Well hello...i m having a "problem" actually,i like computers but i dont know where to start,i got a pc,and i have it about 4 months now..
i ve learn the os's (i run windows7,ubuntu & bt5),formatting drives,repairing apple devices whatever they had,and made my first site with some basic html,after wep i actually rushed str8 for the wpa/wpa2 of my own network of course,worked on it for weeks,did some steps more than the usual methods,and i give up for now cause its not that important.
So i decide to start learning,i want to go str8 for a job that pays well in the relative sector,i just dont know where to start,like,so many languages,so many books about 'em,and so many terms and all that networking system,i feel like i will need like 15 years to understand,remember and master everything..and also so many tools/programs..
I d need to listen to some advices,about which direction to choose,for a good present & future job,that really deserves to spend hours & hours of working per day/everyday.
And questions like,if i start programming,do i really need to read like 1050 pages of tcp/ip?lol..like that,i d really appreciate if you specify what to dont do "x" sector and for "y" sector..

Nobody is going to hire you for any kind of IT or computer job unless
you have some kind of degree or certificate that proves you can do
the kind of work they are hiring for.

That said, there are loads of people opening up computer repair type shops all over the country. Be your own boss, work your own hours,
and make a few bucks if you're good enough.

What is it you want to do? Be more specific about your goals first.

yea i know motowndowntown,next year i ll go in a uni,just because i heard that an admin or a programmer job would pay that well and i also like to work on one of those,but i cant choose..as it seems you cant be a master admin and a master programmer at the same time right?lol..
totage,my goals would be like,to be a security professional, to have a great knowledge about all these protocols,to know how everything works,systems,encryption mechanisms,to write my own scripts,to be able manipulate softwares..what i dont like is to make websites,or making apps for androids,iphone etc,not at all lol...like that.
I just need a basis,some right suggestions about where to focus for the first levels,like it would be graduation
first you learn "a"
2nd you learn "b"
like that..

I am an IT student for software development. I am studying network programming in Java (I mainly program in Java). Through my degree I have studied operating systems, hardware fundamentals web-design and JavaScript's as well as other languages such as C/C++. I can tell you first hand that even though programming positions pay well it may not be the best course as programming is actually pretty complex work. It also has more flexibility then other things such as with web-design or JavaScripts it is translated and displayed in code that is written in Java or C/C++. If your looking for a new trade for employment I would recommend hardware or web-design. You can learn these in less then a year. Programming is far more complex and detailed then you might think.

I meant to say that it is written in languages LIKE Java or C/C++ (not exclusively written in those languages), that is browsers and other software such as applets that parse HTML/XHTML and JavaScript encoding. Mark up language is easy to learn ... JavaScripts is a little more like regular programming language with less strict syntax and executed by a web-browser.

In general, no. You can be completely ignorant of one area of computer science, very proficient in another, and find work in the area you are proficient in.

I've known many successful programmers who were clueless about the detailed workings of tcp/ip. What they need to know are more general principals of networking, and the APIs that allow them to use the network, without understanding the details.

However, you will probably need to develop well over 1,000 pages worth of understanding of something in order to find work as a developer. Find an area of CS that is so exciting and interesting to you that you would love to slog through 1,000 pages to understand it.

Also, you don't really need to know how to spell, use proper grammar, nor properly differentiate between principle and principal.

But it would help to get a job if you did.

So, you want to be a network security consultant? Perhaps focus on the security aspect of networks, rather than a little bit of everything. There's so much there, it's easy to become overwhelmed and distracted by it all.

You may be interested in being Cisco certified.

True.

Really, its a rare software developer that couldn't become a grammar nazi if they wanted... the proper use of programming languages has a lot in common with the proper use of natural languages.

A Microsoft cert will probably work for most junior programming positions, it will get you in the door. Pick a language cert (look around your where you want to work and see what people are looking for) and get the book.

It is unlikely you would need to know details of transmission control protocol / Internet protocol (TCP/IP) . I can tell you way more then you'll need to know right this second. TCP/IP prepares bursts of information to travel across a network typically referred to as packets. The packet is prepared in layers (4 if I remember correctly). One layer contains information as to the destination. Most likely form you'll find this in is an IP address ( a 4 byte period separated address) an example is Mingle2.com (from my Java compiler)

www.Mingle2.com/209.246.24.103
BUILD SUCCESSFUL (total time: 8 seconds)

it contains 4 bytes that range from 0 - 255 separated by periods. If you want to you can expedite the process by eliminating the DNS look-up and copy and paste this 209.246.24.103 to your web-browser. It eliminates the step in the transmission where the String text
www.Mingle2.com is converted to the 4 byte address and should retrieve the Mingle2 HTML file slightly quicker than usual.

*Assuming the IP address is static (and it prolly is) and not dynamic that IP address will be good by the time you read this and may not be otherwise.

thanks Mirage4279 and thanks all of you guys..seems better to work just in one sector,i think i ll study on networking and may be some basic programming if there is a time for it
totage is this what i need to learn for the cisco > http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/3252304 what you think,are these good enough?

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