Oct 7th, 2014
Steinem : More women killed by partners since 9/11 than deaths from attacks, ensuring wars

www.polifact.com/punditfact>2014 oct>gloriasteinem


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Tomato86 stated >>>
huh

Ties into '% of deaths' in America and cause's; add one more extrapolation to that as in 'Pregnant Women' and the data is truly shocking!

Mortality rate for murdered women in America goes up substantially when they are pregnant then in any other country - rather sobering isn't it?

tomato86 asked >>>
are these all gun related deaths or just death in general?

That I'm not sure because there are so many cases still pending and trials waiting to be heard --- but dead is dead and I don't have stats or a link for that question! Wish I did.

the reason they are so fanatical, is because its an inalienable right that no government has any authority to regulate. its our right as americans to own as many guns as we want and whatever types we want, minus the banning of most full autos which that law is even unconstitutional IMO. whatever the government can arm themselves with the citizens should be allowed the same as thats the reason for the 2nd amendment, for the citizens to protect themselves in the event their government gets out of control, IMO we have already made too many compromises when it comes to our 2nd amendment.

Tomato86 stated >>>
i see, well this thread is about gun death statistics, not pregnant woman death statistics, if its not firearms it has no place in this thread

WHOA back there JR, this is the topic title > "CDC death statistics vrs guns" and since it's not my 'LINK' not my source I guess you can crawl up SassyEuro's backside about that issue; I just happen to be reading some current legal proceedings regarding this very thing and your wanting verification for topic matter! Good Grief...Later

You are mistaken in all that. Aside from your slip, no doubt accidental ( saying "no government has any authority to regulate" is obviously false: lots of governments do), you are conflating ownership with regulation. The two are not identical, no matter what the fanatics want to pretend.

The Second Amendment itself, includes the word words "well regulated" in it, for goodness sake.

The right to keep and bear arms, does NOT mean the right to ignorantly and irresponsibly do whatever one likes. You have a right to own a car, too, but not to drive it over your neighbors lawn, or to park it in the center of the freeway, or even to drive it whenever or wherever you like, or to loan it to anyone you like.

There are legal responsibilities that go along with ALL ownership. There's no separating them out of it. And there's nothing magical about guns, which makes them any different than any other mechanical device.

There's little sillier than claiming that the point of the second Amendment is to see to it that the citizenry is armed as well as the government is. You certainly wouldn't want that, really. Just imagine your most repugnant and hostile neighbor, allowed to buy an artillery piece, or a fifty caliber Gatling gun, and keep it loaded and pointed at your bedroom at all times. Or worse, imagine that all those nuts we read about joining ISIS from the suburbs of the US, being allowed to own nuclear weapons (armed as well as the government, you know).

Just as the Anti-gun fanatics need to learn, blindly demanding thoughtlessness isn't going to cut it in the real world, and just makes a person look foolish, and worse, intent on promoting non-responsible behavior.

you might want to look up the meaning of "Well Regulated" as it was used then!

You are mistaken in all that. Aside from your slip, no doubt accidental ( saying "no government has any authority to regulate" is obviously false: lots of governments do), you are conflating ownership with regulation. The two are not identical, no matter what the fanatics want to pretend.

The Second Amendment itself, includes the word words "well regulated" in it, for goodness sake.

The right to keep and bear arms, does NOT mean the right to ignorantly and irresponsibly do whatever one likes. You have a right to own a car, too, but not to drive it over your neighbors lawn, or to park it in the center of the freeway, or even to drive it whenever or wherever you like, or to loan it to anyone you like.

There are legal responsibilities that go along with ALL ownership. There's no separating them out of it. And there's nothing magical about guns, which makes them any different than any other mechanical device.

There's little sillier than claiming that the point of the second Amendment is to see to it that the citizenry is armed as well as the government is. You certainly wouldn't want that, really. Just imagine your most repugnant and hostile neighbor, allowed to buy an artillery piece, or a fifty caliber Gatling gun, and keep it loaded and pointed at your bedroom at all times. Or worse, imagine that all those nuts we read about joining ISIS from the suburbs of the US, being allowed to own nuclear weapons (armed as well as the government, you know).

Just as the Anti-gun fanatics need to learn, blindly demanding thoughtlessness isn't going to cut it in the real world, and just makes a person look foolish, and worse, intent on promoting non-responsible behavior.

These examples are the extreme absurdness that permeates throughout the gun grabbing ideology.

You don't need nor does the overwhelming majority of people want any of the extreme weaponry you mentioned.

What they do want is the ability, as a law abiding citizen to able to purchase a weapon without being hassled or expected to wade through the government bureaucracy established purposely to impede their right to self defense.

It is as simple as that.

As long as there are self-centered, irrational, whiny, scared a$$ people unwilling to fend for themselves, or even care to try, there will be a liberal politician to vote for that's willing to take your money, and promising to take that right away from the majority as a "cause".... no matter the Constitution or Bill of Rights.