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If the event were such an historical important event, there would have been more evidence outside of scripture and especially more historical evidence. Some ancient texts had information contrary to the Bible's and guess what? They were rejected because they did not fit the bill for forming the religion that Rome wanted to create. several years ago I wrote about what was outside the scriptures and I showed where their are documents that a Roman Historian wrote about Yahshua and how special and different he was than the Jews |
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If the event were such an historical important event, there would have been more evidence outside of scripture and especially more historical evidence. Some ancient texts had information contrary to the Bible's and guess what? They were rejected because they did not fit the bill for forming the religion that Rome wanted to create. several years ago I wrote about what was outside the scriptures and I showed where their are documents that a Roman Historian wrote about Yahshua and how special and different he was than the Jews Yes and I am sure there are only one or maybe two alleged "roman historians" who did mention something about a Crucifixion. But Crucifixions were not that uncommon anyway. There is no way to tell who he was talking about. Not only that, historians cannot even place an accurate date on when Jesus or Yahshua or what ever name you want to call him even lived. |
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If the event were such an historical important event, there would have been more evidence outside of scripture and especially more historical evidence. Some ancient texts had information contrary to the Bible's and guess what? They were rejected because they did not fit the bill for forming the religion that Rome wanted to create. several years ago I wrote about what was outside the scriptures and I showed where their are documents that a Roman Historian wrote about Yahshua and how special and different he was than the Jews Yes and I am sure there are only one or maybe two alleged "roman historians" who did mention something about a Crucifixion. But Crucifixions were not that uncommon anyway. There is no way to tell who he was talking about. Not only that, historians cannot even place an accurate date on when Jesus or Yahshua or what ever name you want to call him even lived. No he spoke of the Jews Messiah Yahshua. He left no doubt who he was talking about |
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If the event were such an historical important event, there would have been more evidence outside of scripture and especially more historical evidence. Some ancient texts had information contrary to the Bible's and guess what? They were rejected because they did not fit the bill for forming the religion that Rome wanted to create. several years ago I wrote about what was outside the scriptures and I showed where their are documents that a Roman Historian wrote about Yahshua and how special and different he was than the Jews Yes and I am sure there are only one or maybe two alleged "roman historians" who did mention something about a Crucifixion. But Crucifixions were not that uncommon anyway. There is no way to tell who he was talking about. Not only that, historians cannot even place an accurate date on when Jesus or Yahshua or what ever name you want to call him even lived. No he spoke of the Jews Messiah Yahshua. He left no doubt who he was talking about So which one was he and how long after the death of Jesus was this account written? 200 years? |
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If the event were such an historical important event, there would have been more evidence outside of scripture and especially more historical evidence. Some ancient texts had information contrary to the Bible's and guess what? They were rejected because they did not fit the bill for forming the religion that Rome wanted to create. several years ago I wrote about what was outside the scriptures and I showed where their are documents that a Roman Historian wrote about Yahshua and how special and different he was than the Jews Yes and I am sure there are only one or maybe two alleged "roman historians" who did mention something about a Crucifixion. But Crucifixions were not that uncommon anyway. There is no way to tell who he was talking about. Not only that, historians cannot even place an accurate date on when Jesus or Yahshua or what ever name you want to call him even lived. No he spoke of the Jews Messiah Yahshua. He left no doubt who he was talking about So which one was he and how long after the death of Jesus was this account written? 200 years? all I know is what I read and posted on these boards was a 1st person account that it was written by a roman who actually saw Yahshua and was very impressed with him and did not understand why the jews would want one of their own done away with |
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If the event were such an historical important event, there would have been more evidence outside of scripture and especially more historical evidence. Some ancient texts had information contrary to the Bible's and guess what? They were rejected because they did not fit the bill for forming the religion that Rome wanted to create. several years ago I wrote about what was outside the scriptures and I showed where their are documents that a Roman Historian wrote about Yahshua and how special and different he was than the Jews Yes and I am sure there are only one or maybe two alleged "roman historians" who did mention something about a Crucifixion. But Crucifixions were not that uncommon anyway. There is no way to tell who he was talking about. Not only that, historians cannot even place an accurate date on when Jesus or Yahshua or what ever name you want to call him even lived. No he spoke of the Jews Messiah Yahshua. He left no doubt who he was talking about So which one was he and how long after the death of Jesus was this account written? 200 years? all I know is what I read and posted on these boards was a 1st person account that it was written by a roman who actually saw Yahshua and was very impressed with him and did not understand why the jews would want one of their own done away with Sound interesting, but one would need to know the name of this historian. |
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If the event were such an historical important event, there would have been more evidence outside of scripture and especially more historical evidence. Some ancient texts had information contrary to the Bible's and guess what? They were rejected because they did not fit the bill for forming the religion that Rome wanted to create. several years ago I wrote about what was outside the scriptures and I showed where their are documents that a Roman Historian wrote about Yahshua and how special and different he was than the Jews Yes and I am sure there are only one or maybe two alleged "roman historians" who did mention something about a Crucifixion. But Crucifixions were not that uncommon anyway. There is no way to tell who he was talking about. Not only that, historians cannot even place an accurate date on when Jesus or Yahshua or what ever name you want to call him even lived. No he spoke of the Jews Messiah Yahshua. He left no doubt who he was talking about So which one was he and how long after the death of Jesus was this account written? 200 years? all I know is what I read and posted on these boards was a 1st person account that it was written by a roman who actually saw Yahshua and was very impressed with him and did not understand why the jews would want one of their own done away with Sound interesting, but one would need to know the name of this historian. yea I think all posts r kept on here I do not know maybe I can search for it. what I do remember I was discussing this with a guy I forgot his handle but he was gray haired with a neatly trimmed beard and wore a little like round biker hat.. I know u know who he is.. he left and told me I should leave also.. maybe u remember he said prophesy was fulfilled in 70 ad that revelations speaks about with Nero being the man of sin |
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If the event were such an historical important event, there would have been more evidence outside of scripture and especially more historical evidence. Some ancient texts had information contrary to the Bible's and guess what? They were rejected because they did not fit the bill for forming the religion that Rome wanted to create. several years ago I wrote about what was outside the scriptures and I showed where their are documents that a Roman Historian wrote about Yahshua and how special and different he was than the Jews Yes and I am sure there are only one or maybe two alleged "roman historians" who did mention something about a Crucifixion. But Crucifixions were not that uncommon anyway. There is no way to tell who he was talking about. Not only that, historians cannot even place an accurate date on when Jesus or Yahshua or what ever name you want to call him even lived. No he spoke of the Jews Messiah Yahshua. He left no doubt who he was talking about So which one was he and how long after the death of Jesus was this account written? 200 years? all I know is what I read and posted on these boards was a 1st person account that it was written by a roman who actually saw Yahshua and was very impressed with him and did not understand why the jews would want one of their own done away with Sound interesting, but one would need to know the name of this historian. yea I think all posts r kept on here I do not know maybe I can search for it. what I do remember I was discussing this with a guy I forgot his handle but he was gray haired with a neatly trimmed beard and wore a little like round biker hat.. I know u know who he is.. he left and told me I should leave also.. maybe u remember he said prophesy was fulfilled in 70 ad that revelations speaks about with Nero being the man of sin Yep I remember him. He had some very interesting information. |
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The basis of religion and believing in Jesus is fear.... fear of going to hell (another man made myth--hell)
fear of what happens to us when we die. fear of God punishing us... (many examples especially in the old testament) all of the stories, myths, fairytales about Jesus, including Jesus is God, were written hundreds of years after his death by primitive hut dwellers.... look at the big picture, Jesus is just another God in a long line of 2800 man-made Gods... during Jesus time, mankind was moving from polytheism to monotheism.... there were many "messiahs" ( 7 or 8 major ones) during Jesus life... Constantine helped Christianity become the big religion by making it the official religion of Rome. |
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The basis of religion and believing in Jesus is fear.... fear of going to hell (another man made myth--hell) fear of what happens to us when we die. fear of God punishing us... (many examples especially in the old testament) all of the stories, myths, fairytales about Jesus, including Jesus is God, were written hundreds of years after his death by primitive hut dwellers.... look at the big picture, Jesus is just another God in a long line of 2800 man-made Gods... during Jesus time, mankind was moving from polytheism to monotheism.... there were many "messiahs" ( 7 or 8 major ones) during Jesus life... Constantine helped Christianity become the big religion by making it the official religion of Rome. Loving and obeying God isn't done to save one's ownself from hell. Hell was not made for man, God told us this himself. Obeying God is for just that, obeying God and displaying our love for God through our actions, "obedience". Again, it is not done to save one's own self. The actions therein would be done in vein and not truly heartfelt. |
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The basis of religion and believing in Jesus is fear.... fear of going to hell (another man made myth--hell) fear of what happens to us when we die. fear of God punishing us... (many examples especially in the old testament) all of the stories, myths, fairytales about Jesus, including Jesus is God, were written hundreds of years after his death by primitive hut dwellers.... look at the big picture, Jesus is just another God in a long line of 2800 man-made Gods... during Jesus time, mankind was moving from polytheism to monotheism.... there were many "messiahs" ( 7 or 8 major ones) during Jesus life... Constantine helped Christianity become the big religion by making it the official religion of Rome. Just curious, if you dont believe in Jesus, how can you explain the basis of why others do? |
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The basis of religion and believing in Jesus is fear.... fear of going to hell (another man made myth--hell) fear of what happens to us when we die. fear of God punishing us... (many examples especially in the old testament) all of the stories, myths, fairytales about Jesus, including Jesus is God, were written hundreds of years after his death by primitive hut dwellers.... look at the big picture, Jesus is just another God in a long line of 2800 man-made Gods... during Jesus time, mankind was moving from polytheism to monotheism.... there were many "messiahs" ( 7 or 8 major ones) during Jesus life... Constantine helped Christianity become the big religion by making it the official religion of Rome. Just curious, if you dont believe in Jesus, how can you explain the basis of why others do? It's called psychology, but I'm sure you think that's the work of the devil as well; for anything that speaks against god is the work of the devil. Let's just push aside the last 1-200 years of scientific studies during man's most enlightened era to bring back the 1000's of years worth of baseless fairy tails that were dreamed up during the century's that man was still ignorant and developing ideas for what they could not understand. Look at history, man thought god was responsible for the rising of the sun in the day and the moon coming out at night and I'm sure numerous other things that have been perfectly scientifically explained at this point. Man has a long history of using a non-existence(god) to explain things that they cannot understand. We constantly strive to expand our intellect, we feel a sense of stupidity and inferiority if we cannot explain something, therefore if something cannot possibly be explained with the knowledge we currently have access to, we attach that misunderstanding to being "an act of god". "Sound interesting, but one would need to know the name of this historian." That's funny, someone tells a baseless myth hundreds of years ago and he's called a "historian" if the same man told his story in this day and age he'd be called a lunatic; that or a science fiction writer. |
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The basis of religion and believing in Jesus is fear.... fear of going to hell (another man made myth--hell) fear of what happens to us when we die. fear of God punishing us... (many examples especially in the old testament) all of the stories, myths, fairytales about Jesus, including Jesus is God, were written hundreds of years after his death by primitive hut dwellers.... look at the big picture, Jesus is just another God in a long line of 2800 man-made Gods... during Jesus time, mankind was moving from polytheism to monotheism.... there were many "messiahs" ( 7 or 8 major ones) during Jesus life... Constantine helped Christianity become the big religion by making it the official religion of Rome. Just curious, if you dont believe in Jesus, how can you explain the basis of why others do? It's called psychology, but I'm sure you think that's the work of the devil as well; for anything that speaks against god is the work of the devil. Let's just push aside the last 1-200 years of scientific studies during man's most enlightened era to bring back the 1000's of years worth of baseless fairy tails that were dreamed up during the century's that man was still ignorant and developing ideas for what they could not understand. Look at history, man thought god was responsible for the rising of the sun in the day and the moon coming out at night and I'm sure numerous other things that have been perfectly scientifically explained at this point. Man has a long history of using a non-existence(god) to explain things that they cannot understand. We constantly strive to expand our intellect, we feel a sense of stupidity and inferiority if we cannot explain something, therefore if something cannot possibly be explained with the knowledge we currently have access to, we attach that misunderstanding to being "an act of god". "Sound interesting, but one would need to know the name of this historian." That's funny, someone tells a baseless myth hundreds of years ago and he's called a "historian" if the same man told his story in this day and age he'd be called a lunatic; that or a science fiction writer. But God does make the sun come up, go down and the moon show. He may not physically do it every day, but he created the world and the universe in the way it does do that. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 06/19/13 11:03 AM
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The basis of religion and believing in Jesus is fear.... fear of going to hell (another man made myth--hell) fear of what happens to us when we die. fear of God punishing us... (many examples especially in the old testament) all of the stories, myths, fairytales about Jesus, including Jesus is God, were written hundreds of years after his death by primitive hut dwellers.... look at the big picture, Jesus is just another God in a long line of 2800 man-made Gods... during Jesus time, mankind was moving from polytheism to monotheism.... there were many "messiahs" ( 7 or 8 major ones) during Jesus life... Constantine helped Christianity become the big religion by making it the official religion of Rome. Just curious, if you dont believe in Jesus, how can you explain the basis of why others do? It's called psychology, but I'm sure you think that's the work of the devil as well; for anything that speaks against god is the work of the devil. Let's just push aside the last 1-200 years of scientific studies during man's most enlightened era to bring back the 1000's of years worth of baseless fairy tails that were dreamed up during the century's that man was still ignorant and developing ideas for what they could not understand. Look at history, man thought god was responsible for the rising of the sun in the day and the moon coming out at night and I'm sure numerous other things that have been perfectly scientifically explained at this point. Man has a long history of using a non-existence(god) to explain things that they cannot understand. We constantly strive to expand our intellect, we feel a sense of stupidity and inferiority if we cannot explain something, therefore if something cannot possibly be explained with the knowledge we currently have access to, we attach that misunderstanding to being "an act of god". "Sound interesting, but one would need to know the name of this historian." That's funny, someone tells a baseless myth hundreds of years ago and he's called a "historian" if the same man told his story in this day and age he'd be called a lunatic; that or a science fiction writer.  
So true. There were a lot of stories written 2000 years ago. Because not many people knew how to read or write, the written word was almost considered sacred and even magical. Truth is, they wrote fiction to peddle their religions. |
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The wide eyed gullible innocent "children of God" who still believe in 2000 year old myths should attempt to open their minds and hearts and grow up. People need to come out of the fog of religion and seek the God within them. God does not exist "out there" our "up there." God has not pledged support for any particular religious cult or chosen people.
God does not care who wins any football game or war. Religions are created by men. The idea of a single supreme deity as described by religions was created by men. Life is wondrous, perhaps divine and mysterious, but no one has ever seen or heard from this entity called God that they claim exists. Religion is a cult that says certain things to people about remaining faithful to this big lie and a cult that peddles guilt for having doubts about illogical stories. Don't fall for that mind control. Its a cult. Its worse. Its hypnotism. |
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The wide eyed gullible innocent "children of God" who still believe in 2000 year old myths should attempt to open their minds and hearts and grow up. People need to come out of the fog of religion and seek the God within them. God does not exist "out there" our "up there." God has not pledged support for any particular religious cult or chosen people. God does not care who wins any football game or war. Religions are created by men. The idea of a single supreme deity as described by religions was created by men. Life is wondrous, perhaps divine and mysterious, but no one has ever seen or heard from this entity called God that they claim exists. Religion is a cult that says certain things to people about remaining faithful to this big lie and a cult that peddles guilt for having doubts about illogical stories. Don't fall for that mind control. Its a cult. Its worse. Its hypnotism. The wide eyed gullible innocent "children of God" who still believe in 2000 year old myths should attempt to open their minds and hearts and grow up. And you know they are myths how? Is it because they were done 2000 years ago? So with that, you're saying in 2000 years from now "assuming the world is around then" anything done today and documented will be nothing more then a myth? God does not care who wins any football game or war. Entirely agree. He couldn't care less about football I would say and war is against his will. Religions are created by men. Again, entirely agree with you. Religion is a cult that says certain things to people about remaining faithful to this big lie and a cult that peddles guilt for having doubts about illogical stories. But how do you know it's a lie? And if you wish to put us in the "cult" category, the same could be said about any and all the people that believe as you do. With your definition of "cult" it's obvious that you believe any and all people that think/believe the same are a cult. So therefore you're placing yourself in a cult as well with the other's that believe/think as you. |
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But how do you know it's a lie? And if you wish to put us in the "cult" category, the same could be said about any and all the people that believe as you do. With your definition of "cult" it's obvious that you believe any and all people that think/believe the same are a cult. So therefore you're placing yourself in a cult as well with the other's that believe/think as you.
I know it is a lie because I have learned to recognize what is true. Most cults mix some wisdom and truth with their lies to make them appealing. The truth is, they do not know more than anyone else. As for my "cult" I don't know anyone who thinks or believes as I do. |
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The wide eyed gullible innocent "children of God" who still believe in 2000 year old myths should attempt to open their minds and hearts and grow up. People need to come out of the fog of religion and seek the God within them. God does not exist "out there" our "up there." God has not pledged support for any particular religious cult or chosen people. God does not care who wins any football game or war. Religions are created by men. The idea of a single supreme deity as described by religions was created by men. Life is wondrous, perhaps divine and mysterious, but no one has ever seen or heard from this entity called God that they claim exists. Religion is a cult that says certain things to people about remaining faithful to this big lie and a cult that peddles guilt for having doubts about illogical stories. Don't fall for that mind control. Its a cult. Its worse. Its hypnotism. Hypnotism so u agree Phycology is worse than Religion.. Glad to see that as I see it as witchcraft which the bible said would rule the people as the New religion |
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The wide eyed gullible innocent "children of God" who still believe in 2000 year old myths should attempt to open their minds and hearts and grow up. People need to come out of the fog of religion and seek the God within them. God does not exist "out there" our "up there." God has not pledged support for any particular religious cult or chosen people. God does not care who wins any football game or war. Religions are created by men. The idea of a single supreme deity as described by religions was created by men. Life is wondrous, perhaps divine and mysterious, but no one has ever seen or heard from this entity called God that they claim exists. Religion is a cult that says certain things to people about remaining faithful to this big lie and a cult that peddles guilt for having doubts about illogical stories. Don't fall for that mind control. Its a cult. Its worse. Its hypnotism. Hypnotism so u agree Phycology is worse than Religion.. Glad to see that as I see it as witchcraft which the bible said would rule the people as the New religion Hypnotism is what I call hacking reality. It is not 'evil' it is just a tool that can be used in this mind created reality. It can be used for anything. It involves attention and belief and the power of the mind to manifest reality. Religions use it all the time. Governments use it to manipulate the public. Religions are the worst abusers of hypnotizing groups. Psychology itself only scratches the surface of the inner workings of the mind and consciousness. Being a 'science' they do not work much into the consciousness or spiritual aspect, but they do use hypnotism. Pentecostal ramblings and speaking in tongues is hypnotism. |
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It is a good idea to learn as much as possible about hypnotism and how it works. When you do, you will see it being used everywhere, everyday in your daily life. When you become aware of what it is, then you can have more power over your life by paying attention to what you place your attention on, and paying attention to how you use words, and how people will use hypnotism to manipulate you.
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