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Topic: Recovery from religion...
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:53 PM
since religionists do so, yes Do so what?

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:55 PM
since religionists do so, yes Do so what? create 'timelines'

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:57 PM
no, they say time lines don`t exist, because it cannot be known

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 03/30/12 11:58 PM
since religionists do so, yes Do so what? create 'timelines' create 'timelines'? What are you talking about?

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Fri 03/30/12 11:59 PM Edited by Sloe00 on Sat 03/31/12 12:00 AM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter. so, do you believe that it is possible that adam and eve were created at the same time Lucifer was?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/31/12 12:05 AM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter. so, do you believe that it is possible that adam and eve were created at the same time Lucifer was? Lucifer was created long while before Adam and Eve. Lucifer was God's arch angel. He was the most beautiful, strongest angel God had. So great, he grew an ego and thought himself greater then God. Thus the reason he was booted from Heaven.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:09 AM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter. so, do you believe that it is possible that adam and eve were created at the same time Lucifer was? All were brought into life simultaneously???? even if that was so, lucifer was an angel once? given to gifts? yes. adam and eve were not supposedly created to be angels, hence, LACKING SOMETHING ANGELS HAD.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:10 AM Edited by Sloe00 on Sat 03/31/12 12:12 AM
hence, had the lower hand since any beginning AMEN,,,'GOD WANTED PLAYTHINGS'

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/31/12 12:13 AM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter. so, do you believe that it is possible that adam and eve were created at the same time Lucifer was? All were brought into life simultaneously???? even if that was so, lucifer was an angel once? given to gifts? yes. adam and eve were not supposedly created to be angels, hence, LACKING SOMETHING ANGELS HAD. Angels and "people" are two different existences, two different types of beings all together. And no we weren't all brought into existence simotaneously. God took steps in his creation. Thus the 6 days it took him to create the world and that which lays thereon. No Adam and Eve were not made to be angels, or they would have been made angels and not man and woman of this planet. And no, not lacking something angels had, just again two different types of beings.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:14 AM
because he is omnipotent and saw this outcome.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/31/12 12:15 AM
hence, had the lower hand since any beginning AMEN,,,'GOD WANTED PLAYTHINGS' Can't say myself as EXACTLY what God wanted, as I am not God. But from what it seems, God wanted more children. He wanted more family. More love shared, and so much more. How would it have been because he wanted "playthings"? Would be so much easier to make "playthings" just that, and without free will, without real thought so to speak. Was created just for that, "playthings".

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 03/31/12 12:16 AM
because he is omnipotent and saw this outcome. ????

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:18 AM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter. so, do you believe that it is possible that adam and eve were created at the same time Lucifer was? All were brought into life simultaneously???? even if that was so, lucifer was an angel once? given to gifts? yes. adam and eve were not supposedly created to be angels, hence, LACKING SOMETHING ANGELS HAD. Angels and "people" are two different existences, two different types of beings all together. And no we weren't all brought into existence simotaneously. God took steps in his creation. Thus the 6 days it took him to create the world and that which lays thereon. No Adam and Eve were not made to be angels, or they would have been made angels and not man and woman of this planet. And no, not lacking something angels had, just again two different types of beings. so why bring together Satan and adam and eve?????

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:21 AM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter. so, do you believe that it is possible that adam and eve were created at the same time Lucifer was? Lucifer was created long while before Adam and Eve. Lucifer was God's arch angel. He was the most beautiful, strongest angel God had. So great, he grew an ego and thought himself greater then God. Thus the reason he was booted from Heaven. on this account, make no mistake. i have been familiar with the bible for years

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:24 AM
because he is omnipotent and saw this outcome. ???? god put the whole scenario in place and what?? was clueless as to any outcome?

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:26 AM
hence, had the lower hand since any beginning AMEN,,,'GOD WANTED PLAYTHINGS' Can't say myself as EXACTLY what God wanted, as I am not God. But from what it seems, God wanted more children. He wanted more family. More love shared, and so much more. How would it have been because he wanted "playthings"? Would be so much easier to make "playthings" just that, and without free will, without real thought so to speak. Was created just for that, "playthings". he did ANGELS,,,this we can only suppose.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:28 AM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter. so, do you believe that it is possible that adam and eve were created at the same time Lucifer was? All were brought into life simultaneously???? even if that was so, lucifer was an angel once? given to gifts? yes. adam and eve were not supposedly created to be angels, hence, LACKING SOMETHING ANGELS HAD. Angels and "people" are two different existences, two different types of beings all together. And no we weren't all brought into existence simotaneously. God took steps in his creation. Thus the 6 days it took him to create the world and that which lays thereon. No Adam and Eve were not made to be angels, or they would have been made angels and not man and woman of this planet. And no, not lacking something angels had, just again two different types of beings. a reinforcement of my statement.

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:33 AM Edited by Sloe00 on Sat 03/31/12 12:47 AM
god didn`t want purity, else, he would not have loosed the devil on us, amen. Sure God wanted purity. Reason the world is the way it is, is because Adam/Eve screwed up big time in the beginning. And God plans to not do this same exact mistake over again. Adam/Eve was handed everything on a silver platter moreorless, they were spoiled so to speak. They didn't know what they had, they thought they could have more when Satan told them they could have more. So they obeyed Satan in an attempts to know everything and be as God is. The only one's to blame there are them that ate of the fruit. You can not blame Satan, he only can tempt someone, he does not and can not force someone to do something or not do something. god made adam and eve. let the devil reside in eden. tell me this,,,how could their new/naive brains compete with Lucifers? he was how aged by this time? who can account. no one. one could say, god did this for pure amusement. and later, sorry for it, had to sacrifice his son for it. Who's competing? It's not about who's better or greater, us or Satan. It's about obedience and obeying our Father. No competition with Satan. And God the father sacrificed nothing. Jesus sacrificed himself, he died so we would not have to. no, no, brother, i am not TALKING ABOUT COMPETITION NOW. i say this, adam and eve, they were born innocent, right? and I say this, god let satan chill in the garden of eden to tempt them,,,which is fkkkn unfair fwor the reasons i stated (he`s how many aeons old in comparison???) No it is not unfair. We know not the exact time span between when they were first made to when they were tempted to eat of the tree. God forwarned them not to eat of the tree, so how exactly is it unfair? REGARDLESS if they comprehended what a punishment was or not, the punishment matters not. They were told not to eat of the tree, the why's, howcome's, what will happen if they do's, don't matter. so, do you believe that it is possible that adam and eve were created at the same time Lucifer was? Lucifer was created long while before Adam and Eve. Lucifer was God's arch angel. He was the most beautiful, strongest angel God had. So great, he grew an ego and thought himself greater then God. Thus the reason he was booted from Heaven. well, no wonder he was able to trick the simple Eve,,,,and Adam. maybe lucifer was so wonderfully created that he seemed like god himself. perhaps god reproduced himself evilly. or else, why would he not have killed off satan? hmmmmmm

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:49 AM Edited by Sloe00 on Sat 03/31/12 12:56 AM
they are one, in the beginning. so shall they be in the end. makes sense

Sloe00 Joined Sat 03/03/12 Posts: 434	Sat 03/31/12 12:53 AM
because he is omnipotent and saw this outcome. ???? Oh, i`m sorry,,,, god does NOT know the future??????????