and controls all who might want to enter or leave Israel.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want to live in a small country surrounded by a wall controlled by Zionist.

I want to warn all Jews not to go to Israel. It is a death trap. It is surrounded by people who hate them.

I wouldn't go there.


You love Jews but believe in the most antisemitic jew-hating Nazi
propaganda (The Protocols of the Elders of Zion)!! Despite the fact that it was pointed out to you that it is Nazi propaganda and also that it has been proven to be false almost 100 years ago!

Oh Come now!

laugh





If you look at how our own congress is totally corrupt and talk to congressmen who have been threatened and bribed and extorted to do the bidding of THE COMPANY you will see that what ever you think of the Protocols, they are being followed to the letter by who ever wrote them.

Therefore, I am not willing to agree that they are not authentic.

I'm not sure who wrote them but I do know that someone is following the exact instructions laid out in the protocols to gain financial control over the governments and the money of the world.

Take a listen to this news: TREASON IN THE SENATE

http://rtr.org/videos/2/35530/treason-in-the-us-senate

Anyone can be abducted by the military if they are just a suspect.

Corruption in the Congress is complete and total:
A couple of videos worth watching from 60 Minutes.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/04/lobbyists-stealing-government.aspx?e_cid=20111204_SNL_Art_1

The protocols are plagiarized material. Someone wrote them and someone is following them to the letter.

Our country is fast becoming another country like Germany who will soon be totally corrupt and have total power to do anything it wants to its citizens who will have no rights.

Don't waste your time picking on me with your name calling bull **** while this country is totally taken over by the evil element of THE COMPANY.

You have a lot more to worry about than just Zionism and whether or not an anti-Zionist is a "Jew hater." There is the New World Order on the horizon, and it's goal is a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, ONE WORLD POLICE FORCE AND the PROMOTION OF ONE RELIGION ONLY.

Wake the freak up and stop worrying about what I believe.

If you are in favor of moving all Jews to Israel then you are in favor of segregation.

I advise all Jews ..... don't go! Israel is a ticking time bomb and a death trap. Its a giant concentration camp for Jews surrounded by its enemies.











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Mon 12/05/11 07:11 PM



I never rant. I love Jews.

I appose political practices and governments and religions that involve human rights violations.

Zionism is a political movement that works tirelessly to scare, force, seduce and bribe Jews to move to Israel.

I think Jews should live among us. I think native Americans should live among us. I think all races and religions should live together and get to know each other and become friends.

I appose segregation. I don't think Indian reservations were anything more than concentration camps and holding areas.

Then someone wanted to even build a wall around Israel. What does that look like?

It looks like a concentration camp that restricts and controls all who might want to enter or leave Israel.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I would want to live in a small country surrounded by a wall controlled by Zionist.

I want to warn all Jews not to go to Israel. It is a death trap. It is surrounded by people who hate them.

I wouldn't go there.


You love Jews but believe in the most antisemitic jew-hating Nazi
propaganda (The Protocols of the Elders of Zion)!! Despite the fact that it was pointed out to you that it is Nazi propaganda and also that it has been proven to be false almost 100 years ago!

Oh Come now!

laugh





You have a lot more to worry about than just Zionism and whether or not an anti-Zionist is a "Jew hater." There is the New World Order on the horizon, and it's goal is a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, ONE WORLD POLICE FORCE AND the PROMOTION OF ONE RELIGION ONLY.



Which religion is the one which is supposedly promoted in this
fictional New World Order?

laugh

New-World-Orderanism?

laugh

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Mon 12/05/11 09:16 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 12/05/11 09:16 PM
It will be a new religion. Not one of the familiar ones.