Topic: Gandhi said...
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Sun 10/07/12 12:15 PM






its not for me to 'forgive' Satan, he has already been deemed unworthy of forgiveness and his eternity is sealed

people are worthy of love because none are all bad or all good and I am neither

Satan is ALL BAD< as evidenced by his fate being sealed with no room to be forgiven

comparing how I should feel about SATAN and how I feel about fellow humankind,, is comparing apples and oranges


wow MsHarmony,... now you saying the exact same bad and evil things that you complained about Gandhi saying in your first post of this thread ...that you claimed "that Christians such as yourself" can overlook

now do you see the hypocrisy



no

its like asking why I would support giving milk to cats but not spiders

its apples and oranges,,

I love fellow humankind, I have no love for SATAN,,,

nor do I feel the authority to 'forgive' him,,,


same hate message that Gandhi gave when he was comparing some people to animals...

God and the Angels are also not humankind? ..are you also incapable of loving them...



noone mentioned HATE,, I neither HATE nor LOVE satan



I love Jesus for he sacrificed great pains so I could be forgiven

I love God for he gave me life

Satan holds nowhere near the same significance or have earned anywhere near the same reverance,,,


you didn't answer the question about being able to love God Jesus the Holy Spirit or the angels seeing that they are also like Satan and are not humankind ...are you capable of loving them


And what exactly is "humankind"?

Genesis 1:26
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

"Let us make man in OUR image"
"after our likeness"

Galatians 3:26
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

All children of God. What kind of children do cats have? What kind of children do dogs have?

Do cats not have children cat?
Do dogs not have children dogs?

Psalm 82:6
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Guess this verse shows what kind of "children" God has.

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Sun 10/07/12 12:19 PM
for clarification

in the above posts, I am using this definition of humankind:
the human race




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Sun 10/07/12 12:22 PM

for clarification

in the above posts, I am using this definition of humankind:
the human race






"Human" is a secular word. God never refers to us as "human". This also comes from people that lack the faith thereof. It separates us from God.

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Sun 10/07/12 12:40 PM


for clarification

in the above posts, I am using this definition of humankind:
the human race






"Human" is a secular word. God never refers to us as "human". This also comes from people that lack the faith thereof. It separates us from God.




the people of the bible had faith, they refer to humans as 'man', but it has the same connotation


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Sun 10/07/12 12:41 PM



for clarification

in the above posts, I am using this definition of humankind:
the human race






"Human" is a secular word. God never refers to us as "human". This also comes from people that lack the faith thereof. It separates us from God.




the people of the bible had faith, they refer to humans as 'man', but it has the same connotation




Ok, please share where it uses the term "man" in reference to both male and female please.

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Sun 10/07/12 12:50 PM




for clarification

in the above posts, I am using this definition of humankind:
the human race






"Human" is a secular word. God never refers to us as "human". This also comes from people that lack the faith thereof. It separates us from God.




the people of the bible had faith, they refer to humans as 'man', but it has the same connotation




Ok, please share where it uses the term "man" in reference to both male and female please.



in Genesis, he created man in his image, he created THEM

throughout the bible the word mankind is also used...

but its really a sematic issue and far from the op of Ghandi quotes.,,,,



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Sun 10/07/12 01:55 PM







its not for me to 'forgive' Satan, he has already been deemed unworthy of forgiveness and his eternity is sealed

people are worthy of love because none are all bad or all good and I am neither

Satan is ALL BAD< as evidenced by his fate being sealed with no room to be forgiven

comparing how I should feel about SATAN and how I feel about fellow humankind,, is comparing apples and oranges


wow MsHarmony,... now you saying the exact same bad and evil things that you complained about Gandhi saying in your first post of this thread ...that you claimed "that Christians such as yourself" can overlook

now do you see the hypocrisy



no

its like asking why I would support giving milk to cats but not spiders

its apples and oranges,,

I love fellow humankind, I have no love for SATAN,,,

nor do I feel the authority to 'forgive' him,,,


same hate message that Gandhi gave when he was comparing some people to animals...

God and the Angels are also not humankind? ..are you also incapable of loving them...



noone mentioned HATE,, I neither HATE nor LOVE satan



I love Jesus for he sacrificed great pains so I could be forgiven

I love God for he gave me life

Satan holds nowhere near the same significance or have earned anywhere near the same reverance,,,


you didn't answer the question about being able to love God Jesus the Holy Spirit or the angels seeing that they are also like Satan and are not humankind ...are you capable of loving them



God and Jesus, yes, I can love them for they are worthy through creating life and creating a path to forgiveness

I have neither love nor hate for angels,,,,


so you love God and Jesus only because they have done something for you...but have indifference to those that done nothing for you

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Sun 10/07/12 02:36 PM








its not for me to 'forgive' Satan, he has already been deemed unworthy of forgiveness and his eternity is sealed

people are worthy of love because none are all bad or all good and I am neither

Satan is ALL BAD< as evidenced by his fate being sealed with no room to be forgiven

comparing how I should feel about SATAN and how I feel about fellow humankind,, is comparing apples and oranges


wow MsHarmony,... now you saying the exact same bad and evil things that you complained about Gandhi saying in your first post of this thread ...that you claimed "that Christians such as yourself" can overlook

now do you see the hypocrisy



no

its like asking why I would support giving milk to cats but not spiders

its apples and oranges,,

I love fellow humankind, I have no love for SATAN,,,

nor do I feel the authority to 'forgive' him,,,


same hate message that Gandhi gave when he was comparing some people to animals...

God and the Angels are also not humankind? ..are you also incapable of loving them...



noone mentioned HATE,, I neither HATE nor LOVE satan



I love Jesus for he sacrificed great pains so I could be forgiven

I love God for he gave me life

Satan holds nowhere near the same significance or have earned anywhere near the same reverance,,,


you didn't answer the question about being able to love God Jesus the Holy Spirit or the angels seeing that they are also like Satan and are not humankind ...are you capable of loving them



God and Jesus, yes, I can love them for they are worthy through creating life and creating a path to forgiveness

I have neither love nor hate for angels,,,,


so you love God and Jesus only because they have done something for you...but have indifference to those that done nothing for you




I love my 'neighbor',, my fellow man, because I wish no harm coming to them, I Wish them as much as I wish for myself as a human

I dont love non HUMAN anything nor hate non humans,unless there is some personal relationship that sparks such love


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Sun 10/07/12 03:02 PM

I love my 'neighbor',, my fellow man, because I wish no harm coming to them, I Wish them as much as I wish for myself as a human

I dont love non HUMAN anything nor hate non humans,unless there is some personal relationship that sparks such love


MsHarmony...that's what I said, that you only love those non-human creatures like God and Jesus that you have benefited from but yet claim indifference to those that have done nothing for you

same message that Gandi had when he compared some people to non-human species

now I understand why you are so willing to look beyond his evil quotes because they seems to reflect your views

and why you refuse to show the love to Satan simply because he is not the same race as you

you're basically basing love on benefits and/or race

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Sun 10/07/12 03:04 PM


I love my 'neighbor',, my fellow man, because I wish no harm coming to them, I Wish them as much as I wish for myself as a human

I dont love non HUMAN anything nor hate non humans,unless there is some personal relationship that sparks such love


MsHarmony...that's what I said, that you only love those non-human creatures like God and Jesus that you have benefited from but yet claim indifference to those that have done nothing for you

same message that Gandi had when he compared some people to non-human species

now I understand why you are so willing to look beyond his evil quotes because they seems to reflect your views

and why you refuse to show the love to Satan simply because he is not the same race as you

you're basically basing love on benefits and/or race


except Ghandi actually diminished other HUMANS to sub human status

big difference

I refuse to love satan because I refuse to love evil,, satan is pure evil, something I dont believe is possible for any human walking the earth,,,

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Sun 10/07/12 03:17 PM

except Ghandi actually diminished other HUMANS to sub human status

big difference


wow.... so it's ok to not Love non humans that you haven't benefitted from but yet it's ok to love humans that have reduced other humans to sub-human status.....

Christian Love is sort of scary ...


I refuse to love satan because I refuse to love evil,, satan is pure evil, something I dont believe is possible for any human walking the earth,,,


and yet so far you fail to list anything to back up your claim as to why Satan is any more pure evil than other humans walking the Earth or has walked the Earth

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Sun 10/07/12 03:20 PM
question:

so it's ok to not Love non humans that you haven't benefitted from but yet it's ok to love humans that have reduced other humans to sub-human status.....





yes, its ok to not love THINGS, or non humans, its only not ok to not love your 'neighbor' (fellow man)


its not ok to HATE, but its ok to not LOVE as well,, there is another emotion called IMPARTIAL,,,,,not deserving of love nor hate,,,

I am impartial to SATAN, I leave him to God, and I work hard at avoiding his deception and trickery

including the idea that I should feel wrong for not 'loving' him,,,



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Sun 10/07/12 03:22 PM


except Ghandi actually diminished other HUMANS to sub human status

big difference


wow.... so it's ok to not Love non humans that you haven't benefitted from but yet it's ok to love humans that have reduced other humans to sub-human status.....

Christian Love is sort of scary ...


I refuse to love satan because I refuse to love evil,, satan is pure evil, something I dont believe is possible for any human walking the earth,,,


and yet so far you fail to list anything to back up your claim as to why Satan is any more pure evil than other humans walking the Earth or has walked the Earth



God gave him no option to be forgiven, and he has no goal other than to seperate man from God

no singular human has the power to seperate man from God, and I am of the highest doubt that any human is making it their sole purpose to do so,,,

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Sun 10/07/12 03:23 PM
all this off topic discussion because I chose to use a Ghandi quote in a thread titled

"Ghandi said"


....so interesting, and tiring,,,

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Sun 10/07/12 03:33 PM

question:

so it's ok to not Love non humans that you haven't benefitted from but yet it's ok to love humans that have reduced other humans to sub-human status.....





yes, its ok to not love THINGS, or non humans, its only not ok to not love your 'neighbor' (fellow man)


its not ok to HATE, but its ok to not LOVE as well,, there is another emotion called IMPARTIAL,,,,,not deserving of love nor hate,,,

I am impartial to SATAN, I leave him to God, and I work hard at avoiding his deception and trickery

including the idea that I should feel wrong for not 'loving' him,,,


you forgot to include that it's also ok for Christian to disobey the command from Jesus to Love thy enemy ...

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Sun 10/07/12 03:34 PM


question:

so it's ok to not Love non humans that you haven't benefitted from but yet it's ok to love humans that have reduced other humans to sub-human status.....





yes, its ok to not love THINGS, or non humans, its only not ok to not love your 'neighbor' (fellow man)


its not ok to HATE, but its ok to not LOVE as well,, there is another emotion called IMPARTIAL,,,,,not deserving of love nor hate,,,

I am impartial to SATAN, I leave him to God, and I work hard at avoiding his deception and trickery

including the idea that I should feel wrong for not 'loving' him,,,


you forgot to include that it's also ok for Christian to disobey the command from Jesus to Love thy enemy ...


It's not ok... it's never ok to disobey God.

And doesn't matter if one is Christian or not lol... we are ALL children of God, weather we're a Christian or other... God doesn't care about "religion". He cares about having a relationship with his children.

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Sun 10/07/12 03:37 PM



except Ghandi actually diminished other HUMANS to sub human status

big difference


wow.... so it's ok to not Love non humans that you haven't benefitted from but yet it's ok to love humans that have reduced other humans to sub-human status.....

Christian Love is sort of scary ...


I refuse to love satan because I refuse to love evil,, satan is pure evil, something I dont believe is possible for any human walking the earth,,,


and yet so far you fail to list anything to back up your claim as to why Satan is any more pure evil than other humans walking the Earth or has walked the Earth



God gave him no option to be forgiven, and he has no goal other than to seperate man from God

no singular human has the power to seperate man from God, and I am of the highest doubt that any human is making it their sole purpose to do so,,,


oh Jeez.,...another blame Satan sermon..

MsHarmony....what power do Satan has to seperate you from God that you didn't make the choice to give to him....

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Sun 10/07/12 03:41 PM

all this off topic discussion because I chose to use a Ghandi quote in a thread titled

"Ghandi said"


....so interesting, and tiring,,,


actually it was your quote as to "how Christians such as yourself" have some magical abilty to look beyond the bad things and see the good

well we now know that isn't true...especially for non-humans ...no wonder aliens never visit Earth...or hide when they do

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Sun 10/07/12 03:47 PM

It's not ok... it's never ok to disobey God.

And doesn't matter if one is Christian or not lol... we are ALL children of God, weather we're a Christian or other... God doesn't care about "religion". He cares about having a relationship with his children.


Cowboy...is the name of the birth Father on your birth certficate God?...if not then you are not his child ...perhaps you should go one the Maury Povich Show and opt for a DNA test instead of continuing your delusion that you are some sort of Demi-God

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Sun 10/07/12 03:53 PM


It's not ok... it's never ok to disobey God.

And doesn't matter if one is Christian or not lol... we are ALL children of God, weather we're a Christian or other... God doesn't care about "religion". He cares about having a relationship with his children.


Cowboy...is the name of the birth Father on your birth certficate God?...if not then you are not his child ...perhaps you should go one the Maury Povich Show and opt for a DNA test instead of continuing your delusion that you are some sort of Demi-God


Ah, but now you're speaking of apples and oranges. Talking about a spiritual matter comparing secular objects eg., birth certificate.