Topic: Ashley Madison And The Clergy
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Sat 08/29/15 06:05 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-chuck-currie/ashley-madison-and-the-cl_b_8057690.html

Some are predicting that over 400 clergy and religious leaders will resign their positions this Sunday after their names appeared on the Ashley Madison list.

This just cracks me up Lol.. Preaching all week long and surfing the web for tail in the night..

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Sat 08/29/15 06:23 PM
I thought with the whole Clinton debacle cheating was okay, it's just not okay to lie about it under oath.

Preaching all week long and surfing the web for tail in the night.

That's like 90% of all internet forum/comment section participants.

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Sat 08/29/15 06:28 PM
I don't really think that is surprising
I am certain there will be all kinds of names on that list
of so called respected family men who spout off how important marriage and commitment is ..
great many married people who surf the web and find chat rooms with pretty girls or attractive men to talk to
some that do so with an agenda to meet up with someone in secret

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Sat 08/29/15 07:41 PM
I am sure the list will lead to many revelations and in reality take down a lot of people across all walks of life.

What makes me laugh the most is when people are hypocrites. The ones who talk a good game but play by a different set of rules when it comes to them. Like the 400 or so preachers.. and surely others. they are not alone, but they are supposingly held above this type of behavior by there own words... they preach it to their followers, most every chance they get.

I mean lets face it, if these preachers do in fact resign their positions (or anyone else for that matter), it is not because of some sort of sole searching. It is because they got caught.. plain and simple.

And to add insult to injury, it now looks like 11 million men were registered, but only a few 1,000 women. And there seems to be a question of if even those women were real. So, it may be that millions of guys were talking to or sending messages to bots... or employees poising as women.

now that is funny

going to be interesting to see who's name pops up.

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Sat 08/29/15 07:55 PM
I must admit, i had to look up what Ashley Madison was...

It doesn't surprise me one bit that this happens.

What makes me shake my head, is that they probably thought they could get away with it without any consequence in the first place.

It would be interesting to find out what some of them would say to try to defend themselves, tho..spin spin spin away...

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Sat 08/29/15 07:58 PM
Of course I started this thread only after plugging my name in and making sure nothing popped up... it was a tense few seconds Lol

JK

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Sat 08/29/15 07:59 PM
The plot thickens... :laughing:

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Sat 08/29/15 08:06 PM
Lol..

But, I don't know how someone could spin out of this?.. I really don't. I suppose some will try to say that someone else used their e-mail account.. but I wouldn't buy that line.

I read where 2 people committed suicide because of this.. so the ramifications are huge. I also read where there were only 3 zip codes in all of America that did NOT have a member registered... only 3!

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Sat 08/29/15 08:24 PM
Edited by Pansytilly on Sat 08/29/15 08:24 PM
You would be surprised at what some people can say and do to try to save face. I know i have.

Some will likely admit to the error of their ways and repent (real or not)

But im sure there will be those that will justify and use it to gain more followers. I have seen it happen. And they are good at it...very charismatic and convincing. People can be very forgiving and forgetful when the right lines are fed at the right time.

With the right media coverage, for sure, it will be interesting.

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Sat 08/29/15 09:00 PM
It's sad actually as most were just paying for the fantasy of having an affair. The site was rampant with fake female profiles easily traced back to the corporation.


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Sat 08/29/15 09:37 PM

Lol..

But, I don't know how someone could spin out of this?.. I really don't. I suppose some will try to say that someone else used their e-mail account.. but I wouldn't buy that line.

I read where 2 people committed suicide because of this.. so the ramifications are huge. I also read where there were only 3 zip codes in all of America that did NOT have a member registered... only 3!

I have noticed that cougarlife.com has been advertising pretty heavily on some unexpected channels, I'm guessing the majority of real paying members on Ashely Madison were men.
Shameless diversion IMO but if it weren't remotely profitable they wouldn't be in business.

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Sat 08/29/15 09:59 PM
The overwhelming majority were men duped by fake female profiles. The founder sits on $100 million gained fraudulently.

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Sat 08/29/15 10:05 PM

The overwhelming majority were men duped by fake female profiles. The founder sits on $100 million gained fraudulently.

Well honestly they weren't real genuine themselves were they?

Every few years there is some huge sex scandal and everyone talks about it but it seems the cheaters never learn

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Sat 08/29/15 10:25 PM
I just hope they find the hackers and prosecute them as well. Seems like an extortion plot that failed.

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Sat 08/29/15 11:01 PM

The overwhelming majority were men duped by fake female profiles. The founder sits on $100 million gained fraudulently.


It seems that the way Ashley Madison had it set up was that you had to pay is sending / receiving messages and sending virtual gifts such as roses or other type things to entice "women". So they would string you along by having messages from "women" sent to you, prompting your replies.. and gifts to them thus more revenue for AM. plus regular members fees.. there was a price tag on everything. problem is.. there were no women... and that is fraud.

quite a scam

It also seems many used their work e-mail accounts, which I am sure will get them a quick pink slip.

The hackers claimed they wanted to ruin AM. I don't think is was extortion. I think these guys will just hack anything they can, just to be able to say they did it. But unlike some other hack ins, this one has a effect on 10's of millions of people worldwide.



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Sun 08/30/15 01:05 AM
Some are predicting that over 400 clergy and religious leaders will resign their positions this Sunday after their names appeared on the Ashley Madison list. As many of you know, this website facilitated affairs.

Many will be understandably frustrated and hurt by the news that their pastor appeared on this list. This will be particularly true for those clergy who have preached monogamy and who have attacked gay marriage as an assault on traditional marriages. Clearly, this will be seen as hypocrisy and unfitting for those serving churches.

So what do we do and where do we go from here? As a minister and as a husband, I believe that the marriage relationship is one that is a kin to a covenantal relationship. We are to be supportive of one another and in the words of Scripture we are to be subject to one another.

Still, clergy are human and prone to human error. That does not mean, however, that all clergy are having affairs or misusing their positions for financial gain or other purposes that are in conflict with their call to ministry.

The real tragedy is the hypocrisy that so many clergy engage in. Clergy often present themselves as somehow more perfect or more holy than the average parishioner. This is a terrible mistake. We are all flawed.

President Jimmy Carter, a born-again Christian, was openly mocked decades ago when he declared that he had sinned in his heart. But it was a deeply honest answer from a Christian struggling with his faith and trying to be the best husband that he could be. In retrospect, I hope that people see his openness as a demonstration of what it means to be an authentic Christian.

We need more of this from our church leaders. We need to be able to admit that we are not perfect people and that our lives are a journey and that none of us has reached perfection. We need to be humble and to embrace our flawed humanity as we seek through our faith and experience to better ourselves.

It is also a mistake, if not a sin, to point other people (such as gays and lesbians) and suggest that they are a threat to the institution of marriage. Straight people have been messing up the institution of marriage as we now understand it for as long as it has been around.

Ultimately, families and individual churches will have to wrestle with how to respond if their church pastor is found to be on this list. My sincere hope is that whenever possible we seek to offer appropriate forgiveness and to look for ways to bring reconciliation to broken relationships.

Spouses should be given the space to determine what that best means for them under these difficult circumstances. Yes, sometimes that will mean separation or divorce and there is nothing unChristian about responding in such away. We can never know all the dynamics involved in a marriage that is not our own. Nor should we judge if a couple decides to stay together and repair the breach that has been broken.

As for the rest of us, we should not take glee in the Ashley Madison leak. We shoud seriously contemplate the words uttered by Jesus that are recorded in Matthew 7:3 (NRSV):

"Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?"

Who among us can say that we have not stumbled or fallen in one way or another over the course of our lives?

Here is the article.

Sad.

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Sun 08/30/15 05:42 AM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Sun 08/30/15 05:51 AM
I remember a lawsuit a couple of years ago, a woman claimed she got injured while creating 1000 fake profiles for the site. It was unsuccessful but should have been a wake up call.

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/a-woman-is-suing-ashley-madison-after-making-hundreds-of-fake-profiles


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Sun 08/30/15 06:03 AM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Sun 08/30/15 06:11 AM
One small thing to note about the stories involved with this so far...

"Membership" means certain things. Specifically, it refers, at least for all of the purposes of all of the stories here, to PAID MEMBERSHIP.

This is important, if you actually want to understand what is going on, to recognize who did what and how and why.

For one thing, the fact that there were so few "female memberships" is thus misleading. There were far fewer PAID FEMALE MEMBERSHIPS.

There are also far more males who pay women for sex, than women who pay men for sex. But this doesn't mean that lots of women aren't having illicit sex with men.

It's why MOST dating sites have more paid males than paid females, and why so many bars and restaurants over the years have had so-called "ladies nights," but never any "gentlemen's nights."

In other words, just because the paid membership levels are so different, doesn't mean that only 1000 women on the site were real. But it does mean that since only the PAID members are being exposed, that far more MEN will be scandalized than women, no matter how many women did actively participate.






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Sun 08/30/15 06:08 AM
By the way, as for all the ostentatiously self-righteous posturing jerks of the world who are being exposed by this, although I am always pleased to see such evil infectious and destructive people brought low, at the same time, I am frustrated.

Because I have always thought, and continue to be sure, that simply the fact that they DO ostentatiously and maliciously posture self-righteously, and they DO work to damage other people's lives...

...should be enough, in and of itself, for the rest of us to bring them up short. Especially those of us who claim to believe in the high moral and or religious principles that such people pretend drive them to treat strangers so brutally.

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Thu 09/03/15 06:05 AM
You can search the Ashley Madison database at http://nomorelies.pw