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Topic: is sex really necessary in a relationship?
ViaMusica's photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:08 PM



of course it's neccesary.you wouldn't eat french fries without ketchup would you?why have a relationship without sex in it?surprised

LOL... I'll take my fries without ketchup. But I'm not eating them in bed. I want to do more interesting things there. laugh



fries without ketchup is like tea without sugar.both are un-american noway surprised

*checks birth certificate* Hmmm... nope, still American. And I do drink tea without sugar... the same way I drink most things. :-)

Jtevans's photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:09 PM




of course it's neccesary.you wouldn't eat french fries without ketchup would you?why have a relationship without sex in it?surprised

LOL... I'll take my fries without ketchup. But I'm not eating them in bed. I want to do more interesting things there. laugh



fries without ketchup is like tea without sugar.both are un-american noway surprised


I don't eat ketchup with fries and I don't drink tea. But I do like sex. laugh


1 out of 3 aint bad :tongue:

Jtevans's photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:13 PM




of course it's neccesary.you wouldn't eat french fries without ketchup would you?why have a relationship without sex in it?surprised

LOL... I'll take my fries without ketchup. But I'm not eating them in bed. I want to do more interesting things there. laugh



fries without ketchup is like tea without sugar.both are un-american noway surprised

*checks birth certificate* Hmmm... nope, still American. And I do drink tea without sugar... the same way I drink most things. :-)



that's just gross sick ill

Toodygirl5's photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:27 PM

Sexual intercourse is not necessary in a dating relationship.

It is expected in a marital relationship unless one marriage partner is too disabled for it.



^^^^^^^ I agree with this!

ViaMusica's photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:29 PM

There is a difference between what a person desires in a relationship and what a person needs in a relationship.

When my late wife and I were dating, she and I desired to "go all the way", but she and I didn't need to do so. The two of us had a great romance that did not involve sexual intercourse. We were able to refrain from sexual intercourse until we were married.

I know plenty of happily-married couples who did as my late wife and I did during the dating stage of their relationships.

I realize that plenty of people here desire to have sexual intercourse without getting married first. I am not saying that they should wait until marriage. I don't hold anyone else accountable to the standards that I personally follow.

However, I object if someone tells single people that they must have sexual intercourse in order to have a romantic relationship, because I know that such a claim is false.

David, please don't do this again. No one here is telling others, "YOU need ___." We're all talking about what WE need, basically. And just as we are no position to tell you what you need in a relationship, neither are you in a position to tell us what we DON'T need. This is not an abstract blanket discussion of something where one size fits all. Additionally, why do you seem to think that marriage is not itself a relationship?

no photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:31 PM

There is a difference between what a person desires in a relationship and what a person needs in a relationship.

When my late wife and I were dating, she and I desired to "go all the way", but she and I didn't need to do so. The two of us had a great romance that did not involve sexual intercourse. We were able to refrain from sexual intercourse until we were married.

I know plenty of happily-married couples who did as my late wife and I did during the dating stage of their relationships.

I realize that plenty of people here desire to have sexual intercourse without getting married first. I am not saying that they should wait until marriage. I don't hold anyone else accountable to the standards that I personally follow.

However, I object if someone tells single people that they must have sexual intercourse in order to have a romantic relationship, because I know that such a claim is false.


That claim may be false for you, but not for someone else. You have your own opinions on sex, just as others do.

TBRich's photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:36 PM


There is a difference between what a person desires in a relationship and what a person needs in a relationship.

When my late wife and I were dating, she and I desired to "go all the way", but she and I didn't need to do so. The two of us had a great romance that did not involve sexual intercourse. We were able to refrain from sexual intercourse until we were married.

I know plenty of happily-married couples who did as my late wife and I did during the dating stage of their relationships.

I realize that plenty of people here desire to have sexual intercourse without getting married first. I am not saying that they should wait until marriage. I don't hold anyone else accountable to the standards that I personally follow.

However, I object if someone tells single people that they must have sexual intercourse in order to have a romantic relationship, because I know that such a claim is false.

David, please don't do this again. No one here is telling others, "YOU need ___." We're all talking about what WE need, basically. And just as we are no position to tell you what you need in a relationship, neither are you in a position to tell us what we DON'T need. This is not an abstract blanket discussion of something where one size fits all. Additionally, why do you seem to think that marriage is not itself a relationship?


In the words of the immortal Isley brothers: "Its your thang, do what you wanna do. I can't tell ya who to sock it to."

TawtStrat's photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:48 PM
I would just be concerned that someone that I only went out with a few times was to get the impression that we were in a relationship from reading this.
I honestly have never heard the term "dating relationship" before and I think that he just made it up.

ViaMusica's photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:54 PM
Edited by ViaMusica on Thu 04/04/13 12:56 PM

I would just be concerned that someone that I only went out with a few times was to get the impression that we were in a relationship from reading this.
I honestly have never heard the term "dating relationship" before and I think that he just made it up.


No, it's a common term in the US. It refers to a relationship where you're dating someone but you aren't married to them nor engaged to marry them, and you aren't living with them either. The relationship might be exclusive or nonexclusive, and duration isn't really a factor.

no photo
Thu 04/04/13 12:56 PM

I would just be concerned that someone that I only went out with a few times was to get the impression that we were in a relationship from reading this.
I honestly have never heard the term "dating relationship" before and I think that he just made it up.



It is a very common term here. A lot of people hold different opinions on what a relationship actually is. I know several people in "dating relationships", and even then I am sure several of them are partaking in sex. Of course not everyone does, and that is fine, it is whatever works for them, just like any other pair of people that consider themselves in some sort of relationship.

If I am in a committed relationship with someone, then I would expect to be able to make love to that person. But I accept not everyone thinks like me.

More than anything else it baffles me how other people cannot understand that as well.

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Thu 04/04/13 01:09 PM


I would just be concerned that someone that I only went out with a few times was to get the impression that we were in a relationship from reading this.
I honestly have never heard the term "dating relationship" before and I think that he just made it up.


No, it's a common term in the US. It refers to a relationship where you're dating someone but you aren't married to them nor engaged to marry them, and you aren't living with them either. The relationship might be exclusive or nonexclusive, and duration isn't really a factor.


Right, I hope that doesn't catch on over here then.

What's a casual relationship then? What's a serious relationship? Why do you Americans have to complicate things so much? Nobody here refers to it as a "relationship" when they are married. They just say that they are in a marriage or in a relationship and then everybody knows what you are talking about and there's no need to have endless arguments about what the word means.

ViaMusica's photo
Thu 04/04/13 01:59 PM
Edited by ViaMusica on Thu 04/04/13 02:01 PM



I would just be concerned that someone that I only went out with a few times was to get the impression that we were in a relationship from reading this.
I honestly have never heard the term "dating relationship" before and I think that he just made it up.


No, it's a common term in the US. It refers to a relationship where you're dating someone but you aren't married to them nor engaged to marry them, and you aren't living with them either. The relationship might be exclusive or nonexclusive, and duration isn't really a factor.


Right, I hope that doesn't catch on over here then.

What's a casual relationship then? What's a serious relationship? Why do you Americans have to complicate things so much? Nobody here refers to it as a "relationship" when they are married. They just say that they are in a marriage or in a relationship and then everybody knows what you are talking about and there's no need to have endless arguments about what the word means.

Honestly, a casual relationship is also a dating relationship. A serious relationship is generally a committed relationship, and marriage is a form of relationship (relationships don't end at marriage, you know). As for any of this "catching on" in the UK or causing confusion... well, I have several friends over there and this isn't foreign OR confusing terminology to any of them, as they use it themselves. So I suspect you're just being difficult.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 04/04/13 02:04 PM




I would just be concerned that someone that I only went out with a few times was to get the impression that we were in a relationship from reading this.
I honestly have never heard the term "dating relationship" before and I think that he just made it up.


No, it's a common term in the US. It refers to a relationship where you're dating someone but you aren't married to them nor engaged to marry them, and you aren't living with them either. The relationship might be exclusive or nonexclusive, and duration isn't really a factor.


Right, I hope that doesn't catch on over here then.

What's a casual relationship then? What's a serious relationship? Why do you Americans have to complicate things so much? Nobody here refers to it as a "relationship" when they are married. They just say that they are in a marriage or in a relationship and then everybody knows what you are talking about and there's no need to have endless arguments about what the word means.

Honestly, a casual relationship is also a dating relationship. A serious relationship is generally a committed relationship, and marriage is a form of relationship (relationships don't end at marriage, you know). As for any of this "catching on" in the UK or causing confusion... well, I have several friends over there and this isn't foreign OR confusing terminology to any of them, as they use it themselves. So I suspect you're just being difficult.


Not really... a relationship is a relationship... people want to define it further, start making up different types...

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/04/13 02:16 PM
semantic debates can be irritating or interesting, depending upon what type of day one is having,,lol

im having a great day,, let me add


there are all types of relationships

family relationships
friendships
professional relationship
platonic relationship
sexual relationship

people can have platonic or sexual friendships
well, technically, they an also have platonic or sexual family relationships (though its not my cup of tea, consenting adults and all)

they can have professional relationships which are platonic or sexual

people can make a commitment in MARRIAGE for a marital relationship
or they can just agree to be exclusive for a serious relationship
or they can just get from each other what they want when they want with no further contribution to the others life,, for a casual relationship


and that concludes my melee of potential types of relationships,,,lol

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 04/04/13 03:58 PM
I am merely pointing out that it is possible for a single adult to experience a meaningful romance that doesn't include sexual intercourse.


TawtStrat's photo
Thu 04/04/13 04:19 PM




I would just be concerned that someone that I only went out with a few times was to get the impression that we were in a relationship from reading this.
I honestly have never heard the term "dating relationship" before and I think that he just made it up.


No, it's a common term in the US. It refers to a relationship where you're dating someone but you aren't married to them nor engaged to marry them, and you aren't living with them either. The relationship might be exclusive or nonexclusive, and duration isn't really a factor.


Right, I hope that doesn't catch on over here then.

What's a casual relationship then? What's a serious relationship? Why do you Americans have to complicate things so much? Nobody here refers to it as a "relationship" when they are married. They just say that they are in a marriage or in a relationship and then everybody knows what you are talking about and there's no need to have endless arguments about what the word means.

Honestly, a casual relationship is also a dating relationship. A serious relationship is generally a committed relationship, and marriage is a form of relationship (relationships don't end at marriage, you know). As for any of this "catching on" in the UK or causing confusion... well, I have several friends over there and this isn't foreign OR confusing terminology to any of them, as they use it themselves. So I suspect you're just being difficult.


No, I'm not and I didn't say that people here don't talk about casual or serious relationships. I have just never heard the term "dating relationship" before.

To me if someone says that they are in a relationship that does strongly imply that they mean that they have a partner that they do have sex with among other things. No British person would call it a "relationship" if they were just dating.

ViaMusica's photo
Thu 04/04/13 04:26 PM

I am merely pointing out that it is possible for a single adult to experience a meaningful romance that doesn't include sexual intercourse.



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ViaMusica's photo
Thu 04/04/13 04:33 PM
Edited by ViaMusica on Thu 04/04/13 04:36 PM

To me if someone says that they are in a relationship that does strongly imply that they mean that they have a partner that they do have sex with among other things. No British person would call it a "relationship" if they were just dating.

Well, what the hell constitutes a "relationship" in your particular corner of the UK, then? Two people who get together for sex on a regular basis but never actually go out and do other things together like dining out or seeing films or whatever? (Hint: Over here, going out and doing something with a romantic partner is called "going on a date" and people who go on dates together -- with or without sex -- are said to be dating (unless they're married to each other or living together, in which case the status marriage or living-together supersedes the status of dating.)

Over here, we wouldn't call just sex without other activities a relationship.

s1owhand's photo
Thu 04/04/13 04:38 PM
Sexuality like everything else is very individual.

For some people, sex once or twice a week is very frequent.
For others, sex once or twice a week would seem very infrequent.

What is satisfying or acceptable is purely a personal preference.

There are many friendships which can be extremely close without sex
but these are nonsexual relationships.

gc49's photo
Thu 04/04/13 04:40 PM
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