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so "Christians like yourself concept of forgiveness is to quote something hateful said by Gandhi?, in doing so you're actually giving creed to Gandhi's point as to why he wouldn't like Christians ... and that is what I meant about the concept of showing the Love, it's "supposedly suppose" to give the impression or perhaps the delusion that it's something good but it leans more toward hate in the form of passive aggression Christianity breeds hypocrisy... Man breeds hypocrisy. There is no one greater then another, besides God of course. But speaking of the people that walk this Earth in the flesh. Not one of us is greater then another, not a Christian, not a Catholic, not anyone. We are all sinners and all fall short of the glory of God. And there is no hypocrisy in what we're taught. What is wrong for you is wrong for me as well. Unless you please wish to elaborate on your comment. John 15:13 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Is this not true? There is only one enemy, that is Satan. So with that, everyone that walks this Earth is a "friend". Sure, I'll elaborate...In order to be a true christian, you must sacrifice your ability to reason by holding faith above question...This fact creates a breeding ground for hypocrisy ... Again, where is the hypocrisy? Hypocrisy is telling someone not to do something and turning around and doing it. Or something of that nature, so again I ask. Where is the hypocrisy? One example of hypocrisy (for me) is exactly what Funches pointed out to Harmony a couple of posts back when he called her out for quoting hate speak while claiming to be a christian.... hy·poc·ri·sy/hiˈpäkrisē/ Noun: The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. pointing out hate speak is not an example of hypocrisy pointing out hate speak while speaking hatefully would be hypocrisy I think the term is being misunderstood and misused,,, I told the truth of something that happened, there is nothing hypocritical in that The hypocrisy (for me) is not in questioning the validity of the statement....The hypocrisy (for me) lies within the fact that you are repeating hate speak, carrying it further, dispensing it...I don't think a true christian would do that.... a true christian never repeats truths about what has been said or done? I guess 'true' christians should not be reading the bible then,,,, and carrying things 'further' is the whole dynamic of a forum with topics,,,, True christians, as I understand the meaning, do not "ever" knowingly speak badly toward or about others ... The dynamic of the forums is not what is being discussed... I did not realize quoting was speaking badly of someone,,, Using something negative about someone else in order to prove your point or make your case (as was the case here  ) is not behaving like a true christian IMO...It's just my opin, why make such a big deal out of it Harmony...
And just for curiosity sake, why would "quoting" change or excuse intention... |
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the logic is faulty it is still a choice to be a 'christian' just like it is a choice to be a doctor or a lawyer and hopefully doctors dont help people JUST because it is required (commanded) in their job description, but also because they chose that path to do so likewise, my love isnt existent JUST Because I was commanded to love, it is there because I choose the path,,, right...you like anyone else have a choice to be a Christian, but once you make that choice to become a Christian you have enter into a covenant with Jesus to follow all his commands without question if you choose not to follow all his commands....to then call yourself a Christian is hypocrisy as pertaining to your analogy of a Doctor or Lawyer they too have also have made a vow to their profession and if they violate that vow can lose their medical license or be DisBarred and even go to jail what the point of you becoming a Christian if you are not going to obey "all" the commands of Jesus without question it turns Christianity into a fad, a hobby, an ice breaker at a party You are incorrect funches. We don't obey because we are a "Christian". We are called a "Christian" because we obey. One does not "become a Christian" Then obey, again we are called a "Christian" because we do obey and have faith in Jesus Christ. And people put in the faith area of religion so they don't have to. |
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so "Christians like yourself concept of forgiveness is to quote something hateful said by Gandhi?, in doing so you're actually giving creed to Gandhi's point as to why he wouldn't like Christians ... and that is what I meant about the concept of showing the Love, it's "supposedly suppose" to give the impression or perhaps the delusion that it's something good but it leans more toward hate in the form of passive aggression Christianity breeds hypocrisy... Man breeds hypocrisy. There is no one greater then another, besides God of course. But speaking of the people that walk this Earth in the flesh. Not one of us is greater then another, not a Christian, not a Catholic, not anyone. We are all sinners and all fall short of the glory of God. And there is no hypocrisy in what we're taught. What is wrong for you is wrong for me as well. Unless you please wish to elaborate on your comment. John 15:13 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Is this not true? There is only one enemy, that is Satan. So with that, everyone that walks this Earth is a "friend". Sure, I'll elaborate...In order to be a true christian, you must sacrifice your ability to reason by holding faith above question...This fact creates a breeding ground for hypocrisy ... Again, where is the hypocrisy? Hypocrisy is telling someone not to do something and turning around and doing it. Or something of that nature, so again I ask. Where is the hypocrisy? One example of hypocrisy (for me) is exactly what Funches pointed out to Harmony a couple of posts back when he called her out for quoting hate speak while claiming to be a christian.... hy·poc·ri·sy/hiˈpäkrisē/ Noun: The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. pointing out hate speak is not an example of hypocrisy pointing out hate speak while speaking hatefully would be hypocrisy I think the term is being misunderstood and misused,,, I told the truth of something that happened, there is nothing hypocritical in that The hypocrisy (for me) is not in questioning the validity of the statement....The hypocrisy (for me) lies within the fact that you are repeating hate speak, carrying it further, dispensing it...I don't think a true christian would do that.... a true christian never repeats truths about what has been said or done? I guess 'true' christians should not be reading the bible then,,,, and carrying things 'further' is the whole dynamic of a forum with topics,,,, True christians, as I understand the meaning, do not "ever" knowingly speak badly toward or about others ... The dynamic of the forums is not what is being discussed... I did not realize quoting was speaking badly of someone,,, Using something negative about someone else in order to prove your point or make your case (as was the case here ) is not behaving like a true christian IMO...It's just my opin, why make such a big deal out of it Harmony...
And just for curiosity sake, why would "quoting" change or excuse intention... we dont learn lessons just from what people do right, we learn lessons from others errors and mistakes without ever REPEATING What mistakes have been made by others, we erase the opportunity for others to understand the whole bible is a testament , a repetition, of what others have done , to show how imperfect humans are Ghandi was no exception, and that has nothing to do with being hateful, anymore than Christ was hateful in his corrections and explanations a christian, by definition, is able to know right from wrong and have forgiveness, that doesnt happen by having on blinders and having no opinions about the humanity of all and the imperfections of even the most revered,,., its not a big deal, I just wanted to clear up how it has nothing to do with 'hypocrisy' which is saying one thing and doing something else,,, |
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so "Christians like yourself concept of forgiveness is to quote something hateful said by Gandhi?, in doing so you're actually giving creed to Gandhi's point as to why he wouldn't like Christians ... and that is what I meant about the concept of showing the Love, it's "supposedly suppose" to give the impression or perhaps the delusion that it's something good but it leans more toward hate in the form of passive aggression Christianity breeds hypocrisy... Man breeds hypocrisy. There is no one greater then another, besides God of course. But speaking of the people that walk this Earth in the flesh. Not one of us is greater then another, not a Christian, not a Catholic, not anyone. We are all sinners and all fall short of the glory of God. And there is no hypocrisy in what we're taught. What is wrong for you is wrong for me as well. Unless you please wish to elaborate on your comment. John 15:13 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Is this not true? There is only one enemy, that is Satan. So with that, everyone that walks this Earth is a "friend". Sure, I'll elaborate...In order to be a true christian, you must sacrifice your ability to reason by holding faith above question...This fact creates a breeding ground for hypocrisy ... Again, where is the hypocrisy? Hypocrisy is telling someone not to do something and turning around and doing it. Or something of that nature, so again I ask. Where is the hypocrisy? One example of hypocrisy (for me) is exactly what Funches pointed out to Harmony a couple of posts back when he called her out for quoting hate speak while claiming to be a christian.... hy·poc·ri·sy/hiˈpäkrisē/ Noun: The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. pointing out hate speak is not an example of hypocrisy pointing out hate speak while speaking hatefully would be hypocrisy I think the term is being misunderstood and misused,,, I told the truth of something that happened, there is nothing hypocritical in that The hypocrisy (for me) is not in questioning the validity of the statement....The hypocrisy (for me) lies within the fact that you are repeating hate speak, carrying it further, dispensing it...I don't think a true christian would do that.... a true christian never repeats truths about what has been said or done? I guess 'true' christians should not be reading the bible then,,,, and carrying things 'further' is the whole dynamic of a forum with topics,,,, True christians, as I understand the meaning, do not "ever" knowingly speak badly toward or about others ... The dynamic of the forums is not what is being discussed... I did not realize quoting was speaking badly of someone,,, Using something negative about someone else in order to prove your point or make your case (as was the case here ) is not behaving like a true christian IMO...It's just my opin, why make such a big deal out of it Harmony...
And just for curiosity sake, why would "quoting" change or excuse intention... we dont learn lessons just from what people do right, we learn lessons from others errors and mistakes without ever REPEATING What mistakes have been made by others, we erase the opportunity for others to understand the whole bible is a testament , a repetition, of what others have done , to show how imperfect humans are Ghandi was no exception, and that has nothing to do with being hateful, anymore than Christ was hateful in his corrections and explanations a christian, by definition, is able to know right from wrong and have forgiveness, that doesnt happen by having on blinders and having no opinions about the humanity of all and the imperfections of even the most revered,,., its not a big deal, I just wanted to clear up how it has nothing to do with 'hypocrisy' which is saying one thing and doing something else,,, And I call more hypocrisy..You were not trying to prove Gandhi wrong, you were trying to prove yourself right... |
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the logic is faulty it is still a choice to be a 'christian' just like it is a choice to be a doctor or a lawyer and hopefully doctors dont help people JUST because it is required (commanded) in their job description, but also because they chose that path to do so likewise, my love isnt existent JUST Because I was commanded to love, it is there because I choose the path,,, right...you like anyone else have a choice to be a Christian, but once you make that choice to become a Christian you have enter into a covenant with Jesus to follow all his commands without question if you choose not to follow all his commands....to then call yourself a Christian is hypocrisy as pertaining to your analogy of a Doctor or Lawyer they too have also have made a vow to their profession and if they violate that vow can lose their medical license or be DisBarred and even go to jail what the point of you becoming a Christian if you are not going to obey "all" the commands of Jesus without question it turns Christianity into a fad, a hobby, an ice breaker at a party Good morning Funches. How you doing on Galatians? It again answers the conflict that you bring up. The point is we will NEVER obey all the commands of the Lord. That is the point of Christ and need of what he did. If we could obey all the commandments of the Lord, there would be no reason for Christ to come. God send him because we needed him. What was the need? That in all our efforts, we are going to fall short of Gods glory. Does it matter in which manor we fall short? No. And everyone is in the same boat making me no better than you. When we accept that we need help, that we wont fix this on our own and we accept the Lords atonement for our mistakes and promise of full acceptance. This is the beginning of peace in our lives. God didn't build robots. He wants us to WANT to obey his commandments. Not to perform them out of requirement. I see it this way. When you get a dog, could you imagine what kind of energy it would take for a dog to express the love he does for you out of requirement instead of desire? But out of desire, he leaps up and cannot wait for you to open the door at the end of the day. He will follow you everywhere waiting and wanting just a chance a touch or appreciation. He is trainable and loyal out of desire. If the dog had a selfish bone in his body, he would stop existing as a dog. He would be a cat. That is what happens when we learn to love the Lord. You cannot wait to be in the presents of the Lord. We build a desire to do His will because it pleases Him. Our selfishness decreases over time. You keep referring to the requirement of obedience to the laws of Christ and if we don't, you say we are hypocrites. Guess what. Then we are all hypocrites. Except I am not claiming to be able to obey all the commandments of Christ. Quite the opposite. I cannot. And yet Christ still died for me. And for that, I am thankful and desire his joy too. I am more than happy to attempt to obey all his commandments. And I get better at it every day. And He has removed all guilt and shame for the times I still fall short. Which is daily. Peace to you today Funches. "HikerJohn"...criminals use that same defense in your post to explain to the Judge as to why they are imperfect and shouldn't be expected to follow all the laws of society and therefore shouldn't have to go to prison in soceity you're not a criminal until you get caught and or convicted in religion you are a heathen once you disobey Jesus did Jesus make commandments so that you wouldn't follow them...or was his expectation that you would follow them without question I wonder if the first 12 disciples told the same thing to Jesus that you are now in this forum posting |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus |
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You are incorrect funches. We don't obey because we are a "Christian". We are called a "Christian" because we obey. One does not "become a Christian" Then obey, again we are called a "Christian" because we do obey and have faith in Jesus Christ. Cowboy, I've never met anyone that can fit so many contradictions into one post, you have more contradictions in that post than you have words but anyway, early in this thread you admitted that you loved Satan....so do that mean that you loved Satan before you became a Christian |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... being christian is a choice I do not choose satan I choose christ ,, cant be clearer than that |
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so "Christians like yourself concept of forgiveness is to quote something hateful said by Gandhi?, in doing so you're actually giving creed to Gandhi's point as to why he wouldn't like Christians ... and that is what I meant about the concept of showing the Love, it's "supposedly suppose" to give the impression or perhaps the delusion that it's something good but it leans more toward hate in the form of passive aggression Christianity breeds hypocrisy... Man breeds hypocrisy. There is no one greater then another, besides God of course. But speaking of the people that walk this Earth in the flesh. Not one of us is greater then another, not a Christian, not a Catholic, not anyone. We are all sinners and all fall short of the glory of God. And there is no hypocrisy in what we're taught. What is wrong for you is wrong for me as well. Unless you please wish to elaborate on your comment. John 15:13 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Is this not true? There is only one enemy, that is Satan. So with that, everyone that walks this Earth is a "friend". Sure, I'll elaborate...In order to be a true christian, you must sacrifice your ability to reason by holding faith above question...This fact creates a breeding ground for hypocrisy ... Again, where is the hypocrisy? Hypocrisy is telling someone not to do something and turning around and doing it. Or something of that nature, so again I ask. Where is the hypocrisy? One example of hypocrisy (for me) is exactly what Funches pointed out to Harmony a couple of posts back when he called her out for quoting hate speak while claiming to be a christian.... hy·poc·ri·sy/hiˈpäkrisē/ Noun: The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. pointing out hate speak is not an example of hypocrisy pointing out hate speak while speaking hatefully would be hypocrisy I think the term is being misunderstood and misused,,, I told the truth of something that happened, there is nothing hypocritical in that The hypocrisy (for me) is not in questioning the validity of the statement....The hypocrisy (for me) lies within the fact that you are repeating hate speak, carrying it further, dispensing it...I don't think a true christian would do that.... a true christian never repeats truths about what has been said or done? I guess 'true' christians should not be reading the bible then,,,, and carrying things 'further' is the whole dynamic of a forum with topics,,,, True christians, as I understand the meaning, do not "ever" knowingly speak badly toward or about others ... The dynamic of the forums is not what is being discussed... I did not realize quoting was speaking badly of someone,,, Using something negative about someone else in order to prove your point or make your case (as was the case here ) is not behaving like a true christian IMO...It's just my opin, why make such a big deal out of it Harmony...
And just for curiosity sake, why would "quoting" change or excuse intention... we dont learn lessons just from what people do right, we learn lessons from others errors and mistakes without ever REPEATING What mistakes have been made by others, we erase the opportunity for others to understand the whole bible is a testament , a repetition, of what others have done , to show how imperfect humans are Ghandi was no exception, and that has nothing to do with being hateful, anymore than Christ was hateful in his corrections and explanations a christian, by definition, is able to know right from wrong and have forgiveness, that doesnt happen by having on blinders and having no opinions about the humanity of all and the imperfections of even the most revered,,., its not a big deal, I just wanted to clear up how it has nothing to do with 'hypocrisy' which is saying one thing and doing something else,,, And I call more hypocrisy..You were not trying to prove Gandhi wrong, you were trying to prove yourself right... right about what? it was my first post in this thread , in DIRECT response to the op? |
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Right about the virtue of being a christian....
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... being christian is a choice I do not choose satan I choose christ ,, cant be clearer than that oh oh...someone is trying to be deceptive MsHarmony...I didn't ask if you choose Satan...I asked if you love Satan |
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Right about the virtue of being a christian.... I could not be 'right' when I had not yet contributed any thoughts on it,,,, nor could I Be trying to prove I was 'right' I merely mentioned a statement from the same person that the thread initially quoted I offered a DIFFERENT quote to highlight the irony of such a statement from the particular source,,, that someone would lump a whole group together that they dont like, when that group is filled with people that are still capable of not disliking that person in return is possibly one virtue that should be 'likeable' christians are not hypocritical for aknowledging or discussing irony,,,,, |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... being christian is a choice I do not choose satan I choose christ ,, cant be clearer than that oh oh...someone is trying to be deceptive MsHarmony...I didn't ask if you choose Satan...I asked if you love Satan no, I have no love for evil,, |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... being christian is a choice I do not choose satan I choose christ ,, cant be clearer than that oh oh...someone is trying to be deceptive MsHarmony...I didn't ask if you choose Satan...I asked if you love Satan no, I have no love for evil,, pretty sure there are people in your life that done evil things and still doing evil things but yet you love them .. so why not Satan? |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... being christian is a choice I do not choose satan I choose christ ,, cant be clearer than that oh oh...someone is trying to be deceptive MsHarmony...I didn't ask if you choose Satan...I asked if you love Satan no, I have no love for evil,, pretty sure there are people in your life that done evil things and still doing evil things but yet you love them .. so why not Satan? I dont believe people are EVIL, although they do evil things sometimes unlike Sstan, who I believe is pure evil and does evil ALWAYS... |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... being christian is a choice I do not choose satan I choose christ ,, cant be clearer than that oh oh...someone is trying to be deceptive MsHarmony...I didn't ask if you choose Satan...I asked if you love Satan no, I have no love for evil,, pretty sure there are people in your life that done evil things and still doing evil things but yet you love them .. so why not Satan? Why would we not love Satan? Matthew 5:43-48 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... being christian is a choice I do not choose satan I choose christ ,, cant be clearer than that oh oh...someone is trying to be deceptive MsHarmony...I didn't ask if you choose Satan...I asked if you love Satan no, I have no love for evil,, pretty sure there are people in your life that done evil things and still doing evil things but yet you love them .. so why not Satan? Why would we not love Satan? Matthew 5:43-48 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Now, lets not confuse things. Loving a being does not mean you love their actions or condone to what they do or don't do. |
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no more point than becoming a doctor and not tending to peoples medical needs but also not relevant to being a 'robot' MsHarmony....another bad analogy? a Doctor is not required to tend to people medical needs,...in fact a doctor is not required to practice medicine at all, can the same be said about a Christian pertaining to Faith? you are truly The Mistress of bad analogies but anyway ..a Christian is commanded to love....what do you call those that claim to be Christian but do not follow the commands of Jesus an employed doctor must tend to peoples needs or they are no longer employed as a doctor those who dont practice are doctors only by name I can have a law degree, but I wouldnt consider myself a lawyer if I wasnt practicing law my analogies are fine but if its easier for you, a doctor is required to DO NO HARM,,,, if they do harm they will lose their license it still does negate thair CHOICE to follow that requirement and do no harm anymore than our laws make us into robots when we choose to follow them,, those who dont follow the coammands are human that is why there is Jesus great sacrfice, to compesnate for the human flaw of sin by offering repentance and forgiveness... MsHarmony...a doctor or lawyer can still teach instead of practicing,..can a Christian make that same claim...that's why you using a doctor and a lawyer are bad analogies pertaining to you somehow believing that as a Christian you have "choice" to intentionally not follow the commands of Jesus so I guess the most logical question to ask is do you love Satan... being christian is a choice I do not choose satan I choose christ ,, cant be clearer than that oh oh...someone is trying to be deceptive MsHarmony...I didn't ask if you choose Satan...I asked if you love Satan no, I have no love for evil,, pretty sure there are people in your life that done evil things and still doing evil things but yet you love them .. so why not Satan? Why would we not love Satan? Matthew 5:43-48 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. I do not love Satan, he is beyond a mere enemy he is evil, and I do not love evil |
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