Topic: D.Trump: nobody had guns but the bad guys
mightymoe's photo
Sat 11/14/15 05:18 PM
Real-estate mogul Donald Trump argued on Saturday that the terrorist attack in Paris the previous night would have been "much, much different" if people there had been armed.

"When you look at Paris — the toughest gun laws in the world, Paris — nobody had guns but the bad guys. Nobody. Nobody had guns," Trump said at a presidential campaign rally in Beaumont, Texas.

"They were just shooting them one by one," the Republican presidential front-runner lamented.

Most of Friday night's violence occurred at Paris' Bataclan concert venue, where attackers opened fire and then took hostages. Authorities said at least 89 people were killed there.

Trump did not say what exactly would have been different if Parisians had gun rights, or that the 129 people who authorities have said died in the series of attacks would have been saved. However, he suggested that right-to-carry laws would have helped to stop the attackers, who were armed with machine guns and explosives.

"I'll tell you what. You can say what you want, but if they had guns — if our people had guns, if they were allowed to carry — it would've been a much, much different situation," he said to cheers.

Trump then noted that much of the gun violence in the US occurs in cities that have strict gun laws.

"I hear it all the time," he said. "You look at certain cities that have the highest violence, the highest problem with guns and shootings and killings. Chicago as an example, toughest gun laws in the United States. Nothing but problems. So our country better get smart, because we're not smart right now."

He also said the Paris attacks clarified how "insane" it would be for the US to take in a large number of Syrian refugees fleeing the violence there.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-paris-massacre-nobody-204712964.html

Datwasntme's photo
Sat 11/14/15 05:36 PM
as much as the usa loves to make wars and start trouble
i think it would be really stupid to give up are guns

just look around you can see how well that has gone for others

mightymoe's photo
Sat 11/14/15 05:43 PM

as much as the usa loves to make wars and start trouble
i think it would be really stupid to give up are guns

just look around you can see how well that has gone for others

i think Chicago, one of the strictest gun laws in the nation, is averaging about 15-20 shootings a week, second highest in the US...

Rock's photo
Sat 11/14/15 05:44 PM
I'm sure there are exceptions.
But, even where folks can own and carry. Most, don't carry at concerts.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 11/14/15 05:46 PM

I'm sure there are exceptions.
But, even where folks can own and carry. Most, don't carry at concerts.


yea, but there is armed security at most concerts in the US... i have yet to not see 25 police at one...

Rock's photo
Sat 11/14/15 06:05 PM


I'm sure there are exceptions.
But, even where folks can own and carry. Most, don't carry at concerts.


yea, but there is armed security at most concerts in the US... i have yet to not see 25 police at one...


True, in most cases.
However, I've been to concerts recently, that have had less than five armed security guards present. None, positioned inside the venue.

Getting inside, was alot like the airport. Absolutely nothing that could even remotely be considered a weapon, was allowed in.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 11/14/15 06:22 PM



I'm sure there are exceptions.
But, even where folks can own and carry. Most, don't carry at concerts.


yea, but there is armed security at most concerts in the US... i have yet to not see 25 police at one...


True, in most cases.
However, I've been to concerts recently, that have had less than five armed security guards present. None, positioned inside the venue.

Getting inside, was alot like the airport. Absolutely nothing that could even remotely be considered a weapon, was allowed in.


yea, well... an AK47 isn't something that's easy to conceal, like a handgun... i don't know the details about the concert, but that seems that would be hard to do over here with all the police everywhere...

no photo
Sat 11/14/15 06:33 PM
I bet you could arm an infantry division if all the firearms were accounted for at a JayZ concert....

mightymoe's photo
Sat 11/14/15 06:59 PM

I bet you could arm an infantry division if all the firearms were accounted for at a JayZ concert....


one of the reasons why there's 25 cops at the concerts nowadays...

Lpdon's photo
Sat 11/14/15 07:02 PM

I'm sure there are exceptions.
But, even where folks can own and carry. Most, don't carry at concerts.


Here in Nevada they carry to concerts.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 11/14/15 11:36 PM
welcome to Europe,where only Military,Cops and Criminals are carrying!laugh

Rock's photo
Sun 11/15/15 03:03 PM


I'm sure there are exceptions.
But, even where folks can own and carry. Most, don't carry at concerts.


Here in Nevada they carry to concerts.


Don, I lived there for many years. I know. :laughing: