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Topic: Male vs Female
msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:16 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/31/15 08:17 AM
I am usually interested in 'consistency' and 'balance', so I wonder on many things that seem inconsistent,, such as the following


IF we accept (in general) that its automatically an unequal paring if a man and woman have a physical altercation,, so much to the point, that no matter what she has done, his placing hands on her is monstrous,,,


WHY do we allow women to fight in wars,, with so many men actually trained to 'kill' them?

or are women just privvy to deciding when they are 'helpless' against a man and when they aren't and everyone else is obligated to support whichever side they fall on at the time?

Datwasntme's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:31 AM
is one of the many reasons i would never be in the service
i was raised to never hit a lady
so killing them to me would be even worse

but maybe that is that equil rights stuff

<shrug>

mikeyspace4691's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:34 AM

I am usually interested in 'consistency' and 'balance', so I wonder on many things that seem inconsistent,, such as the following


IF we accept (in general) that its automatically an unequal paring if a man and woman have a physical altercation,, so much to the point, that no matter what she has done, his placing hands on her is monstrous,,,


WHY do we allow women to fight in wars,, with so many men actually trained to 'kill' them?

or are women just privvy to deciding when they are 'helpless' against a man and when they aren't and everyone else is obligated to support whichever side they fall on at the time?


I was not aware that anyone forces women to fight in wars.. I hear they mostly get in the way.

no photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:35 AM
A damsel in distress needs a Knight in shining armor. Everybody wants to be a knight in shining armor even if it means overlooking a few details.

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:36 AM
you will not find consistency or balance in Life. There is nothing "fair" about life.

Another question about Women vs.Men is when an older women has a sexual relationship with a minor(like teacher/student), she gets a slap on the wrist. If an older man has sex with a minor girl he gets a very long prison term?

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:36 AM


I am usually interested in 'consistency' and 'balance', so I wonder on many things that seem inconsistent,, such as the following


IF we accept (in general) that its automatically an unequal paring if a man and woman have a physical altercation,, so much to the point, that no matter what she has done, his placing hands on her is monstrous,,,


WHY do we allow women to fight in wars,, with so many men actually trained to 'kill' them?

or are women just privvy to deciding when they are 'helpless' against a man and when they aren't and everyone else is obligated to support whichever side they fall on at the time?


I was not aware that anyone forces women to fight in wars.. I hear they mostly get in the way.


no , they arent forced

my question is more about why one seems to place men as physical equals and not the other

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:37 AM

you will not find consistency or balance in Life. There is nothing "fair" about life.

Another question about Women vs.Men is when an older women has a sexual relationship with a minor(like teacher/student), she gets a slap on the wrist. If an older man has sex with a minor girl he gets a very long prison term?


I agree, that is also inconsistent and illogical to me

I think it is an extension of the weaker women philosophy


Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:42 AM


you will not find consistency or balance in Life. There is nothing "fair" about life.

Another question about Women vs.Men is when an older women has a sexual relationship with a minor(like teacher/student), she gets a slap on the wrist. If an older man has sex with a minor girl he gets a very long prison term?


I agree, that is also inconsistent and illogical to me

I think it is an extension of the weaker women philosophy



yes or based on emotions rather then rational
BTW..nice to see you again MSflowerforyou

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:45 AM



you will not find consistency or balance in Life. There is nothing "fair" about life.

Another question about Women vs.Men is when an older women has a sexual relationship with a minor(like teacher/student), she gets a slap on the wrist. If an older man has sex with a minor girl he gets a very long prison term?


I agree, that is also inconsistent and illogical to me

I think it is an extension of the weaker women philosophy



yes or based on emotions rather then rational
BTW..nice to see you again MSflowerforyou


you as well redwine

Datwasntme's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:48 AM



I am usually interested in 'consistency' and 'balance', so I wonder on many things that seem inconsistent,, such as the following


IF we accept (in general) that its automatically an unequal paring if a man and woman have a physical altercation,, so much to the point, that no matter what she has done, his placing hands on her is monstrous,,,


WHY do we allow women to fight in wars,, with so many men actually trained to 'kill' them?

or are women just privvy to deciding when they are 'helpless' against a man and when they aren't and everyone else is obligated to support whichever side they fall on at the time?


I was not aware that anyone forces women to fight in wars.. I hear they mostly get in the way.


no , they arent forced

my question is more about why one seems to place men as physical equals and not the other


F. that
females are stronger
proof you want ? ? ?


let me know when a man can have a kid
then i will say they are equal

driftingLuke's photo
Sun 05/31/15 10:17 AM

I am usually interested in 'consistency' and 'balance', so I wonder on many things that seem inconsistent,, such as the following


IF we accept (in general) that its automatically an unequal paring if a man and woman have a physical altercation,, so much to the point, that no matter what she has done, his placing hands on her is monstrous,,,


WHY do we allow women to fight in wars,, with so many men actually trained to 'kill' them?

or are women just privvy to deciding when they are 'helpless' against a man and when they aren't and everyone else is obligated to support whichever side they fall on at the time?


We ALLOW women to fight in wars because we are forced to by political correctness and in response to a very small minority of women who scream for it. We have no choice because they are equals. Personally, as a former Marine of 28 years, women do NOT belong in combat. They are a distraction and a hazard in that environment.

What really eats me up is discussion about "alternate standards" for women. BS...you can do the job or you can't. I don't want my sorry *** depending on someone who only had to prove they can do do 65% of what I had to prove I can do, man or woman. Also, women have to request to be assigned to a ground unit. For men that's the automatic default position.

I'm sure there are women out there who could kick my *** in hand-to-hand combat, but by and large I'm willing to say against average women I'll prevail about 99.9% of the time. Against average men? Maybe 90%, not because I'm some Johnny Rambo or anything like that, but because I've been in training for just such a scenario for 28 friggin' years, while 90% of men have not. Put me in a cage against MMA fighters and the percentage will drop substantially, I'll likely get my *** handed to me. Wherein lies the crux...I know my limits and that I don't belong in that world. I wouldn't ask them to lower their standards to allow me to participate.

As for giving birth being an indicator toughness, after a woman gives birth, within an hour or so they're happily cradling their little bundle of joy in their arms and smiling for the camera. There's a HUGE difference between that and the pain of being shot, tied up and beaten, or hit by an IED, both physically and psychologically. Of the scenarios provided, I've never given birth, so I guess you could say my statement is speculative.

Then again, after a woman gives birth, after a year or so she may ask, "Why don't we have another kid!" I can't think of a man saying, "Please kick me in the 'nads again!"

Datwasntme's photo
Sun 05/31/15 10:28 AM


I am usually interested in 'consistency' and 'balance', so I wonder on many things that seem inconsistent,, such as the following


IF we accept (in general) that its automatically an unequal paring if a man and woman have a physical altercation,, so much to the point, that no matter what she has done, his placing hands on her is monstrous,,,


WHY do we allow women to fight in wars,, with so many men actually trained to 'kill' them?

or are women just privvy to deciding when they are 'helpless' against a man and when they aren't and everyone else is obligated to support whichever side they fall on at the time?


We ALLOW women to fight in wars because we are forced to by political correctness and in response to a very small minority of women who scream for it. We have no choice because they are equals. Personally, as a former Marine of 28 years, women do NOT belong in combat. They are a distraction and a hazard in that environment.

What really eats me up is discussion about "alternate standards" for women. BS...you can do the job or you can't. I don't want my sorry *** depending on someone who only had to prove they can do do 65% of what I had to prove I can do, man or woman. Also, women have to request to be assigned to a ground unit. For men that's the automatic default position.

I'm sure there are women out there who could kick my *** in hand-to-hand combat, but by and large I'm willing to say against average women I'll prevail about 99.9% of the time. Against average men? Maybe 90%, not because I'm some Johnny Rambo or anything like that, but because I've been in training for just such a scenario for 28 friggin' years, while 90% of men have not. Put me in a cage against MMA fighters and the percentage will drop substantially, I'll likely get my *** handed to me. Wherein lies the crux...I know my limits and that I don't belong in that world. I wouldn't ask them to lower their standards to allow me to participate.

As for giving birth being an indicator toughness, after a woman gives birth, within an hour or so they're happily cradling their little bundle of joy in their arms and smiling for the camera. There's a HUGE difference between that and the pain of being shot, tied up and beaten, or hit by an IED, both physically and psychologically. Of the scenarios provided, I've never given birth, so I guess you could say my statement is speculative.

Then again, after a woman gives birth, after a year or so she may ask, "Why don't we have another kid!" I can't think of a man saying, "Please kick me in the 'nads again!"


so when did you give birth ?

driftingLuke's photo
Sun 05/31/15 10:34 AM
Do you need remedial comprehension training?

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Sun 05/31/15 10:35 AM

so when did you give birth ?



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Datwasntme's photo
Sun 05/31/15 10:40 AM

Do you need remedial comprehension training?


well you are going off your knoledge of giving birth like you had
so i was asking when you gave birth

i have known ladys that have been shot in many different places and gave birth as well

and they say its a very big difference

i know bill cosby said its like taking your bottom lip and streaching it over your head

driftingLuke's photo
Sun 05/31/15 10:55 AM
Edited by driftingLuke on Sun 05/31/15 11:12 AM
What military experience do you have? I have 28 years Marine Corps, 25 years in Reconnaissance, 22 of which were First Force. I wouldn't put any woman (or anyone, for that matter) through what I've been through, just the schools alone never mind the deployments. I think I have a pretty good handle on pain. I still think you need remedial comprehension training. You may be capable of giving birth, I am not. If you read my entire post, I'm not pitching one against the other, it's just that there's a difference between the two. In fact, at the very end I most certainly tip my hat to you women. Nice chatting with you darling, kiss.

edited to add: I never knew Bill Cosby gave birth! Wow, ya' learn something new every day.

edited again to add: You know more than one lady who's been shot, and in different places? Remind me not to hang around you. I have a strange tendency (some would call it an obsessive compulsive disorder) to avoid being shot.

Rooster35's photo
Sun 05/31/15 11:07 AM

I am usually interested in 'consistency' and 'balance', so I wonder on many things that seem inconsistent,, such as the following


IF we accept (in general) that its automatically an unequal paring if a man and woman have a physical altercation,, so much to the point, that no matter what she has done, his placing hands on her is monstrous,,,


WHY do we allow women to fight in wars,, with so many men actually trained to 'kill' them?

or are women just privvy to deciding when they are 'helpless' against a man and when they aren't and everyone else is obligated to support whichever side they fall on at the time?

You got it.

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Sun 05/31/15 11:11 AM
We ALLOW women to fight in wars because we
are forced to by political correctness and in
response to a very small minority of women
who scream for it. We have no choice because
they are equals. Personally, as a former
Marine of 28 years, women do NOT belong in
combat. They are a distraction and a hazard
in that environment.
Ill back you up on that particular assertion....great article on it a shprt while back:

"" Two years ago, Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey,
the nation’s top military officer, laid down an
edict on the Obama administration ’s plan to
open direct land combat jobs to women: If
women cannot meet a standard, senior
commanders better have a good reason why it
should not be lowered.
Today, the “Dempsey rule” appears to have its
first test case.
The Marine Corps just finished research to see
if female officers could successfully complete
its rigorous Infantry Officer Course.
A IOC diploma is a must to earn the
designation of infantry officer. Of 29 women
who tried, none graduated; only four made it
through the first day’s combat endurance test.
Corps public affairs said it did not have the
data on which tasks proved the toughest for
women. But one particularly demanding
upper-body strength test is climbing a 25-foot
rope with a backpack full of gear. A candidate
who cannot crawl to the top fails the test.
Traditionalists see the 0-29 performance as a
call to arms by those inside the Pentagon who
are determined to have significant numbers of
women in the infantry. They are on the
lookout for standards they believe are no
longer relevant in today’s battlefield.
“The pressure is on the services from the
White House’s politically correct crowd vis-a-
vis Obama’s Pentagon appointees, who will
force the services to accept degraded
standards,” said Robert Maginnis, a retired
Army officer and author of the book “Deadly
Consequences: How Cowards Are Pushing
Women Into Combat.”""

More here:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/19/marine-corps-weighs-lower-standards-for-women-afte/?page=all

Datwasntme's photo
Sun 05/31/15 11:47 AM

What military experience do you have? I have 28 years Marine Corps, 25 years in Reconnaissance, 22 of which were First Force. I wouldn't put any woman (or anyone, for that matter) through what I've been through, just the schools alone never mind the deployments. I think I have a pretty good handle on pain. I still think you need remedial comprehension training. You may be capable of giving birth, I am not. If you read my entire post, I'm not pitching one against the other, it's just that there's a difference between the two. In fact, at the very end I most certainly tip my hat to you women. Nice chatting with you darling, kiss.

edited to add: I never knew Bill Cosby gave birth! Wow, ya' learn something new every day.

edited again to add: You know more than one lady who's been shot, and in different places? Remind me not to hang around you. I have a strange tendency (some would call it an obsessive compulsive disorder) to avoid being shot.


never been in the service they would not take me cause my brother was all ready in it (or at least that is the excuse they gave me when i was trying to get in at 3 different places , all went well till they found out he was all ready in )
and no never been in the marine's , all ways have problems trying to explain simple things to them , after arguing and coming to blows , they norm say i am ok and say sorry ..well at least the 5 out of the many i have chatted with.. i don't like to fight , but i will protect myself ....
nore did i ever say i gave birth, do you need a dictionary?(since you like repeating that i need remedial comprehension training)

pass on the kiss , i dont swing that way

never said bill cosby gave birth, just said he said it was like pulling your bottom lip over your head ..

yes i grew up on the streets , lots of dumb people with guns that think they know it all

any who
have a good day gunny
and thanks for your service to try and keep us free, in this messed up world

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 05/31/15 11:49 AM

I am usually interested in 'consistency' and 'balance', so I wonder on many things that seem inconsistent,, such as the following


IF we accept (in general) that its automatically an unequal paring if a man and woman have a physical altercation,, so much to the point, that no matter what she has done, his placing hands on her is monstrous,,,


WHY do we allow women to fight in wars,, with so many men actually trained to 'kill' them?

or are women just privvy to deciding when they are 'helpless' against a man and when they aren't and everyone else is obligated to support whichever side they fall on at the time?


msharmony, Dilbert explains all.



Thankfully, I am a Melmacian.

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