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For all the liberal lefties out there.... a few words from one of your own! Gun control is not the answer By LZ Granderson, CNN Contributor (CNN) -- Another day, another mass shooting in America. More blood, more tears, more knee-jerk rhetoric about finding a solution for a bunch of different problems. Those who knew Aaron Alexis -- the shooter who killed 12 and injured eight more at the Washington Navy Yard this week -- said he was a quiet, shy man. At one point he was studying Buddhism and meditated often. A little more digging, and we find he had several gun-related arrests and a pattern of misconduct in the Navy, but he was honorably discharged. Pieces of a puzzle we may never fully put together. http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/opinion/granderson-gun-control-fail/index.html |
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You are correct that there will be a frenzy of nonsensical proposals to end such madness. Those who would like to attack the Second Amendment don't seem to understand what would happen next if miraculously ALL firearms were removed from this country (kinda like Saint Patrick removing all the snakes from Ireland). Anyone else out there been to Iraq or Afghanistan or remember Timothy McVeigh? That is right. Deny these nuts access to firearms and we can expect IEDs to be used instead. MSNBC will tell you "That would never happen here," but anyone with a brain knows better.
Additionally, the Second Amendment is NOT for hunting or home defense, it was included in the Bill of Rights as a defense against TYRANNY: TYRANNY FROM WITHIN OR FROM WITHOUT. G. |
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I guess you forget the words "well regulated" eh?
I want those fearfully owned weapons regulated as put in our constitution. Regulate them like we do cars, insurance would be good. A good test of the mental health of the bearer would be good. Yearly exams would be good. Etc... Regulations boys, it WRITTEN IN OUR CONSTITUTION Yea |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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I guess you forget the words "well regulated" eh? I want those fearfully owned weapons regulated as put in our constitution. Regulate them like we do cars, insurance would be good. A good test of the mental health of the bearer would be good. Yearly exams would be good. Etc... Regulations boys, it WRITTEN IN OUR CONSTITUTION Yea I guess you don't know what the words "well regulated" mean eh? You want to argue gun control without a clue to even your own argument!  They were'nt talking about control! They were talking about well supplied and trained. In those days if you didn't have your gun well maintained and ammo fully stocked, your rucksack ready, or missed a call to arms, you were fined and jailed! They were regulated by "drills and inspections" to ensure they met that criteria to the letter. They didn't "register" because everyone was forced to have them because the populace WAS the militia! This was necessary to defend against a corrupt gov't or foreign power, not for hunting, or even personal defense per-say, but to defend the sovereignty and inhabitants of your state against encroaching powers, foreign or domestic! They even owned cannons because it was required that each militia was armed as well as, or better than, any opposing force that might set upon them! |
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I guess you forget the words "well regulated" eh? I want those fearfully owned weapons regulated as put in our constitution. Regulate them like we do cars, insurance would be good. A good test of the mental health of the bearer would be good. Yearly exams would be good. Etc... Regulations boys, it WRITTEN IN OUR CONSTITUTION Yea Got more Disinformation? The meaning of the phrase "well-regulated" in the 2nd amendment The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it. http://constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Tue 09/17/13 03:01 PM
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I guess you forget the words "well regulated" eh? I want those fearfully owned weapons regulated as put in our constitution. Regulate them like we do cars, insurance would be good. A good test of the mental health of the bearer would be good. Yearly exams would be good. Etc... Regulations boys, it WRITTEN IN OUR CONSTITUTION Yea Got more Disinformation? The meaning of the phrase "well-regulated" in the 2nd amendment The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it. http://constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm Thanks for the link Con..... I was looking for one  Some don't get it that the 2nd amendment even entitles the individual to missiles, rockets, tanks, submarines or whatever to be as well equipped as any opposing force that may rise against them. They should be thankful we are only complaining of the infringments against small arms..... I'm looking for that link now
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no stronger gun control laws are needed why do i say that you ask because the laws that are on the books now are not enforced what happened to mandatory 8yrs for gun crime not long ago a person here in ohio was killed by gun shot by old boyfriend released from prison after only 4 years for a gun crime if they enforced the mandatory 8 years that person would still be alive A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. and as for well regulated militia ------ when "the people" organize a well regulated militia the govt brands them a terrorist group what part of shall not be infringed........do you not understand |
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why the second amendment is in the constitution --------------------------------------------------------------------- IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world ----------------------------- ****WHO IS GOING TO HOLD THE GOVT ACCOUNTABLE AND ENFORCE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE ENTER THE 2ND AMENDMENT ---------------------------- U.S. Constitution: Second Amendment Second Amendment - Bearing Arms Amendment Text | Annotations A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. ---------------------------- DEFINITIONS ----------------------------- Main Entry: in•fringe Pronunciation: in-'frinj Function: verb Inflected Forms: in•fringed; in•fring•ing Etymology: Medieval Latin infringere, from Latin, to break, crush, from in- in + frangere to break transitive verb : to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed —U.S. Constitution amendment II>; especially : to violate a holder's rights under (a copyright, patent, trademark, or trade name) intransitive verb : ENCROACH —in•fring•er noun Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another en•croach (n-krch) intr.v. en•croached, en•croach•ing, en•croach•es 1. To take another's possessions or rights gradually or stealthily: encroach on a neighbor's land. 2. To advance beyond proper or former limits: desert encroaching upon grassland. 3. Football To commit encroachment. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ peo•ple (ppl) n. pl. people 1. Humans considered as a group or in indefinite numbers: People were dancing in the street. I met all sorts of people. 2. A body of persons living in the same country under one national government; a nationality. 3. pl. peo•ples A body of persons sharing a common religion, culture, language, or inherited condition of life. 4. Persons with regard to their residence, class, profession, or group: city people. 5. The mass of ordinary persons; the populace. Used with the: "those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes" Thomas Jefferson. 6. The citizens of a political unit, such as a nation or state; the electorate. Used with the. 7. Persons subordinate to or loyal to a ruler, superior, or employer: The queen showed great compassion for her people. 8. Family, relatives, or ancestors. 9. Informal Animals or other beings distinct from humans: Rabbits and squirrels are the furry little people of the woods http://www.thefreedictionary.com/people ------------------------------------ SO IF THE GOVT INFRINGES (see DEFINITIONS) THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE (SEE DEFINITIONS) TO BEAR ARMS WHO IS GOING TO ENFORCE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WHEN THE GOVT BEGINS ABUSING THEIR POWERS ------------------------------------ deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ------------------------------------ AND BEGIN RESTRICTING THE ------------------------------------ We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men ------------------------------------- WHO WILL STEP IN AND REMOVE THE ------------------------------------- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government ---------------------------------- AND INSTITUTE THE NEW GOVT DO YOU THINK THE GOVT IS GOING TO DO IT IT IS UP TO THE PEOPLE AND TO DO SO THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ARMED AN UNARMED PEOPLE ARE SLAVE TO THOSE IN POWER AND THE GOVT ARE THE MASTERS WHICH IS NOT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDANCE ------------------------------------- deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, |
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I guess you forget the words "well regulated" eh? I want those fearfully owned weapons regulated as put in our constitution. Regulate them like we do cars, insurance would be good. A good test of the mental health of the bearer would be good. Yearly exams would be good. Etc... Regulations boys, it WRITTEN IN OUR CONSTITUTION Yea Got more Disinformation? The meaning of the phrase "well-regulated" in the 2nd amendment The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it. http://constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm Following one simple rule led to being a well regulated militia. Order #2 from "Standing Orders of Roger's Rangers" "2. Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minute’s warning." The available weaponry every man had at home, could afford, at the time. |
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You idiots....I am a lefty...left handed..I am a liberal ...I believe that any idiot who don't like my guns should really feal the liberty to stay away .
You pansies who wanna blame whatever angle of democracy or republic need to just shut the hell up...hold your guns and be grateful you can still do it. ***** and whine all you want for the drama.....this is no cheesy soap opera... You actually got the right to have a gun. Enjoy that right. Stop whining like a little girl with an owwie. Obama ain't coming to take your gun...just like every guy before. You got guns and it is legal...stop whining like unarmed pu$$$$1es. |
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Yes, what this country really needs is more half wits with pistols in their pockets, tanks parked in their driveways, and cannons set up in their living rooms, ready to take out their neighbors at any perceived slight. Then we'll all be safe.
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Yes, what this country really needs is more half wits with pistols in their pockets, tanks parked in their driveways, and cannons set up in their living rooms, ready to take out their neighbors at any perceived slight. Then we'll all be safe. |
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You idiots....I am a lefty...left handed..I am a liberal ...I believe that any idiot who don't like my guns should really feal the liberty to stay away . You pansies who wanna blame whatever angle of democracy or republic need to just shut the hell up...hold your guns and be grateful you can still do it. ***** and whine all you want for the drama.....this is no cheesy soap opera... You actually got the right to have a gun. Enjoy that right. Stop whining like a little girl with an owwie. Obama ain't coming to take your gun...just like every guy before. You got guns and it is legal...stop whining like unarmed pu$$$$1es.  nice loud, obnoxious talk, but absolutely meaningless.. maybe you should read more history about gun control and the after effects before you start shooting your mouth off... |
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Everyone wants to shout about "Gun Control" in the mistaken context of ending senseless violence.
What we need is IDIOT CONTROL ...oops, I guess we can't have that or countless obama, biden, pelosi, etc., voters will be turned away from the polls and msnbc will be taken off the air. |
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If the US really wanted to reduce gun violence and gun related deaths to a minimum, they would outlaw the trial lawyers association and go back to the punishment generally accepted during the time when the Constitution was written.
If you murdered someone you were hung. If you robbed, generally acted as a career criminal, or assaulted people with deadly weapons, you were hung. If you raped or molested a child, you were hung. The list goes on. Back then everyone was expected to have a weapon, know how to use it, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property. Now, the police and courts are expected to provide "protection" by use of the revolving door policy. It doesn't work except to put a lot of money into the pockets of lawyers. |
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If the US really wanted to reduce gun violence and gun related deaths to a minimum, they would outlaw the trial lawyers association and go back to the punishment generally accepted during the time when the Constitution was written. If you murdered someone you were hung. If you robbed, generally acted as a career criminal, or assaulted people with deadly weapons, you were hung. If you raped or molested a child, you were hung. The list goes on. Back then everyone was expected to have a weapon, know how to use it, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property. Now, the police and courts are expected to provide "protection" by use of the revolving door policy. It doesn't work except to put a lot of money into the pockets of lawyers. 
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If the US really wanted to reduce gun violence and gun related deaths to a minimum, they would outlaw the trial lawyers association and go back to the punishment generally accepted during the time when the Constitution was written. If you murdered someone you were hung. If you robbed, generally acted as a career criminal, or assaulted people with deadly weapons, you were hung. If you raped or molested a child, you were hung. The list goes on. Back then everyone was expected to have a weapon, know how to use it, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property. Now, the police and courts are expected to provide "protection" by use of the revolving door policy. It doesn't work except to put a lot of money into the pockets of lawyers. Most Libertarians are. 
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If the US really wanted to reduce gun violence and gun related deaths to a minimum, they would outlaw the trial lawyers association and go back to the punishment generally accepted during the time when the Constitution was written. If you murdered someone you were hung. If you robbed, generally acted as a career criminal, or assaulted people with deadly weapons, you were hung. If you raped or molested a child, you were hung. The list goes on. Back then everyone was expected to have a weapon, know how to use it, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property. Now, the police and courts are expected to provide "protection" by use of the revolving door policy. It doesn't work except to put a lot of money into the pockets of lawyers. Most Libertarians are. Makes them see red and use all Capitals in their Posts! 
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If the US really wanted to reduce gun violence and gun related deaths to a minimum, they would outlaw the trial lawyers association and go back to the punishment generally accepted during the time when the Constitution was written. If you murdered someone you were hung. If you robbed, generally acted as a career criminal, or assaulted people with deadly weapons, you were hung. If you raped or molested a child, you were hung. The list goes on. Back then everyone was expected to have a weapon, know how to use it, and use it to protect life, liberty, and property. Now, the police and courts are expected to provide "protection" by use of the revolving door policy. It doesn't work except to put a lot of money into the pockets of lawyers. Most Libertarians are. Makes them see red and use all Capitals in their Posts! What makes me laugh is the usage of the words "common sense" in a context where there isn't any. 
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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 And from a loyal follower who buys their logic....  Irony is not a vitamin supplement! |
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