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Topic: The Problem With Evolution?
Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:15 AM
"Time" never started, nor does it end. Always has been and always will be. God is the beginning, for he is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. There is no before God and no after God. right..time never started.....do your clock know this? ..a clock only does what it is programmed to do. Although worded horrid; the idea or concept of time, did not nor will ever exist in the eyes of God, because he does not age. It was man who created time when faced with the concept that one 'day' our lives will now end. We created time. Humans created time.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 02/09/12 10:16 AM
Time began when Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. so the six days of creation don't count? Humans deemed those six 'days' as 'days'. Again, a day to us, is not a day to God. I'm going by what is in the bible ...the bible stated 6 days...then it's six days if you guys are not going to stick to what is in the bible....then all you are doing is preaching your own brand of religion

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:17 AM
"Time" never started, nor does it end. Always has been and always will be. God is the beginning, for he is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. There is no before God and no after God. right..time never started.....do your clock know this? My clock measure my time. I have a starting point and possible ending point. God does not. He always has been and always will be. I'm going by the bible...apparently something that you as a Christian refuse to do...and according to the bible time started at Genesis 1:1 ....and the six days of creation is proof of this and points to how old God and Time are The Bible does not, anywhere, state the 'Birth of God'.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 02/09/12 10:18 AM
Time began when Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. so the six days of creation don't count? Humans deemed those six 'days' as 'days'. Again, a day to us, is not a day to God. I'm going by what is in the bible ...the bible stated 6 days...then it's six days if you guys are not going to stick to what is in the bible....then all you are doing is preaching your own brand of religion Yes the WORLD was created in 6 days. Does not state that God was created in those 6 days.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:18 AM
Time began when Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. so the six days of creation don't count? Humans deemed those six 'days' as 'days'. Again, a day to us, is not a day to God. I'm going by what is in the bible ...the bible stated 6 days...then it's six days if you guys are not going to stick to what is in the bible....then all you are doing is preaching your own brand of religion Dude, I'm not even religious. lol However, this is another example of you doing what I always whine about. Taking 'one' word, in this case 'day', and clenching to its very definition. While others you completely ignore. "A day to us is not a day to God." Ask a priest. He'll tell you the same.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 02/09/12 10:22 AM
Time began when Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. so the six days of creation don't count? Humans deemed those six 'days' as 'days'. Again, a day to us, is not a day to God. I'm going by what is in the bible ...the bible stated 6 days...then it's six days if you guys are not going to stick to what is in the bible....then all you are doing is preaching your own brand of religion Dude, I'm not even religious. lol However, this is another example of you doing what I always whine about. Taking 'one' word, in this case 'day', and clenching to its very definition. While others you completely ignore. "A day to us is not a day to God." Ask a priest. He'll tell you the same. This very well may be true. Does not state "after the first 24 hours God created...." Just says 1 day and who's to say how long or short this "day" was.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 02/09/12 10:23 AM
Time began when Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. so the six days of creation don't count? Humans deemed those six 'days' as 'days'. Again, a day to us, is not a day to God. I'm going by what is in the bible ...the bible stated 6 days...then it's six days if you guys are not going to stick to what is in the bible....then all you are doing is preaching your own brand of religion Dude, I'm not even religious. lol However, this is another example of you doing what I always whine about. Taking 'one' word, in this case 'day', and clenching to its very definition. While others you completely ignore. "A day to us is not a day to God." Ask a priest. He'll tell you the same. I'm not religious either...but if we were debating about leperchuans I would expect you to not dispute that they leave pots of Gold under the rainbow

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 02/09/12 10:25 AM
This very well may be true. Does not state "after the first 24 hours God created...." Just says 1 day and who's to say how long or short this "day" was. but it does state 6 days if this had anything to do with the money in your paychecks...I bet you guys would do you damn best to figure it out then

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:29 AM
Time began when Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. so the six days of creation don't count? Humans deemed those six 'days' as 'days'. Again, a day to us, is not a day to God. I'm going by what is in the bible ...the bible stated 6 days...then it's six days if you guys are not going to stick to what is in the bible....then all you are doing is preaching your own brand of religion Dude, I'm not even religious. lol However, this is another example of you doing what I always whine about. Taking 'one' word, in this case 'day', and clenching to its very definition. While others you completely ignore. "A day to us is not a day to God." Ask a priest. He'll tell you the same. I'm not religious either...but if we were debating about leperchuans I would expect you to not dispute that they leave pots of Gold under the rainbow Really? :O You're not religious?!? Man, I so thought you were after Potato and God comparison, lol. What you are disputing, I was disputing as a kid going through confirmation.. Time, in the sense of human terms; began only when man created it. Once we did such, it was then we tried to place a time frame on the existences prior to our development of time. We define a day as the sun rises and the sun setting. The midway point between the highest point of the sun, and the highest point of the moon, created noon and midnight respectively. Therefore, we grew to know this time reference as a 'day'. However, God created the entire universe; which means he can travel through what we call 'space' as he pleases. Therefore, if you travel through space, outside of a clock or watch, time itself would not exist, because the sun would never rise or set, it would just burn eternal. Therefore, as I tried to state, a day to us may not be a day to him; especially when you are larger and immortal and can travel anywhere you so desire.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 02/09/12 10:30 AM
This very well may be true. Does not state "after the first 24 hours God created...." Just says 1 day and who's to say how long or short this "day" was. but it does state 6 days if this had anything to do with the money in your paychecks...I bet you guys would do you damn best to figure it out then Yes again you're comparing apples and oranges. The check would be according to OUR time, would have nothing to do with God's time. Who's to say the day God promoted for the first creation was 24 hours long. Could have been a million years long. The first definition of day by the webster dictionary - a : the time of light between one night and the next So who's to say when the sun came up or went down when God was creating the Earth? Who's to say it was a 24 hour time span?

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:31 AM
This very well may be true. Does not state "after the first 24 hours God created...." Just says 1 day and who's to say how long or short this "day" was. but it does state 6 days if this had anything to do with the money in your paychecks...I bet you guys would do you damn best to figure it out then UGH! Humanizing it again! If God sees one day as 5,000 years. ..that sure as crap doesn't mean I'm waiting 5k years to get my check, because MAN created days, NOT God. Therefore, our paychecks have absolutely nothing to do with God or this debate on time.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 02/09/12 10:32 AM
Time began when Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. so the six days of creation don't count? Humans deemed those six 'days' as 'days'. Again, a day to us, is not a day to God. I'm going by what is in the bible ...the bible stated 6 days...then it's six days if you guys are not going to stick to what is in the bible....then all you are doing is preaching your own brand of religion Dude, I'm not even religious. lol However, this is another example of you doing what I always whine about. Taking 'one' word, in this case 'day', and clenching to its very definition. While others you completely ignore. "A day to us is not a day to God." Ask a priest. He'll tell you the same. I'm not religious either...but if we were debating about leperchuans I would expect you to not dispute that they leave pots of Gold under the rainbow Really? :O You're not religious?!? Man, I so thought you were after Potato and God comparison, lol. What you are disputing, I was disputing as a kid going through confirmation.. Time, in the sense of human terms; began only when man created it. Once we did such, it was then we tried to place a time frame on the existences prior to our development of time. We define a day as the sun rises and the sun setting. The midway point between the highest point of the sun, and the highest point of the moon, created noon and midnight respectively. Therefore, we grew to know this time reference as a 'day'. However, God created the entire universe; which means he can travel through what we call 'space' as he pleases. Therefore, if you travel through space, outside of a clock or watch, time itself would not exist, because the sun would never rise or set, it would just burn eternal. Therefore, as I tried to state, a day to us may not be a day to him; especially when you are larger and immortal and can travel anywhere you so desire. look Carl Sagan...we are talking about religious time not Star Trek

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 02/09/12 10:32 AM
This very well may be true. Does not state "after the first 24 hours God created...." Just says 1 day and who's to say how long or short this "day" was. but it does state 6 days if this had anything to do with the money in your paychecks...I bet you guys would do you damn best to figure it out then Yes again you're comparing apples and oranges. The check would be according to OUR time, would have nothing to do with God's time. Who's to say the day God promoted for the first creation was 24 hours long. Could have been a million years long. The first definition of day by the webster dictionary - a : the time of light between one night and the next So who's to say when the sun came up or went down when God was creating the Earth? Who's to say it was a 24 hour time span? this I know for the bible tells me so

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:33 AM
This very well may be true. Does not state "after the first 24 hours God created...." Just says 1 day and who's to say how long or short this "day" was. but it does state 6 days if this had anything to do with the money in your paychecks...I bet you guys would do you damn best to figure it out then Yes again you're comparing apples and oranges. The check would be according to OUR time, would have nothing to do with God's time. Who's to say the day God promoted for the first creation was 24 hours long. Could have been a million years long. The first definition of day by the webster dictionary - a : the time of light between one night and the next So who's to say when the sun came up or went down when God was creating the Earth? Who's to say it was a 24 hour time span? ..why do people always say that? 'comparing apples to oranges'. Outside of color, why can't you compare? It's like comparing a white and a black person. They are both fruits. They are both humans. ..as for the rest of this, that's what I just said.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:34 AM
Time began when Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. so the six days of creation don't count? Humans deemed those six 'days' as 'days'. Again, a day to us, is not a day to God. I'm going by what is in the bible ...the bible stated 6 days...then it's six days if you guys are not going to stick to what is in the bible....then all you are doing is preaching your own brand of religion Dude, I'm not even religious. lol However, this is another example of you doing what I always whine about. Taking 'one' word, in this case 'day', and clenching to its very definition. While others you completely ignore. "A day to us is not a day to God." Ask a priest. He'll tell you the same. I'm not religious either...but if we were debating about leperchuans I would expect you to not dispute that they leave pots of Gold under the rainbow Really? :O You're not religious?!? Man, I so thought you were after Potato and God comparison, lol. What you are disputing, I was disputing as a kid going through confirmation.. Time, in the sense of human terms; began only when man created it. Once we did such, it was then we tried to place a time frame on the existences prior to our development of time. We define a day as the sun rises and the sun setting. The midway point between the highest point of the sun, and the highest point of the moon, created noon and midnight respectively. Therefore, we grew to know this time reference as a 'day'. However, God created the entire universe; which means he can travel through what we call 'space' as he pleases. Therefore, if you travel through space, outside of a clock or watch, time itself would not exist, because the sun would never rise or set, it would just burn eternal. Therefore, as I tried to state, a day to us may not be a day to him; especially when you are larger and immortal and can travel anywhere you so desire. look Carl Sagan...we are talking about religious time not Star Trek So am I. "God created the universe." Duh.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:35 AM
This very well may be true. Does not state "after the first 24 hours God created...." Just says 1 day and who's to say how long or short this "day" was. but it does state 6 days if this had anything to do with the money in your paychecks...I bet you guys would do you damn best to figure it out then Yes again you're comparing apples and oranges. The check would be according to OUR time, would have nothing to do with God's time. Who's to say the day God promoted for the first creation was 24 hours long. Could have been a million years long. The first definition of day by the webster dictionary - a : the time of light between one night and the next So who's to say when the sun came up or went down when God was creating the Earth? Who's to say it was a 24 hour time span? this I know for the bible tells me so No, obviously you do not. The bible says day, but it does not define day. So, what's next hm? From arms and legs, to time, to what now?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 02/09/12 10:35 AM
If God sees one day as 5,000 years. then according to Carl Sagan God would be stuck in a time warp but we are going by the bible....Genesis 1:1 ..states "In The Beginning" ...nothing about 5,000 years

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Thu 02/09/12 10:37 AM
No, obviously you do not. The bible says day, but it does not define day. So, what's next hm? From arms and legs, to time, to what now? if the Bible states "In The Beginning"...that should be a clue that it's the first day

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:38 AM
If God sees one day as 5,000 years. then according to Carl Sagan God would be stuck in a time warp but we are going by the bible....Genesis 1:1 ..states "In The Beginning" ...nothing about 5,000 years ..there you go, reading what you want again. How is that a time warp? You have no sun set to differentiate one day from the next. Earth doesn't exist yet, therefore, one day to us, is not necessarily one day to him. Just like if you fly to one planet and return and you believe it only took you 20 minutes, if actually took you ten years. Therefore, his definition for day would, could, and is different.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Thu 02/09/12 10:39 AM
No, obviously you do not. The bible says day, but it does not define day. So, what's next hm? From arms and legs, to time, to what now? if the Bible states "In The Beginning"...that should be a clue that it's the first day ..first day.. Of what? Keep reading.. 'Earth'. If you go to Saturn, and sit on the planet. You age 5x faster. Sit somewhere else, different planet, you'll age differently. Get the point yet? Why are there days different? Oh, gee I wonder.