Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
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Sun 07/08/12 11:58 AM


That is the reason my dad does not like being called "father". Not quoting from anywhere.

And again, how does that imply hatred? He loves being honored as my "dad". He is not ashamed of being my "dad". So again, how exactly is that hatred of any kind?


so your male birth parent is a Christian?

if he is a Christian then to be a disciple he has to hate you
if he is not a Christian...then he specifically hates you



Do explain how it's hate then. You think of hate all the time, give the reasoning behind it being hate.

Again, he is not ashamed of being my "parent" or "dad". And he's not ashamed of being referred to as my "father". He just thinks the title "father" belongs to just God the father of everything. So he chooses to not be referred to as "father".

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Sun 07/08/12 11:59 AM





There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.


Cowboy the context is that Jesus "hid" then left .....he simply was afraid....


Afraid of what?

Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


if jesus believed that he wouldn't have "hid" ....

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Sun 07/08/12 12:04 PM



That is the reason my dad does not like being called "father". Not quoting from anywhere.

And again, how does that imply hatred? He loves being honored as my "dad". He is not ashamed of being my "dad". So again, how exactly is that hatred of any kind?


so your male birth parent is a Christian?

if he is a Christian then to be a disciple he has to hate you
if he is not a Christian...then he specifically hates you



Do explain how it's hate then. You think of hate all the time, give the reasoning behind it being hate.

Again, he is not ashamed of being my "parent" or "dad". And he's not ashamed of being referred to as my "father". He just thinks the title "father" belongs to just God the father of everything. So he chooses to not be referred to as "father".


Cowboy...the fact that Christians call Preist "Father" is why what you say is not true ...and that is why your male birth parent can't hide behind religion as an excuse not to call him Father ...this is why it's out of hate or shame


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Sun 07/08/12 12:09 PM






There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.


Cowboy the context is that Jesus "hid" then left .....he simply was afraid....


Afraid of what?

Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


if jesus believed that he wouldn't have "hid" ....


Again, he still had more work to do before he left this world to return to his father.

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Sun 07/08/12 12:11 PM




That is the reason my dad does not like being called "father". Not quoting from anywhere.

And again, how does that imply hatred? He loves being honored as my "dad". He is not ashamed of being my "dad". So again, how exactly is that hatred of any kind?


so your male birth parent is a Christian?

if he is a Christian then to be a disciple he has to hate you
if he is not a Christian...then he specifically hates you



Do explain how it's hate then. You think of hate all the time, give the reasoning behind it being hate.

Again, he is not ashamed of being my "parent" or "dad". And he's not ashamed of being referred to as my "father". He just thinks the title "father" belongs to just God the father of everything. So he chooses to not be referred to as "father".


Cowboy...the fact that Christians call Preist "Father" is why what you say is not true ...and that is why your male birth parent can't hide behind religion as an excuse not to call him Father ...this is why it's out of hate or shame




Christians don't call anyone father. That's a catholic thing. lol heck Christians don't even have "preists", we have preachers. And they are referred to as "brothers", not "fathers".

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Sun 07/08/12 12:24 PM







There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.


Cowboy the context is that Jesus "hid" then left .....he simply was afraid....


Afraid of what?

Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


if jesus believed that he wouldn't have "hid" ....


Again, he still had more work to do before he left this world to return to his father.


and now you understand why Jesus wouldn't have preached to the masses that he was Lord God

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Sun 07/08/12 12:28 PM







There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.


Cowboy the context is that Jesus "hid" then left .....he simply was afraid....


Afraid of what?

Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


if jesus believed that he wouldn't have "hid" ....


Again, he still had more work to do before he left this world to return to his father.


and now your understand why he wouldn't have preached to the masses that he was God ...

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Sun 07/08/12 12:28 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 07/08/12 12:32 PM

Christians don't call anyone father. That's a catholic thing. lol heck Christians don't even have "preists", we have preachers. And they are referred to as "brothers", not "fathers".


when did Catholics stop being Christians? ......

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Sun 07/08/12 12:29 PM







There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.


Cowboy the context is that Jesus "hid" then left .....he simply was afraid....


Afraid of what?

Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


if jesus believed that he wouldn't have "hid" ....


Again, he still had more work to do before he left this world to return to his father.


and now your understand why he wouldn't have preached to the masses that he was God ...

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Sun 07/08/12 12:30 PM








There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.


Cowboy the context is that Jesus "hid" then left .....he simply was afraid....


Afraid of what?

Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


if jesus believed that he wouldn't have "hid" ....


Again, he still had more work to do before he left this world to return to his father.


and now your understand why he wouldn't have preached to the masses that he was God ...


Jesus preaches nothing, he was teaching. And he did teach the masses. He has taught every living soul on this planet even still today. If people don't listen/learn that is their fault. But he has told everyone.

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Sun 07/08/12 12:34 PM

Jesus preaches nothing, he was teaching. And he did teach the masses. He has taught every living soul on this planet even still today. If people don't listen/learn that is their fault. But he has told everyone.


the teachings of Jesus was about the Father not about him

imagine everytime Jesus was teaching that he was God he had to hide and leave the temple to keep from getting stone

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Sun 07/08/12 12:39 PM
Christians don't call anyone father. That's a catholic thing. lol heck Christians don't even have "preists", we have preachers. And they are referred to as "brothers", not "fathers


Christians call priest Father and monks call each other brothers

also you claim that you weren't a Christian or follow Christianity which is why there is no reason for you not to call your male parent Father ...unless he told you not to...and that is why it's hate or shame


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Sun 07/08/12 12:40 PM


Jesus preaches nothing, he was teaching. And he did teach the masses. He has taught every living soul on this planet even still today. If people don't listen/learn that is their fault. But he has told everyone.


the teachings of Jesus was about the Father not about him

imagine everytime Jesus was teaching that he was God he had to hide and leave the temple to keep from getting stone


He taught about both him and his father, placing his father first.

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Sun 07/08/12 12:43 PM



Jesus preaches nothing, he was teaching. And he did teach the masses. He has taught every living soul on this planet even still today. If people don't listen/learn that is their fault. But he has told everyone.


the teachings of Jesus was about the Father not about him

imagine everytime Jesus was teaching that he was God he had to hide and leave the temple to keep from getting stone


He taught about both him and his father, placing his father first.


nope..remember he "hid" and did like Elvis and left the building

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Sun 07/08/12 12:43 PM

Christians don't call anyone father. That's a catholic thing. lol heck Christians don't even have "preists", we have preachers. And they are referred to as "brothers", not "fathers


Christians call priest Father and monks call each other brothers

also you claim that you weren't a Christian or follow Christianity which is why there is no reason for you not to call your male parent Father ...unless he told you not to...and that is why it's hate or shame




Christians don't have "priests" we have preachers

And being a Christian or not has absolutely nothing to do with it. I obey God, I learn about God in my walk of life and through reading/listening about the scriptures we are given.

You're not explaining how that is hate though. What is the big difference between referring to one as "dad" or "father"? Where's the hate?

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Sun 07/08/12 12:45 PM




Jesus preaches nothing, he was teaching. And he did teach the masses. He has taught every living soul on this planet even still today. If people don't listen/learn that is their fault. But he has told everyone.


the teachings of Jesus was about the Father not about him

imagine everytime Jesus was teaching that he was God he had to hide and leave the temple to keep from getting stone


He taught about both him and his father, placing his father first.


nope..remember he "hid" and did like Elvis and left the building


Yeah he hid one time avoiding the stoning cause he had more work to be done. But that doesn't mean he stopped teaching. To this day he is still teaching.

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Sun 07/08/12 12:53 PM

Christians don't have "priests" we have preachers


Christians have priest preachers pastors etc.


And being a Christian or not has absolutely nothing to do with it. I obey God, I learn about God in my walk of life and through reading/listening about the scriptures we are given.


Cowboy...you're the poster child as to why Christians need to go to public school to forced them to learn what is in the bible


You're not explaining how that is hate though. What is the big difference between referring to one as "dad" or "father"? Where's the hate?


Cowboy..the hate is when a Father specifically tells a child not to call them Father ...you have yet to explain how it's a sign of Love for the child

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Sun 07/08/12 12:59 PM

Yeah he hid one time avoiding the stoning cause he had more work to be done. But that doesn't mean he stopped teaching. To this day he is still teaching.


Jesus always hid..especially from the romans..that's why they had to pay Judas to find him

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Sun 07/08/12 01:28 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 07/08/12 01:36 PM


Christians don't have "priests" we have preachers


Christians have priest preachers pastors etc.


And being a Christian or not has absolutely nothing to do with it. I obey God, I learn about God in my walk of life and through reading/listening about the scriptures we are given.


Cowboy...you're the poster child as to why Christians need to go to public school to forced them to learn what is in the bible


You're not explaining how that is hate though. What is the big difference between referring to one as "dad" or "father"? Where's the hate?


Cowboy..the hate is when a Father specifically tells a child not to call them Father ...you have yet to explain how it's a sign of Love for the child




Cowboy...you're the poster child as to why Christians need to go to public school to forced them to learn what is in the bible


Do what now? I get "forced them to learn what is in the bible" out of this. Rest of it isn't to clear. No one is forcing anyone nor does anyone support being forced into reading the bible/learning about God.


Cowboy..the hate is when a Father specifically tells a child not to call them Father ...you have yet to explain how it's a sign of Love for the child


Again, it's not like he said to not call him dad or my parent. Just specifically not "father" for there is only one father who art in Heaven. Either way, it's not a sign of love or a lack of it. Just doesn't want to be called specifically "Father". Dad, parent,and so on is fine. Just there is only one father and he is everyone's father.

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Sun 07/08/12 01:31 PM


Yeah he hid one time avoiding the stoning cause he had more work to be done. But that doesn't mean he stopped teaching. To this day he is still teaching.


Jesus always hid..especially from the romans..that's why they had to pay Judas to find him


You gave one verse of Jesus hiding from being stoned, now he hid all the time? lol give another example of Jesus "hiding". And they didn't pay Judas to "find" him. They paid Judas to tell them where he was. But that doesn't mean Jesus was hiding, they just were not aware of where Jesus was located. Gotta think of the time and culture in that day and age. There was no phones to call and find people ect.