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LOL Denial is not just a river in Egypt! How about this blurb from Yale University? Home About YSM Get Involved Subscriptions Advertisements YSM Archive Essay Contest Contact Us Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? ARASH FEREYDOONI MARCH 14, 2012 2 Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought. Although Darwin’s theory of natural selection predicts an evolutionary disadvantage for animals that fail to pass along their traits through reproduction with the opposite sex, the validity of this part of his theory has been questioned with the discoveries of homosexual behavior in more than 10% of prevailing species throughout the world. Human beings are not the only animals to exhibit homosexual behavior. Photo courtesy of the globalanimal.org. Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide. For instance, observations indicate that Humboldt, King, Gentoo, and Adélie penguins of the same sex engage in “mating rituals like entwining their necks and vocalizing to one another.” In addition, male giraffes have also been observed engaging in homosexual behavior by rubbing their necks against each others’ bodies while ignoring the females. Yet another example is lizards of the genus Teiidae, which can copulate with both male and female mates. Biologists Nathan W. Bailey and Marlene Zuk from the University of California, Riverside have investigated the evolutionary consequences and implications of same-sex behavior, and their findings demonstrate benefits to what seems to be an evolutionary paradox. For example, their studies of the Laysan albatross show that female-female pairing can increase fitness by taking advantage of the excess of females and shortage of males in the population and provide superior care for offspring. Moreover, same-sex pairing in many species actually alleviates the likelihood of divorce and curtails the pressure on the opposite sex by allowing members to exhibit more flexibility to form partnerships, which in turn strengthens social bonds and reduces competition. Thus, not only do animals exhibit homosexuality, but the existence of this behavior is quite prevalent and may also confer certain evolutionary advantages. Or are the gays everywhere posting their lies. No one here thinks or cares if you are gay, we will love you all the same. However, I also think Ms Harmoney also wanted some understanding of the concept of Intention, as she seems to not understand it (or its role in the Zimmerman trial) However, I now have to go and take massive dump, during which I also plan to get lost in a good spy thriller. its all propaganda... they have no way of knowing that an animal is gay or not... sex with animals is just instinct, not for enjoyment, and i've seen puppies humps anything they can get their front paws around...including other male dogs, cats, rabbits, stuffed animals, your leg...the list is quite long... exhibiting gay behavior is not the same thing as being gay... you are reading way to much into it, and they slanted the data and analysis of the data to make it look like gaydom, but it's nothing even close... BTW, the article you posted here is nothing but speculation... no science what so ever... |
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Aha, now we come to Ms Harm-on-me's point- intention, as you appear to be confusing homosexual behaviour with homosexuality. Most animals will readily mate during rutting season, ergo sex play occurring during non-rutting season is viewed as the intent of pleasure. Also, in terms of eco-systems, as you know lemmings do not commit mass suicide, your friend Mr. Disney had them pushed off that cliff in his movie. What lemmings will do is turn to homosexual behaviour.
However, I do not understand this obsession with homosexuality and Jews on the religious forum. Let me give an analogy: Dr. Ken Hovind is a major proponent of Intelligent Design. When one hears the phrase "Dr. Ken Hovind" one assumes an actual doctorate degree is involved, not as it turns out a certificate in Christian Education from the Patriot Bible College. This makes actual debate and discussion somewhat difficult for me. So I will remain a gadfly and Devil's Advocate. Which reminds me of a story..... |
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msharmony
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LOL Denial is not just a river in Egypt! How about this blurb from Yale University? Home About YSM Get Involved Subscriptions Advertisements YSM Archive Essay Contest Contact Us Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? ARASH FEREYDOONI MARCH 14, 2012 2 Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought. Although Darwin’s theory of natural selection predicts an evolutionary disadvantage for animals that fail to pass along their traits through reproduction with the opposite sex, the validity of this part of his theory has been questioned with the discoveries of homosexual behavior in more than 10% of prevailing species throughout the world. Human beings are not the only animals to exhibit homosexual behavior. Photo courtesy of the globalanimal.org. Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide. For instance, observations indicate that Humboldt, King, Gentoo, and Adélie penguins of the same sex engage in “mating rituals like entwining their necks and vocalizing to one another.” In addition, male giraffes have also been observed engaging in homosexual behavior by rubbing their necks against each others’ bodies while ignoring the females. Yet another example is lizards of the genus Teiidae, which can copulate with both male and female mates. Biologists Nathan W. Bailey and Marlene Zuk from the University of California, Riverside have investigated the evolutionary consequences and implications of same-sex behavior, and their findings demonstrate benefits to what seems to be an evolutionary paradox. For example, their studies of the Laysan albatross show that female-female pairing can increase fitness by taking advantage of the excess of females and shortage of males in the population and provide superior care for offspring. Moreover, same-sex pairing in many species actually alleviates the likelihood of divorce and curtails the pressure on the opposite sex by allowing members to exhibit more flexibility to form partnerships, which in turn strengthens social bonds and reduces competition. Thus, not only do animals exhibit homosexuality, but the existence of this behavior is quite prevalent and may also confer certain evolutionary advantages. Or are the gays everywhere posting their lies. No one here thinks or cares if you are gay, we will love you all the same. However, I also think Ms Harmoney also wanted some understanding of the concept of Intention, as she seems to not understand it (or its role in the Zimmerman trial) However, I now have to go and take massive dump, during which I also plan to get lost in a good spy thriller. its all propaganda... they have no way of knowing that an animal is gay or not... sex with animals is just instinct, not for enjoyment, and i've seen puppies humps anything they can get their front paws around...including other male dogs, cats, rabbits, stuffed animals, your leg...the list is quite long... exhibiting gay behavior is not the same thing as being gay... you are reading way to much into it, and they slanted the data and analysis of the data to make it look like gaydom, but it's nothing even close... BTW, the article you posted here is nothing but speculation... no science what so ever... you pretty much read my mind there seems a lot of assumption but no scientific 'proof' in the explanation given above,,, and what is described as 'homosexual behavior' is actually also known as being affectionate or having physical contact REGARDLESS of gender a lot of interesting information that unfortunately falls short in its logic and conclusion ,,,,still not very convincing to me that the motive of a male animal penetrating another male is 'pleasure' or that this somehow would make the behavior natural for humans,,,, but in any case,,carry on, back to how God is so awful and He and his miracles are probably our imagination (im sure atheists have many reasons why our logic seems like a stretch too,,, interesting parallel) |
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LOL Denial is not just a river in Egypt! How about this blurb from Yale University? Home About YSM Get Involved Subscriptions Advertisements YSM Archive Essay Contest Contact Us Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? ARASH FEREYDOONI MARCH 14, 2012 2 Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought. Although Darwin’s theory of natural selection predicts an evolutionary disadvantage for animals that fail to pass along their traits through reproduction with the opposite sex, the validity of this part of his theory has been questioned with the discoveries of homosexual behavior in more than 10% of prevailing species throughout the world. Human beings are not the only animals to exhibit homosexual behavior. Photo courtesy of the globalanimal.org. Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide. For instance, observations indicate that Humboldt, King, Gentoo, and Adélie penguins of the same sex engage in “mating rituals like entwining their necks and vocalizing to one another.” In addition, male giraffes have also been observed engaging in homosexual behavior by rubbing their necks against each others’ bodies while ignoring the females. Yet another example is lizards of the genus Teiidae, which can copulate with both male and female mates. Biologists Nathan W. Bailey and Marlene Zuk from the University of California, Riverside have investigated the evolutionary consequences and implications of same-sex behavior, and their findings demonstrate benefits to what seems to be an evolutionary paradox. For example, their studies of the Laysan albatross show that female-female pairing can increase fitness by taking advantage of the excess of females and shortage of males in the population and provide superior care for offspring. Moreover, same-sex pairing in many species actually alleviates the likelihood of divorce and curtails the pressure on the opposite sex by allowing members to exhibit more flexibility to form partnerships, which in turn strengthens social bonds and reduces competition. Thus, not only do animals exhibit homosexuality, but the existence of this behavior is quite prevalent and may also confer certain evolutionary advantages. Or are the gays everywhere posting their lies. No one here thinks or cares if you are gay, we will love you all the same. However, I also think Ms Harmoney also wanted some understanding of the concept of Intention, as she seems to not understand it (or its role in the Zimmerman trial) However, I now have to go and take massive dump, during which I also plan to get lost in a good spy thriller. its all propaganda... they have no way of knowing that an animal is gay or not... sex with animals is just instinct, not for enjoyment, and i've seen puppies humps anything they can get their front paws around...including other male dogs, cats, rabbits, stuffed animals, your leg...the list is quite long... exhibiting gay behavior is not the same thing as being gay... you are reading way to much into it, and they slanted the data and analysis of the data to make it look like gaydom, but it's nothing even close... BTW, the article you posted here is nothing but speculation... no science what so ever... you pretty much read my mind there seems a lot of assumption but no scientific 'proof' in the explanation given above,,, and what is described as 'homosexual behavior' is actually also known as being affectionate or having physical contact REGARDLESS of gender a lot of interesting information that unfortunately falls short in its logic and conclusion ,,,,still not very convincing to me that the motive of a male animal penetrating another male is 'pleasure' or that this somehow would make the behavior natural for humans,,,, but in any case,,carry on, back to how God is so awful and He and his miracles are probably our imagination (im sure atheists have many reasons why our logic seems like a stretch too,,, interesting parallel) I think one of G-d's greatest miracles is our dear little Ms Harmony! |
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LOL Denial is not just a river in Egypt! How about this blurb from Yale University? Home About YSM Get Involved Subscriptions Advertisements YSM Archive Essay Contest Contact Us Do Animals Exhibit Homosexuality? ARASH FEREYDOONI MARCH 14, 2012 2 Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought. Although Darwin’s theory of natural selection predicts an evolutionary disadvantage for animals that fail to pass along their traits through reproduction with the opposite sex, the validity of this part of his theory has been questioned with the discoveries of homosexual behavior in more than 10% of prevailing species throughout the world. Human beings are not the only animals to exhibit homosexual behavior. Photo courtesy of the globalanimal.org. Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide. For instance, observations indicate that Humboldt, King, Gentoo, and Adélie penguins of the same sex engage in “mating rituals like entwining their necks and vocalizing to one another.” In addition, male giraffes have also been observed engaging in homosexual behavior by rubbing their necks against each others’ bodies while ignoring the females. Yet another example is lizards of the genus Teiidae, which can copulate with both male and female mates. Biologists Nathan W. Bailey and Marlene Zuk from the University of California, Riverside have investigated the evolutionary consequences and implications of same-sex behavior, and their findings demonstrate benefits to what seems to be an evolutionary paradox. For example, their studies of the Laysan albatross show that female-female pairing can increase fitness by taking advantage of the excess of females and shortage of males in the population and provide superior care for offspring. Moreover, same-sex pairing in many species actually alleviates the likelihood of divorce and curtails the pressure on the opposite sex by allowing members to exhibit more flexibility to form partnerships, which in turn strengthens social bonds and reduces competition. Thus, not only do animals exhibit homosexuality, but the existence of this behavior is quite prevalent and may also confer certain evolutionary advantages. Or are the gays everywhere posting their lies. No one here thinks or cares if you are gay, we will love you all the same. However, I also think Ms Harmoney also wanted some understanding of the concept of Intention, as she seems to not understand it (or its role in the Zimmerman trial) However, I now have to go and take massive dump, during which I also plan to get lost in a good spy thriller. its all propaganda... they have no way of knowing that an animal is gay or not... sex with animals is just instinct, not for enjoyment, and i've seen puppies humps anything they can get their front paws around...including other male dogs, cats, rabbits, stuffed animals, your leg...the list is quite long... exhibiting gay behavior is not the same thing as being gay... you are reading way to much into it, and they slanted the data and analysis of the data to make it look like gaydom, but it's nothing even close... BTW, the article you posted here is nothing but speculation... no science what so ever... you pretty much read my mind there seems a lot of assumption but no scientific 'proof' in the explanation given above,,, and what is described as 'homosexual behavior' is actually also known as being affectionate or having physical contact REGARDLESS of gender a lot of interesting information that unfortunately falls short in its logic and conclusion ,,,,still not very convincing to me that the motive of a male animal penetrating another male is 'pleasure' or that this somehow would make the behavior natural for humans,,,, but in any case,,carry on, back to how God is so awful and He and his miracles are probably our imagination (im sure atheists have many reasons why our logic seems like a stretch too,,, interesting parallel) I think one of G-d's greatest miracles is our dear little Ms Harmony! hmm,,so hard to tell condescention from genuine compliment when its in black and white.....lol but Im gonna opt to give benefit of the doubt,,, 
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God is a loving God. But also a God who hates sin. The Bible tells us in Rev. 21:8 "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and liers, they be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur"
You must learn first the attributes of God before u judge Him. The people in old testament were punished because of their sins. They don't believe in God. And until now the Bible has warnings against those who don't believe. And regarding to suffering, The Bible don't tell us that their is no suffering here on earth. Paul in the Bible are very faithful, but they suffered also, and they even gave their lives. All of these bad happenings are caused by sin. God created man perfectly but has a free will, because he don't want us to become like robot.But Adam and eve committed sin. They choose it. Just like you. You are free to believe, or not to believe. And the consequence of that is eternal punishment. Remember brother, even you will live for 100 years, compare to eternity. That's too short. What if, if the Bible is true? If u have time, watch Ron Wyatt on youtube. His scientific research can show that the Bible is telling the truth..Thanks. |
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God is a loving God. But also a God who hates sin. The Bible tells us in Rev. 21:8 "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and liers, they be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur"
You must learn first the attributes of God before u judge Him. The people in old testament were punished because of their sins. They don't believe in God. And until now the Bible has warnings against those who don't believe. And regarding to suffering, The Bible don't tell us that their is no suffering here on earth. Paul in the Bible are very faithful, but they suffered also, and they even gave their lives. All of these bad happenings are caused by sin. God created man perfectly but has a free will, because he don't want us to become like robot.But Adam and eve committed sin. They choose it. Just like you. You are free to believe, or not to believe. And the consequence of that is eternal punishment. Remember brother, even you will live for 100 years, compare to eternity. That's too short. What if, if the Bible is true? If u have time, watch Ron Wyatt on youtube. His scientific research can show that the Bible is telling the truth..Thanks. |
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kramnhoj
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God is a loving God. But also a God who hates sin. The Bible tells us in Rev. 21:8 "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and liers, they be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur" You must learn first the attributes of God before u judge Him. The people in old testament were punished because of their sins. They don't believe in God. And until now the Bible has warnings against those who don't believe. And regarding to suffering, The Bible don't tell us that their is no suffering here on earth. Paul in the Bible are very faithful, but they suffered also, and they even gave their lives. All of these bad happenings are caused by sin. God created man perfectly but has a free will, because he don't want us to become like robot.But Adam and eve committed sin. They choose it. Just like you. You are free to believe, or not to believe. And the consequence of that is eternal punishment. Remember brother, even you will live for 100 years, compare to eternity. That's too short. What if, if the Bible is true? If u have time, watch Ron Wyatt on youtube. His scientific research can show that the Bible is telling the truth..Thanks. Therefore those Creatures in Eden were far from conscious Beings! Actually they were some Deity's little Robots until they were liberated! BTW,a loving God is incapable of Hate! |
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kramnhoj
"Free will" means that we, as free souls, can believe whatever we want to believe without a bunch of threats and intimidation from some entity who claims to be the God of the universe. If you admit that we do have "free will" which is what 'your God' (Jehovah) truly hates, (not sin because he defines "sin" as "disobedience")-- ..then we have the freedom to reject this entity who claims to be God without fear. He has no power over us. Unless you would like to rescind the claim that we have "free will." Here is an example: If a man tells you to "chose" to love and worship him -- or else be thrown into a "fiery lake of burning sulfur" would you feel like you had "free will?" Free will is not a choice between worshiping Jehovah or Jesus and eternal Hell. If you think that then you don't know the meaning of EXTORTION. Which is what the church has been doing to people for centuries. |
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Extortion (Wikipedia)
Extortion (also called shakedown, outwresting, and exaction) is a criminal offense of unlawfully obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Serve Jehovah or go to hell. |
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I thank you bringing up this theme!
Even a negative way of seing God is good PR for Him. 1. He gave me a new life. Now I can love people that I hate before. 2. It needs some teaching about of how to the most out of the Holy Bible. 3. Your alias name carries the answer of all your questions. No need to preach to you. It will come. Lazaruswas a brother to Mary & Martha. He was belonging to the friends of Jesus. He died and laid 4 days in a grave. Than Jesus came and weeped. He spoke to the dead Lazarus to get up. He got up! What Jesus has done for His old friend Lazarus, He will do for you! He will wake you up and give you a new life. Amen! God bless you, Revd. Vera |
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This thread is getting out of control. No one is to stone anyone, until I blow this whistle, even if they do say Jehovah
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People talk about "Jesus" as if this were a real person walking around in the flesh.
If a person's life has changed it is because they have changed their own attitude and heart. No other person or entity can do that for you. |
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Solace84
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Young man,,,,your philosophical braging would take you nowhere.......you talk as if you had every obvious proof that God didn't exist,,,, but you had none......you just being logical thats all and thats is understandable.....I have this question for you......Have you seen the lame walked or blind regained sight just by mentioning the name Jesus??? If you had seen or heard,,,,what could be the power behind that??? @Larzarus:)
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Young man,,,,your philosophical braging would take you nowhere.......you talk as if you had every obvious proof that God didn't exist,,,, but you had none......you just being logical thats all and thats is understandable.....I have this question for you......Have you seen the lame walked or blind regained sight just by mentioning the name Jesus??? If you had seen or heard,,,,what could be the power behind that??? @Larzarus:) It is the power of belief. |
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Even if animals display homosexual gestures,,,,is that a criteria for humans to becoming homosexuals???
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Thats good! ''Its the power of belief'' in other word its faith......then what the heck is wrong in having the belief or faith that God does exist???
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Thats good! ''Its the power of belief'' in other word its faith......then what the heck is wrong in having the belief or faith that God does exist??? Nothing at all. However belief is the key, whatever your concept of God is (or is not. Do you really believe or do you just think you do? A lot of people think they believe, but they really don't. |
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Even if animals display homosexual gestures,,,,is that a criteria for humans to becoming homosexuals??? Criteria? No. But it is a clue, that homosexual tendencies may not be a conscious choice. |
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