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Topic: Do Beliefs Matter?
regularfeller's photo
Sun 06/14/15 02:13 AM
Edited by regularfeller on Sun 06/14/15 02:16 AM
You want proof? Me getting a girlfriend oughta provide proof! :laughing:

ohwell hello...anyone you there?


Uh, was trying to quote blondey...

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Thu 06/18/15 11:24 AM
I couldn't date someone who had strict religious beliefs. One's I would never adhere to. I may want different things for my life, than what he wants. You have to be very careful about your own beliefs not clashing with the lovers beliefs. I can't see myself dating someone who believes in terrorism, who wants to destroy western countries. I just won't stand for that. I have OTHER beliefs. I couldn't just date anyone. I think I'm destined to not have a lover ever again.

Lukinfolov's photo
Thu 06/18/15 11:40 AM

I couldn't date someone who had strict religious beliefs. One's I would never adhere to. I may want different things for my life, than what he wants. You have to be very careful about your own beliefs not clashing with the lovers beliefs. I can't see myself dating someone who believes in terrorism, who wants to destroy western countries. I just won't stand for that. I have OTHER beliefs. I couldn't just date anyone. I think I'm destined to not have a lover ever again.


There are many atheists, like me, who don't have any beliefs. I understand some thing and I don't understand some other things...but I would never believe in something without evidence or logic.

mysticalview21's photo
Thu 06/18/15 12:29 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Thu 06/18/15 12:37 PM
OP I now being older and have gone to many churches and raised one way or another with beliefs from childhood ... believe in my own belief or what I think is right ... feel if there is a god... will judge you ... not humans spirits in this form as we are now ... most grow up knowing right from wrong but that is questionable also in cultures ... I believe in spirits an that we are all spirits ... I believe we can be reincarnated ... I believe in the universe ... which we are in now ... I believe if there is a heaven it is what your own heaven is ... in your own personal mind ... or what you think it is or should be ... and hope that is what we find out... when its our time to pass on to a different realm...

Lukinfolov's photo
Thu 06/18/15 01:37 PM

OP I now being older and have gone to many churches and raised one way or another with beliefs from childhood ... believe in my own belief or what I think is right ... feel if there is a god... will judge you ... not humans spirits in this form as we are now ... most grow up knowing right from wrong but that is questionable also in cultures ... I believe in spirits an that we are all spirits ... I believe we can be reincarnated ... I believe in the universe ... which we are in now ... I believe if there is a heaven it is what your own heaven is ... in your own personal mind ... or what you think it is or should be ... and hope that is what we find out... when its our time to pass on to a different realm...


We have evidences of reincarnation, OBE and NDE to indicate there is something called consciousness or spirit. Its not a belief but a reality to understand more about.

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Thu 06/18/15 02:20 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Thu 06/18/15 02:20 PM


I couldn't date someone who had strict religious beliefs. One's I would never adhere to. I may want different things for my life, than what he wants. You have to be very careful about your own beliefs not clashing with the lovers beliefs. I can't see myself dating someone who believes in terrorism, who wants to destroy western countries. I just won't stand for that. I have OTHER beliefs. I couldn't just date anyone. I think I'm destined to not have a lover ever again.


There are many atheists, like me, who don't have any beliefs. I understand some thing and I don't understand some other things...but I would never believe in something without evidence or logic.


what makes you think atheists don't have beliefs? there's no direct evidence that there's no god, and there's not much to say there is...

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Thu 06/18/15 02:43 PM
I don't think I have ever been a relationship with anyone where my beliefs were chapter and verse the same but I have found that if they are similar it does make for a more workable situation because people do seem to expect a couple to have compatible beliefs.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 06/18/15 02:55 PM
I still believe that I'll have another pint, and that is all that matters to me. drinker

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Thu 06/18/15 03:03 PM

As a child I believed in Santa Claus and god but as an adult rational thought tells me otherwise . I now know Santa was dad smitten and as for god I am still waiting for proof of his existence :-)


The year I found out there was no Santa Claus I also found out the Easter Bunny was BS too... It was a bad year Lol

PacificStar48's photo
Thu 06/18/15 09:46 PM
Yea if they tell me Cupid is a fake I am throwing in the towel. lol

regularfeller's photo
Fri 06/19/15 12:50 AM
I don't believe they do, if you can believe that.

But since I'm not of the belief that beliefs matter, then why am I expressing my beliefs?

frustrated I believe you are trying to confuse me even though it is my belief that this belief doesn't matter!!!


Lukinfolov's photo
Fri 06/19/15 02:23 AM
Edited by Lukinfolov on Fri 06/19/15 02:25 AM



I couldn't date someone who had strict religious beliefs. One's I would never adhere to. I may want different things for my life, than what he wants. You have to be very careful about your own beliefs not clashing with the lovers beliefs. I can't see myself dating someone who believes in terrorism, who wants to destroy western countries. I just won't stand for that. I have OTHER beliefs. I couldn't just date anyone. I think I'm destined to not have a lover ever again.


There are many atheists, like me, who don't have any beliefs. I understand some thing and I don't understand some other things...but I would never believe in something without evidence or logic.


what makes you think atheists don't have beliefs? there's no direct evidence that there's no god, and there's not much to say there is...


I am an atheist as I have understood the creation of the universe right from the big-bang and it all looks so meaningful and logical except for its cause. God doesn't fit in there or anywhere. Also, except a few question, most of my questions are answered by the Standard Model.

On the other hand, creation theory is not plausible. It looks like an anecdote and has no logic.

The fact that I am an atheist, is not a result of my belief that there is no God...its just that, to my understanding there is no place of God, as people personify God. But, I don't understand Reincarnation, OBE and NDE etc. which tells me there could be an universal consciousness we are part of.

If you call this universal consciousness as God, then we are on the same page.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/19/15 02:44 AM




I couldn't date someone who had strict religious beliefs. One's I would never adhere to. I may want different things for my life, than what he wants. You have to be very careful about your own beliefs not clashing with the lovers beliefs. I can't see myself dating someone who believes in terrorism, who wants to destroy western countries. I just won't stand for that. I have OTHER beliefs. I couldn't just date anyone. I think I'm destined to not have a lover ever again.


There are many atheists, like me, who don't have any beliefs. I understand some thing and I don't understand some other things...but I would never believe in something without evidence or logic.


what makes you think atheists don't have beliefs? there's no direct evidence that there's no god, and there's not much to say there is...


I am an atheist as I have understood the creation of the universe right from the big-bang and it all looks so meaningful and logical except for its cause. God doesn't fit in there or anywhere. Also, except a few question, most of my questions are answered by the Standard Model.

On the other hand, creation theory is not plausible. It looks like an anecdote and has no logic.

The fact that I am an atheist, is not a result of my belief that there is no God...its just that, to my understanding there is no place of God, as people personify God. But, I don't understand Reincarnation, OBE and NDE etc. which tells me there could be an universal consciousness we are part of.

If you call this universal consciousness as God, then we are on the same page.


i believe the gods were aliens that brought the god concept with them... as far as the big bang goes, i don't believe in that either, i think the universe is trillions of years old, a big recycling pit that has been around for trillions of years... the big bang theory is to similar to the genesis chapter in the bible, first there was nothing, then there was everything, just to well summed up for me......we as humans are still in our "infancy" stage, if we can live long enough as a species maybe we can start to understand more about the universe and what makes it tick...

Lukinfolov's photo
Fri 06/19/15 03:45 AM
Edited by Lukinfolov on Fri 06/19/15 03:52 AM





I couldn't date someone who had strict religious beliefs. One's I would never adhere to. I may want different things for my life, than what he wants. You have to be very careful about your own beliefs not clashing with the lovers beliefs. I can't see myself dating someone who believes in terrorism, who wants to destroy western countries. I just won't stand for that. I have OTHER beliefs. I couldn't just date anyone. I think I'm destined to not have a lover ever again.


There are many atheists, like me, who don't have any beliefs. I understand some thing and I don't understand some other things...but I would never believe in something without evidence or logic.


what makes you think atheists don't have beliefs? there's no direct evidence that there's no god, and there's not much to say there is...


I am an atheist as I have understood the creation of the universe right from the big-bang and it all looks so meaningful and logical except for its cause. God doesn't fit in there or anywhere. Also, except a few question, most of my questions are answered by the Standard Model.

On the other hand, creation theory is not plausible. It looks like an anecdote and has no logic.

The fact that I am an atheist, is not a result of my belief that there is no God...its just that, to my understanding there is no place of God, as people personify God. But, I don't understand Reincarnation, OBE and NDE etc. which tells me there could be an universal consciousness we are part of.

If you call this universal consciousness as God, then we are on the same page.


i believe the gods were aliens that brought the god concept with them... as far as the big bang goes, i don't believe in that either, i think the universe is trillions of years old, a big recycling pit that has been around for trillions of years... the big bang theory is to similar to the genesis chapter in the bible, first there was nothing, then there was everything, just to well summed up for me......we as humans are still in our "infancy" stage, if we can live long enough as a species maybe we can start to understand more about the universe and what makes it tick...


Have fun reading this...I wrote it some 4 years back in a social portal in Qatar.


Genesis: Addendum 1.0 Dated 21st Century AD

In the very beginning, the idea of creation struck God and he snapped his fingers with excitement. Quantum annihilations of matter and anti-matter fluctuated to produce a sudden burst of energy. And God said Let there be light and heat��. And there was a Big Bang!!
Now the void was filled with space and the spirit of God hovered over it. And God saw the light, that it was good; so God said ��Let there be matter��. And the heat condensed the light to small particles of different kinds. God named them quarks. God combined some quarks to form particles with mass and called them neutrons. God separated particles like, photons, electrons or positrons from the neutrons to give other particles which he named protons. God played with matter and created other similar particles like Neutrinos, Gravitons, Bosons and Fermions etc.

God commanded ��Let there be forces�� and all matter started having the strong, weak, the electrostatic and the gravitational forces. Electrons clouded around protons and God named them Hydrogen Atoms. Hydrogen atoms in zillions filled all space which started grouping together due to gravity forming stars and galaxies.

God rested for some billion years while stars formed, glowed and exploded to form novas, supernovas and hyper-novas. In the supernovas and hyper-novas, hydrogen atoms, under extreme pressures and temperatures gradually combined to form higher elements which God called Helium, Beryllium, Carbon, Nitrogen etc.

Suddenly, a hyper-nova exploded and a cloud of star-dust containing hydrogen and all other higher elements ejected out at enormous force. God had another good idea and he spun the gas cloud to form a rotating flat disc which formed a star and some planets around it. God wanted to make his abode on one of the planets so chose the earth to create the heavens in some layers of the troposphere.

The rest is history.


mightymoe's photo
Fri 06/19/15 09:22 PM






I couldn't date someone who had strict religious beliefs. One's I would never adhere to. I may want different things for my life, than what he wants. You have to be very careful about your own beliefs not clashing with the lovers beliefs. I can't see myself dating someone who believes in terrorism, who wants to destroy western countries. I just won't stand for that. I have OTHER beliefs. I couldn't just date anyone. I think I'm destined to not have a lover ever again.


There are many atheists, like me, who don't have any beliefs. I understand some thing and I don't understand some other things...but I would never believe in something without evidence or logic.


what makes you think atheists don't have beliefs? there's no direct evidence that there's no god, and there's not much to say there is...


I am an atheist as I have understood the creation of the universe right from the big-bang and it all looks so meaningful and logical except for its cause. God doesn't fit in there or anywhere. Also, except a few question, most of my questions are answered by the Standard Model.

On the other hand, creation theory is not plausible. It looks like an anecdote and has no logic.

The fact that I am an atheist, is not a result of my belief that there is no God...its just that, to my understanding there is no place of God, as people personify God. But, I don't understand Reincarnation, OBE and NDE etc. which tells me there could be an universal consciousness we are part of.

If you call this universal consciousness as God, then we are on the same page.


i believe the gods were aliens that brought the god concept with them... as far as the big bang goes, i don't believe in that either, i think the universe is trillions of years old, a big recycling pit that has been around for trillions of years... the big bang theory is to similar to the genesis chapter in the bible, first there was nothing, then there was everything, just to well summed up for me......we as humans are still in our "infancy" stage, if we can live long enough as a species maybe we can start to understand more about the universe and what makes it tick...


Have fun reading this...I wrote it some 4 years back in a social portal in Qatar.


Genesis: Addendum 1.0 Dated 21st Century AD

In the very beginning, the idea of creation struck God and he snapped his fingers with excitement. Quantum annihilations of matter and anti-matter fluctuated to produce a sudden burst of energy. And God said Let there be light and heat��. And there was a Big Bang!!
Now the void was filled with space and the spirit of God hovered over it. And God saw the light, that it was good; so God said ��Let there be matter��. And the heat condensed the light to small particles of different kinds. God named them quarks. God combined some quarks to form particles with mass and called them neutrons. God separated particles like, photons, electrons or positrons from the neutrons to give other particles which he named protons. God played with matter and created other similar particles like Neutrinos, Gravitons, Bosons and Fermions etc.

God commanded ��Let there be forces�� and all matter started having the strong, weak, the electrostatic and the gravitational forces. Electrons clouded around protons and God named them Hydrogen Atoms. Hydrogen atoms in zillions filled all space which started grouping together due to gravity forming stars and galaxies.

God rested for some billion years while stars formed, glowed and exploded to form novas, supernovas and hyper-novas. In the supernovas and hyper-novas, hydrogen atoms, under extreme pressures and temperatures gradually combined to form higher elements which God called Helium, Beryllium, Carbon, Nitrogen etc.

Suddenly, a hyper-nova exploded and a cloud of star-dust containing hydrogen and all other higher elements ejected out at enormous force. God had another good idea and he spun the gas cloud to form a rotating flat disc which formed a star and some planets around it. God wanted to make his abode on one of the planets so chose the earth to create the heavens in some layers of the troposphere.

The rest is history.




you just added the two things i don't really believe, god creating everything and the big bang... other than that, it makes sense in a natural way...

Lukinfolov's photo
Sat 06/20/15 01:44 AM







I couldn't date someone who had strict religious beliefs. One's I would never adhere to. I may want different things for my life, than what he wants. You have to be very careful about your own beliefs not clashing with the lovers beliefs. I can't see myself dating someone who believes in terrorism, who wants to destroy western countries. I just won't stand for that. I have OTHER beliefs. I couldn't just date anyone. I think I'm destined to not have a lover ever again.


There are many atheists, like me, who don't have any beliefs. I understand some thing and I don't understand some other things...but I would never believe in something without evidence or logic.


what makes you think atheists don't have beliefs? there's no direct evidence that there's no god, and there's not much to say there is...


I am an atheist as I have understood the creation of the universe right from the big-bang and it all looks so meaningful and logical except for its cause. God doesn't fit in there or anywhere. Also, except a few question, most of my questions are answered by the Standard Model.

On the other hand, creation theory is not plausible. It looks like an anecdote and has no logic.

The fact that I am an atheist, is not a result of my belief that there is no God...its just that, to my understanding there is no place of God, as people personify God. But, I don't understand Reincarnation, OBE and NDE etc. which tells me there could be an universal consciousness we are part of.

If you call this universal consciousness as God, then we are on the same page.


i believe the gods were aliens that brought the god concept with them... as far as the big bang goes, i don't believe in that either, i think the universe is trillions of years old, a big recycling pit that has been around for trillions of years... the big bang theory is to similar to the genesis chapter in the bible, first there was nothing, then there was everything, just to well summed up for me......we as humans are still in our "infancy" stage, if we can live long enough as a species maybe we can start to understand more about the universe and what makes it tick...


Have fun reading this...I wrote it some 4 years back in a social portal in Qatar.


Genesis: Addendum 1.0 Dated 21st Century AD

In the very beginning, the idea of creation struck God and he snapped his fingers with excitement. Quantum annihilations of matter and anti-matter fluctuated to produce a sudden burst of energy. And God said Let there be light and heat��. And there was a Big Bang!!
Now the void was filled with space and the spirit of God hovered over it. And God saw the light, that it was good; so God said ��Let there be matter��. And the heat condensed the light to small particles of different kinds. God named them quarks. God combined some quarks to form particles with mass and called them neutrons. God separated particles like, photons, electrons or positrons from the neutrons to give other particles which he named protons. God played with matter and created other similar particles like Neutrinos, Gravitons, Bosons and Fermions etc.

God commanded ��Let there be forces�� and all matter started having the strong, weak, the electrostatic and the gravitational forces. Electrons clouded around protons and God named them Hydrogen Atoms. Hydrogen atoms in zillions filled all space which started grouping together due to gravity forming stars and galaxies.

God rested for some billion years while stars formed, glowed and exploded to form novas, supernovas and hyper-novas. In the supernovas and hyper-novas, hydrogen atoms, under extreme pressures and temperatures gradually combined to form higher elements which God called Helium, Beryllium, Carbon, Nitrogen etc.

Suddenly, a hyper-nova exploded and a cloud of star-dust containing hydrogen and all other higher elements ejected out at enormous force. God had another good idea and he spun the gas cloud to form a rotating flat disc which formed a star and some planets around it. God wanted to make his abode on one of the planets so chose the earth to create the heavens in some layers of the troposphere.

The rest is history.




you just added the two things i don't really believe, god creating everything and the big bang... other than that, it makes sense in a natural way...


Well, I know this doesn't make sense but take it with a pinch of salt...a futile attempt to reconcile the religious folks with the atheists :-)

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Sat 06/20/15 04:19 AM
My beliefs play a big role in who I am. If a chick don't like my beliefs, then she better make a mean lasagne.. :thumbsup:

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