Humm don't have any clue have never had one that beat me and if he did Gawd help him and he better make sure that hit keeps me down or he would not like the results. lol


But........ honest have never understood why someone would stay with with someone that beats them now days there is way too many ways for women to get help and out of those situations.

Fear of being alone, more than likely. And maybe they overlook the bad things he does, and only focus on the good?

people want "perfection" but if it came up and bit them in the a** they would dismiss it. Instead they will take the "hot" guy, or the chick that reminds them of whatever slut is hot in hollywood at the time. No one really wants a good person, just one that makes them think they look good standing next to them.

You can be good-looking and a good person too.

true, I am referring to those who only care about looks, not the person inside

Dan.......


Your gonna have to come to terms with the fact that some times it takes a jerk to get the job done no self respecting Woman will fall for some Mommy's boy willing to do what they ask them to part of being a man and getting a woman is offering them a challenge once in a while and that requires being a jerk when you hit asshole status Women start throwing their panties at your feet.

If a girl or guy, gets treated like crap and takes it, probably is not a person you would want anyway. If that person does not have enough self-esteem, or fears losing the person because they do not think they can do any better, then what knid of person is that anyway. They are generally shallow and to worried about their image to appreciate the good they cross over everyday.

"Bad Boys" will often hide their behavior in the beginning of a relationship. Sometimes they are expert at telling the woman exactly what she would love to hear and they exude charisma. Then once the relationship is established, often will start their crap. There is often a lot of lying, apologizing and false promises. It is usually not at all easy to leave them either. They will beg and plead and promise to change. This is a really complicated issue. Even the people involved in the relationship don't know why, including the ones that are abusing, cheating, whatever. Everything always looks simpler from the outside looking in. ( My 2 cents)

u know, when u have been in a relationship for a long time and there are kids involved and u noticed that u do deserve better it aint that easy to just get up and leave either. You always think of the welfare of the kids before your happiness.

LOL, I still have to disagree that women "like jerks." I've been with jerks, but it wasn't because I "liked them" it was because that seemed to be all that was available.

One more thing.....It is NOT always the "hot" or typically popular people that are guilty of treating the person that they "love" like crap. Sometimes it's the seemingly sweet, compassionate type that is the worst a$$hole or biotch you can imagine. People are crafty. :-)

u meet em, they are very sweet and they turn out to be someone completely different

That's true. I went out with this guy who had a reputation for being "the sweetest guy ever" and maybe he was, but he treated me like crap.

i know that feeling

Very true!!!!!,,,,,,,VERY TRUE!!!!!!!!!,LOL

it is a shame that there are so many jerks out there, and lots of liars too. but I will say one thing for sure, never NEVER stay with someone abusive just for the children, it will scar them for life!

It's not easy finding the "perfect" person for yourself. Everybody wants something, it's only human. All you can do is try to treat people the way you would like to be treated and be honest about what you want and are willing to give. No one should be abused. Too bad we can't just match up the bad boys with the bad girls. Life just doesn't work that way....sigh...

Hawaii - you are right on.

A lot of the time it is fear. Many times if he is an abuser, he has threatened to kill her if she leaves, or take the kids and never let her see them again if she tries to leave him. If she has been beaten enough, she believes him and does not doubt his ability to do just that.

Other things that come into play are finances, if she has never supported herself, she is afraid, does not know if she can financially support herself and the kids or even where to start, may not even have job skills. Abusers isolate their wifes, chase off their friends and families so they have NO social support, some are not even allowed to drive a car and may not have a driver's license. They strip the women of their self esteem/self worth and the women get to the point that they just don't really care about much at all, many are seriously depressed.

It isn't always that they "like" the jerks, sometimes they are just plain stuck and can't see their way out.

Sometimes though as YeahBig says, if it is a normal relationship, there is an attraction to the "bad boys" and "bad girls" that is sexual, fulfilling a fantasy.

Right about the children....

Hi Marie,,,,,,how ya doing??