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Topic: Why are blacks less valued than whites in the media
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Sun 11/22/15 12:52 PM



I think that one major problem is media itself.

Stop listening to the PROAGANDA, start living a normal life with a lot less Fear.


I certainly cannot speak for anyone else, but I don't see people living in fear. I see people determined to beat this.

I live right across the river from NYC, you can ( or could) see the twin towers clearly.. couldn't help but see them. and I and millions of others stood there and watched them come down.

I saw shock.. total shock... and disbelieve, and a lot of people crying..men and women.And after it set in as to what actually happened, a collective rage. But I did not see fear.. and still don't, regardless of what is in the media. and NYC ( and other countries that have been hit already) does not live in fear., the people refuse to.

I see determination, not fear.

The terrorist are banking on the fear factor.. which the civilized world has already proved to be ineffective



it was like unreal as a few of us saw the news channels halfway across the globe - camp / construction site. then a second plane? something from H.Wood; channel mix-up(?) and then the disaster started to filter in.

just can't imagine how you witnessed it first hand,


It was surreal.. at first.. then very real.

One thing I will never forget was the smell, like burnt concrete, but sickening sweet. It was on everything, for months. A constant dust in the air. I Had two brothers right there. 1 a fireman (he was lucky that day.) He stayed there for rescue, then recovery. the other works for the NYC DOT, he drove one of the dump trucks up that ramp every night for 6 months to the S.I. landfill. So the bones could be sifted out of the debris. Both don't talk much about it.. actually never.

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Sun 11/22/15 01:38 PM

I don't think it has anything to do with colour. There's a big difference in impact. There are places where there's an ongoing war for yonks. It is still in the news, but the impact of that news lessens with time. That's normal, psychological.
What happened in Paris, was totally unexpected, a totally new event. Not in a war zone. So the impact of that is huge.
Same as 9/11's impact was tremendous. No one expected that.
In a war zone you do expect chit to happen. Take Israel. I cannot remember a day in my life that it wasn't in the news because of war, bombings etc. It doesn't really affect me much, because it's normal. May sound horrible, but it's the truth.
I'd be shocked if one day the news would say there's permanent truce and peace in the Middle East.

Also quite logical that what's going on in your own back yard is more important than what's going on further away. Because it affects us directly.
Colour has nothing to do with it.
To be honest, I find such questions extremely jarring. Why do we constantly have to defend that we're not racists? It's starting to wear very very thin.

Have you checked if African countries covered what happened in Paris/Europe properly? Or did they give more attention to what's going on in their own backyards? If so, that would mean they'd discriminate us white people.
That isn't right! Start a protest against that!

Seeing as how Mali was a French colony and that being among the reasons for the attack in the first place I'm sure their news would have covered it in French. Besides that, Paris is among the great cultural cities of the world for many races religions and nationalities.

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Mon 11/23/15 01:14 AM
Interesting feedback and somewhat predictable from certain quarters but In essence to some opinion I feel the following needs to be addressed. In 2014 isis killed approx 6000 " victims". Boko harem for the same period killed 6600, a 10% higher mortality rate. ( source: international terror watch)
I, like a few others online are well read and listen not only to western news feeds such as BBC and CNN but also to alternates such as AL Jazeera and RT as well as independent press.
The question wasn't relating to troops on the ground and Ak47s ..(.where were they in Rawanda? ) it was referring to the observation that attacks in western white countries generate more air time than prolonged wars in distant or third world countries.
Media and commercial interests will always prevail, wether we like it or not, until there is a shift in human values.

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Mon 11/23/15 04:52 AM

Why is it that isis can hog the headlines of the world media especially in light of the Paris attacks yet boco harem in central Africa recieve paltry coverage at best for there terror, yet have killed more???
Answer: because the white populace of the western world care little about there fellow man, uncomfortable to the deniers but the truth? I think so.


Your premise is flawed. You assume that Boko harem has received paltry coverage when the opposite is true.

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Mon 11/23/15 06:44 AM

Interesting feedback and somewhat predictable from certain quarters but In essence to some opinion I feel the following needs to be addressed. In 2014 isis killed approx 6000 " victims". Boko harem for the same period killed 6600, a 10% higher mortality rate. ( source: international terror watch)
I, like a few others online are well read and listen not only to western news feeds such as BBC and CNN but also to alternates such as AL Jazeera and RT as well as independent press.
The question wasn't relating to troops on the ground and Ak47s ..(.where were they in Rawanda? ) it was referring to the observation that attacks in western white countries generate more air time than prolonged wars in distant or third world countries.
Media and commercial interests will always prevail, wether we like it or not, until there is a shift in human values.

perhaps you were the one not paying attention?

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Mon 11/23/15 06:51 AM

People got fed up with media coverage of Africa after The Great Vuvuzela Overload Epidemic at the 2010 World Cup.....

even teed off Adolph!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ln_rqPpPk
rofl

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Mon 11/23/15 05:58 PM
Please read my original post again. I do know what I'm referring too, and once again the question was not about foreign aid/ak47,s/ white men in africa/vuvuzelas or ebola. It was about the balance of publicity afforded to different acts of terrorism in different parts of the world.
I have seen two reasoned responses, I thank you and I agree with your opinions.
The rest are not worthy of comment.

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Mon 11/23/15 06:04 PM
I don't know how it is in other nation, but in the USA, Boko Haram has received plenty of attention in the press.

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Mon 11/23/15 09:34 PM
Edited by TBone5280 on Mon 11/23/15 09:35 PM
The media will follow the news that sells, always has. The US and other "white" countries have given more food and aid to the needy countries in Africa over many decades, and continue to give more aid today than any other "non-white" countries combined. You sir, do not know what the hell you are talking about.


how stupid...none of the the terrorists should be headlining news... maybe you should save your anti white sediments another website...

THANK YOU gentlemen!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

To the OP: Are you arguing that somehow, there should be some sort of "equal time" granted for Boko Haram as compared to al Qaeda/ISIS??!? (Seriously?)

If so, I would STRONGLY argue that you're looking at the situation in an unrealistic manner:

Boko Haram kills people in a "typical" manner - guns, grenades, maybe the occasional machete, etc. (That is NOT to say that ANY of those deaths are inconsequential, or they're not apocalyptically important to the people affected!)

ISIS on the other hand is ALL about "making an impact by using the media"!!! ISIS has displayed a SHOCKING understanding of Western media, & they've exploited that understanding to the utmost! Instead of "guns, grenades, maybe the occasional machete", ISIS locks their victims into iron cages & burns them alive. Or hangs them from chains (& burns them alive). Or beheads their victims using det cord. Or hacks off their heads using a Bowie knife. ANYTHING to cause SHOCK & HORROR to the Western audience that hears of those atrocities.

As I wrote the above, it occurred to me that there is an EXCELLENT analogy to use for ISIS - think of someone who places a large flashlight on the floor, aimed at a wall... And then capers and dances about, making sure that he casts the *largest* shadow possible on the wall... THAT is ISIS.

NOW - given the absolutely-MASSIVE disparity in media savvy by the two groups - do you SERIOUSLY still think that a piddly 10% disparity in coverage is due to racism??!? HELL, you could make a VERY strong argument that Boko Haram is OVER-REPRESENTED in news articles!! slaphead whoa

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Mon 11/23/15 11:44 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 11/23/15 11:49 PM

I don't know how it is in other nation, but in the USA, Boko Haram has received plenty of attention in the press.


I guess its subjective to how an individual views 'plenty' and 'barely any'

there are plenty of media sources to find 'news',,,I think the mainstream channels(non cable, national networks) are scarce on actual news and will reflect the interests and priorities of their sponsors, which are usually not AFricans,,,,

I think there are also certain stereotypes/expectations,, that make some situations seem less 'newsworthy' because they are believed to be so common

so, a jock being raped would probably make front page for instance, but a girl on a date,, would be just one of the many that happen fairly regularly..


same with how africa is viewed, violence there is seen as a fairly 'regular' part of the culture, and doesnt seem as newsworthy (unless children are involved, children trump everything) as a slaughter in a more 'civilized' society,,,

and then there are also trending topics

one summer it may be kidnappings, the next it may be racism, ,,,this season its terrorism, last season it was alternate lifestyles, genders and lgbt,

and those topics will always be highlighted,,, kind of like trends in music,,,,they have a huge hit/story and then we see all the media suddenly reporting anything else that slightly resembles it

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Tue 11/24/15 12:25 AM
I posted the original message and now it's occurred to me how far of tangent so opinions go.
Some people are incapable of sticking to the original question, for instance if i quote 10% more fatalities in 2014 from Boko Harem compared to Isis, that does not translate to 10% more publicity in my logic.
All terrorists activities irrespective of size or location should be publicized to raise awareness of what is really going on. Isis grew out of Syria and the West did nothing for the best part of 4 years ...why not?
Israel v Palestine ...since I was born.
Afghanistan.....same.
Unless those that have the resource get real with there rhetoric and shut these wars away once and for all they will never cease.
So why don't they?
Because there is a thriving industry in defence .... no war, no income.
So once again as I said in my opening piece, media pick and choose what they want based on there interests.

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Tue 11/24/15 12:43 AM
The "poor little negro" card, was worn out long ago.

The media reports "news".

Bozo harem, isn't the only thing going on in the world.

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Tue 11/24/15 01:39 AM
Edited by Duttoneer on Tue 11/24/15 02:07 AM

Why is it that isis can hog the headlines of the world media especially in light of the Paris attacks yet boco harem in central Africa recieve paltry coverage at best for there terror, yet have killed more???
Answer: because the white populace of the western world care little about there fellow man, uncomfortable to the deniers but the truth? I think so.


It seems to me the point you wish to make is that you believe the Western world cares little about there fellow man, and you believe this to be true because of what you believe are differing amount of headlines given over to the terrorist atrocities taken place in Africa and Paris.

So, we must ignore the amount of financial aid given by the West to Africa, the amount of medical aid given by the west to Africa, the amount of educational aid given by the west to Africa, by western governments, charities and peoples of the white populace. Sadly the aid can never meet all the need, but I believe this shows that the western world cares about there fellow man, clearly the opposite to what you believe. I suggest you try and look at the bigger picture, not just media coverage, before you draw any conclusions, and particularly at the amount of help given by the western world to Africa,and other countries, which is far more important in arriving at any conclusion in my opinion.

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Tue 11/24/15 05:25 AM

I posted the original message and now it's occurred to me how far of tangent so opinions go.
Some people are incapable of sticking to the original question, for instance if i quote 10% more fatalities in 2014 from Boko Harem compared to Isis, that does not translate to 10% more publicity in my logic.
All terrorists activities irrespective of size or location should be publicized to raise awareness of what is really going on. Isis grew out of Syria and the West did nothing for the best part of 4 years ...why not?
Israel v Palestine ...since I was born.
Afghanistan.....same.
Unless those that have the resource get real with there rhetoric and shut these wars away once and for all they will never cease.
So why don't they?
Because there is a thriving industry in defence .... no war, no income.
So once again as I said in my opening piece, media pick and choose what they want based on there interests.



this is absolutely true and should not surprise anyone

media pick and choose(they must, because at any given moment there is far too much happening around the world to report EVERYTHING, though many seem to believe they do by the insistence that if it hasnt been reported it hasnt happened)

and they choose based on the interests of whomever pays their bills,,,,,and their salaries,,,

media is the 'partial truths', not the whole truth,, thats something that must be sought out by putting together enough partial truths to fill the holes,,,,,

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Tue 11/24/15 08:33 AM
Some people are incapable of sticking to the
original question, for instance if i quote 10%
more fatalities in 2014 from Boko Harem
compared to Isis, that does not translate to
10% more publicity in my logic.
Start your own damn media service then...call it BHN, Boko Haram News. Plenty of people have stated theyve seen ample news coverage on Boko Haram. Deal with it.

I posted initially about vuvuzelas as a joke because when I read this part of your opening post....

"" Answer: because the white populace of the
western world care little about there fellow
man, uncomfortable to the deniers but the
truth? I think so.""

....I figured it HAD to be a joke thread laugh....or, a troll.

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