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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh?
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). |
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). I love this!  |
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). Doesn't apply to all who aren't religious. You can't assume the same of all people who happen to not be religious. Lack of religion is not in itself a religion. It just occurs that some who aren't religious follow some of the same behaviors as those who are. |
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). Doesn't apply to all who aren't religious. You can't assume the same of all people who happen to not be religious. Lack of religion is not in itself a religion. It just occurs that some who aren't religious follow some of the same behaviors as those who are. Atheism is just as much of a religion as Christianity, Buddhism, ect ect. Religion - Details of belief as taught or discussed If you "believe" there is no God, that in itself is then a "belief". |
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). Doesn't apply to all who aren't religious. You can't assume the same of all people who happen to not be religious. Lack of religion is not in itself a religion. It just occurs that some who aren't religious follow some of the same behaviors as those who are. Atheism is just as much of a religion as Christianity, Buddhism, ect ect. Religion - Details of belief as taught or discussed If you "believe" there is no God, that in itself is then a "belief". Atheism is just as much a part of perception of faith as those you mention. Christianity, Buddism, Islam, spirit walking... each contains a small truth... My faith is that God is in each one. by learning them all (as much as one man can)... I find God in all things. It does not make me religious. I am simply a man of faith. |
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). Doesn't apply to all who aren't religious. You can't assume the same of all people who happen to not be religious. Lack of religion is not in itself a religion. It just occurs that some who aren't religious follow some of the same behaviors as those who are. Atheism is just as much of a religion as Christianity, Buddhism, ect ect. Religion - Details of belief as taught or discussed If you "believe" there is no God, that in itself is then a "belief". Actually that is the lie that the religious tell themselves to get them through the confusion they feel at how well the atheist does without the false god. Again more difficulty in recovering from the religious addiction. |
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). Well I know you are not speaking to me as I am not like the religious and I do not try to force my beliefs on others. So keep your stick to yourself in this area thanks. |
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A person posts a post to help and interact with those who are recovering from the religious illness or have recovered from it and still has to deal with the religious attempting to push their beliefs on those in the recovery from religion thread.
Although all are always welcome, of course, it speaks volumes as to the motives of the religious. Are they afraid that the non religious will get away from them and have a better life or something? |
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What speaks volumes towards the 'motives' of the athiests?
Perhaps the single minded pursuit of interference in the lives of the religious gives us a clue as to the segment of population that is afraid of being left behind. They constantly interfere with everyones right to be what they are... Instead requiring the Religious to be silent at schools, silent in public places, and silent in political circles... Just look at all the laws they have brought forth. I sense fear... Else why attack anyone that has been sucessful (and did so by faith). |
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What speaks volumes towards the 'motives' of the athiests? Perhaps the single minded pursuit of interference in the lives of the religious gives us a clue as to the segment of population that is afraid of being left behind. They constantly interfere with everyones right to be what they are... Instead requiring the Religious to be silent at schools, silent in public places, and silent in political circles... Just look at all the laws they have brought forth. I sense fear... Else why attack anyone that has been sucessful (and did so by faith). You are joking, right? Or else you are speaking of someone else, not this ex religious person here. I have outgrown religion. It no longer serves a purpose for me and there are others who have grown this far also. I started this thread for them and those who are on their way there or need to know that is okay to be there in their growth. No fear here, fear, that is the job of religion, to create fear and control through it. I am speaking to those who are past that. |
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What speaks volumes towards the 'motives' of the athiests? Perhaps the single minded pursuit of interference in the lives of the religious gives us a clue as to the segment of population that is afraid of being left behind. They constantly interfere with everyones right to be what they are... Instead requiring the Religious to be silent at schools, silent in public places, and silent in political circles... Just look at all the laws they have brought forth. I sense fear... Else why attack anyone that has been sucessful (and did so by faith). You are joking, right? Or else you are speaking of someone else, not this ex religious person here. I have outgrown religion. It no longer serves a purpose for me and there are others who have grown this far also. I started this thread for them and those who are on their way there or need to know that is okay to be there in their growth. No fear here, fear, that is the job of religion, to create fear and control through it. I am speaking to those who are past that. Identify this "illness" that you claim the religious have... |
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How is this truth...
I can not pray in public because of laws passed by those that fear religion. My children can not pray in school for the same reason. Yet People who feel themselves 'free' from religion fear it so much they would remove words of comfort from the very money I buy food with. (it is money... why do you care what name Cesar has upon it) Those same people have made it unlawful for my children to pray at school... those same people deride an athelete for praying before a contest, deride a politician for speaking of God, deride any books that mention God. If you are free from religion be free and leave be. |
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What speaks volumes towards the 'motives' of the athiests? Perhaps the single minded pursuit of interference in the lives of the religious gives us a clue as to the segment of population that is afraid of being left behind. They constantly interfere with everyones right to be what they are... Instead requiring the Religious to be silent at schools, silent in public places, and silent in political circles... Just look at all the laws they have brought forth. I sense fear... Else why attack anyone that has been sucessful (and did so by faith). You are joking, right? Or else you are speaking of someone else, not this ex religious person here. I have outgrown religion. It no longer serves a purpose for me and there are others who have grown this far also. I started this thread for them and those who are on their way there or need to know that is okay to be there in their growth. No fear here, fear, that is the job of religion, to create fear and control through it. I am speaking to those who are past that. Identify this "illness" that you claim the religious have... If you do not see the illness of religion itself then you are not ready for recovery. It is not for you. |
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How is this truth... I can not pray in public because of laws passed by those that fear religion. My children can not pray in school for the same reason. Yet People who feel themselves 'free' from religion fear it so much they would remove words of comfort from the very money I buy food with. (it is money... why do you care what name Cesar has upon it) Those same people have made it unlawful for my children to pray at school... those same people deride an athelete for praying before a contest, deride a politician for speaking of God, deride any books that mention God. If you are free from religion be free and leave be. Spoiled religious having a temper tantrum that they can't have their religion wherever they look...lol Your children can pray whereever they want to. It is just not needed for the whole class. Or send them to a religious school designed for this indoctrination. Religion doesn't need to be everywhere that people look, it is a private thing that is taught by the family and church, not the state or public. Spoiled spoiled religious in this country, given too much and now feeling persecuted when balance is being restored. |
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What speaks volumes towards the 'motives' of the athiests? Perhaps the single minded pursuit of interference in the lives of the religious gives us a clue as to the segment of population that is afraid of being left behind. They constantly interfere with everyones right to be what they are... Instead requiring the Religious to be silent at schools, silent in public places, and silent in political circles... Just look at all the laws they have brought forth. I sense fear... Else why attack anyone that has been sucessful (and did so by faith). You are joking, right? Or else you are speaking of someone else, not this ex religious person here. I have outgrown religion. It no longer serves a purpose for me and there are others who have grown this far also. I started this thread for them and those who are on their way there or need to know that is okay to be there in their growth. No fear here, fear, that is the job of religion, to create fear and control through it. I am speaking to those who are past that. Identify this "illness" that you claim the religious have... If you do not see the illness of religion itself then you are not ready for recovery. It is not for you. I think I see the illness now. You'll recover one day... Hope you get well soon! |
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What speaks volumes towards the 'motives' of the athiests? Perhaps the single minded pursuit of interference in the lives of the religious gives us a clue as to the segment of population that is afraid of being left behind. They constantly interfere with everyones right to be what they are... Instead requiring the Religious to be silent at schools, silent in public places, and silent in political circles... Just look at all the laws they have brought forth. I sense fear... Else why attack anyone that has been sucessful (and did so by faith). You are joking, right? Or else you are speaking of someone else, not this ex religious person here. I have outgrown religion. It no longer serves a purpose for me and there are others who have grown this far also. I started this thread for them and those who are on their way there or need to know that is okay to be there in their growth. No fear here, fear, that is the job of religion, to create fear and control through it. I am speaking to those who are past that. Identify this "illness" that you claim the religious have... If you do not see the illness of religion itself then you are not ready for recovery. It is not for you. I think I see the illness now. You'll recover one day... Hope you get well soon! LOL, I am better than good here.  |
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Peter, I am curious as to what your profile picture banner says translated into english ... what the symbols mean and other language, arabic(?). Thanks.
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). Doesn't apply to all who aren't religious. You can't assume the same of all people who happen to not be religious. Lack of religion is not in itself a religion. It just occurs that some who aren't religious follow some of the same behaviors as those who are. Atheism is just as much of a religion as Christianity, Buddhism, ect ect. Religion - Details of belief as taught or discussed If you "believe" there is no God, that in itself is then a "belief". I don't believe in any gods. That doesn't necessarily mean I state a belief that there certainly is none. It's the absence of a belief, not a belief in itself. Also, it's certainly not details taught. I didn't learn atheism from anyone, it was just natural. It's hardly even important for me to identify as one except when people try to bring up religion. If anything, it was always the intent that I was taught to be religious... and I was... as a child. Atheism is a single "trait", or rather lack of a belief. Not a set of beliefs. Not believing in gods is the beginning and end of what defines atheism. Nothing more. It's a single "trait" and not even one that's necessarily entirely separate of certain religions. (Atheistic Buddhism anyone?) Religion is multiple organized beliefs and rules that one adheres to. I'm not adhering to any beliefs or rules with no gods. I don't believe, so the thought becomes irrelevant. Aside from discussions on religion, gods are hardly on my mind. If not believing in gods is a religion, not collecting stamps is a hobby. |
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Well, we can tell from some of the post how hard they have designed religion to recover from eh? We can also tell by some of the posts that lack of religion is in itself a form of religion... those that propound a need for religion to be gone do so with the same fervor that a religious person proclaims their faith. Neither religion nor its opposit will I follow... I will simply place my faith in God. You may believe what you wish (but please do not force it upon me - I have a big stick also). Doesn't apply to all who aren't religious. You can't assume the same of all people who happen to not be religious. Lack of religion is not in itself a religion. It just occurs that some who aren't religious follow some of the same behaviors as those who are. Atheism is just as much of a religion as Christianity, Buddhism, ect ect. Religion - Details of belief as taught or discussed If you "believe" there is no God, that in itself is then a "belief". I don't believe in any gods. That doesn't necessarily mean I state a belief that there certainly is none. It's the absence of a belief, not a belief in itself. Also, it's certainly not details taught. I didn't learn atheism from anyone, it was just natural. It's hardly even important for me to identify as one except when people try to bring up religion. If anything, it was always the intent that I was taught to be religious... and I was... as a child. Atheism is a single "trait", or rather lack of a belief. Not a set of beliefs. Not believing in gods is the beginning and end of what defines atheism. Nothing more. It's a single "trait" and not even one that's necessarily entirely separate of certain religions. (Atheistic Buddhism anyone?) Religion is multiple organized beliefs and rules that one adheres to. I'm not adhering to any beliefs or rules with no gods. I don't believe, so the thought becomes irrelevant. Aside from discussions on religion, gods are hardly on my mind. If not believing in gods is a religion, not collecting stamps is a hobby. Atheism is a single "trait", or rather lack of a belief. Not a set of beliefs One can not have a lack of a belief. You believe there are no gods, thus a belief. |
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