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Jesus in verse 5 completely debunks the entire spirit in which critics cite Matthew 7.
The ESV Study Bible says it best that, “Jesus does not forbid all evaluation or even judgment of others, for ultimately the one who feels grieved and humbled over his own sin can help remove the “speck” from others. What Jesus does rule out is pride that views oneself as better than others (Gal 6:1).” Dr. MacArthur astutely adds, “As the context reveals, “judge not” does not prohibit all types of judging (v. 16). There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). Censorious, hypocritical, self-righteous, or other kinds of unfair judgments are forbidden; but in order to fulfill the commandments that follow, it is necessary to discern dogs and swine (v. 6) from one’s own brethren (vv. 3–5).“ https://entreatingfavor.com/judge-not/ |
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WHEN THEY JUDGE THEY SPEAK VOLUMES ABOUT THEMSELVES NOT THE OTHER PERSON, IN OTHER-WORDS ITS ALL ABOUT THEM......LET THEM JUDGE IT GIVES ME A CHANCE TO TRULY KNOW THEM.... 
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that's true,,,their knowledge of gods word or their ignorance,, can be feigned from how they judge
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Judge,and be prepared to be judged!
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I agree,, we learn that judgement will come for everyone
its unavoidable |
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what about judges then?
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what about judges then? It is a book in the Old Testament. Why do you ask? |
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 I had a feeling that was coming,,,lol |
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what about judges then? It is a book in the Old Testament. Why do you ask? no, court judges... the seem to be doing a lot of judging others... |
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what about judges then? It is a book in the Old Testament. Why do you ask? no, court judges... the seem to be doing a lot of judging others... I have never courted a judge before, but I suppose that even they need romance, too. 
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what about judges then? It is a book in the Old Testament. Why do you ask? no, court judges... the seem to be doing a lot of judging others... I have never courted a judge before, but I suppose that even they need romance, too. didn't read where this topic was about who want to court... |
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what about judges then? It is a book in the Old Testament. Why do you ask? no, court judges... the seem to be doing a lot of judging others... I have never courted a judge before, but I suppose that even they need romance, too. didn't read where this topic was about who want to court... I have went to court plenty of times, but I have always pleaded innocent. |
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Jesus will judge all people in fact He has said every knee shall bow before Him,, He has already said there is only one way,to heaven He Has already judged
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we all judge. part of life. I am curious what this verse means to you. Jude 9-10 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" NKJV |
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Jesus in verse 5 completely debunks the entire spirit in which critics cite Matthew 7. The ESV Study Bible says it best that, “Jesus does not forbid all evaluation or even judgment of others, for ultimately the one who feels grieved and humbled over his own sin can help remove the “speck” from others. What Jesus does rule out is pride that views oneself as better than others (Gal 6:1).” Dr. MacArthur astutely adds, “As the context reveals, “judge not” does not prohibit all types of judging (v. 16). There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). Censorious, hypocritical, self-righteous, or other kinds of unfair judgments are forbidden; but in order to fulfill the commandments that follow, it is necessary to discern dogs and swine (v. 6) from one’s own brethren (vv. 3–5).“ https://entreatingfavor.com/judge-not/ Sorry if I am ignorant as I didn't go too the link presented. But Jesus always tells us not too judge. He NEVER tells us too "judge" another on the level of our eternal being. Of course lets not pick words apart, as we will always make a "judgement" on someone as in an opinion. But Jesus is specifically referring too our either eternal being or if they are a "good/acceptable" person in the context as too in God's eyes, either they themselves or their actions they committed. And is why we are told we will be judged in the same way as we judge others. |
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I like Cowboys comment, i think everyone should read it. I can simply say to rebuke out of love is okay an example would be when Christ rebuked the devil who was using Peter to talk. Judging on the other hand is something different to a rebuke because you dont know the motives of the person you are judging. Therefore it would be wise to leave judgement to Christ coz He knows it all
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Jesus in verse 5 completely debunks the entire spirit in which critics cite Matthew 7. The ESV Study Bible says it best that, “Jesus does not forbid all evaluation or even judgment of others, for ultimately the one who feels grieved and humbled over his own sin can help remove the “speck” from others. What Jesus does rule out is pride that views oneself as better than others (Gal 6:1).” Dr. MacArthur astutely adds, “As the context reveals, “judge not” does not prohibit all types of judging (v. 16). There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). Censorious, hypocritical, self-righteous, or other kinds of unfair judgments are forbidden; but in order to fulfill the commandments that follow, it is necessary to discern dogs and swine (v. 6) from one’s own brethren (vv. 3–5).“ https://entreatingfavor.com/judge-not/ Sorry if I am ignorant as I didn't go too the link presented. But Jesus always tells us not too judge. He NEVER tells us too "judge" another on the level of our eternal being. Of course lets not pick words apart, as we will always make a "judgement" on someone as in an opinion. But Jesus is specifically referring too our either eternal being or if they are a "good/acceptable" person in the context as too in God's eyes, either they themselves or their actions they committed. And is why we are told we will be judged in the same way as we judge others. jesus did not say not to judge, he says to judge with righteous judgment john 7 23"If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath? 24"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." but you are correct in the differences, there is judgment of our soul which is left to God and there is judgment of actions and words,, which we must have in order to guide our own choices Jesus immediate called her action 'sin' after saving the adulteress,, although he said he was not condemning her two types of judgment,,judging her action(calling sin sin} and judging her soul{not condemning her} |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Tue 05/03/16 08:17 PM
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Jesus in verse 5 completely debunks the entire spirit in which critics cite Matthew 7. The ESV Study Bible says it best that, “Jesus does not forbid all evaluation or even judgment of others, for ultimately the one who feels grieved and humbled over his own sin can help remove the “speck” from others. What Jesus does rule out is pride that views oneself as better than others (Gal 6:1).” Dr. MacArthur astutely adds, “As the context reveals, “judge not” does not prohibit all types of judging (v. 16). There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). Censorious, hypocritical, self-righteous, or other kinds of unfair judgments are forbidden; but in order to fulfill the commandments that follow, it is necessary to discern dogs and swine (v. 6) from one’s own brethren (vv. 3–5).“ https://entreatingfavor.com/judge-not/ Sorry if I am ignorant as I didn't go too the link presented. But Jesus always tells us not too judge. He NEVER tells us too "judge" another on the level of our eternal being. Of course lets not pick words apart, as we will always make a "judgement" on someone as in an opinion. But Jesus is specifically referring too our either eternal being or if they are a "good/acceptable" person in the context as too in God's eyes, either they themselves or their actions they committed. And is why we are told we will be judged in the same way as we judge others. jesus did not say not to judge, he says to judge with righteous judgment john 7 23"If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath? 24"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." but you are correct in the differences, there is judgment of our soul which is left to God and there is judgment of actions and words,, which we must have in order to guide our own choices Jesus immediate called her action 'sin' after saving the adulteress,, although he said he was not condemning her two types of judgment,,judging her action(calling sin sin} and judging her soul{not condemning her} it is very important too keep verses in context. I have included a few verses prior too the "John 7:23" verse. This verse is in context with making an "opinion" and not on an eternal level. And if you connect the two verses' meaning, God is telling us too judge people with a righteous heart as we will be judged as we judge others. John 7 19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? 20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee? 21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man. 23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day? 24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. |
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what about judges then? It is a book in the Old Testament. Why do you ask? no, court judges... the seem to be doing a lot of judging others... Ah! yes,  * Good Judges Never Judge. true */Some fall asleep or look bored and sleepy.(smart Judge) */Some adjourn, often passing the case to a different Judge, that once again will adjourn. (smart Judge) ** This strategy forces all parties to resolve and the Judge only endorses their mutual decision. See no Judgment! Smart! * Bad Judges are most often young and inexperienced at wielding power. * They make: 1/decisions 2/ based on previous law 3/ show interest 4/ pompous at dinner parties TRUE
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Jesus in verse 5 completely debunks the entire spirit in which critics cite Matthew 7. The ESV Study Bible says it best that, “Jesus does not forbid all evaluation or even judgment of others, for ultimately the one who feels grieved and humbled over his own sin can help remove the “speck” from others. What Jesus does rule out is pride that views oneself as better than others (Gal 6:1).” Dr. MacArthur astutely adds, “As the context reveals, “judge not” does not prohibit all types of judging (v. 16). There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise with careful discernment (John 7:24). Censorious, hypocritical, self-righteous, or other kinds of unfair judgments are forbidden; but in order to fulfill the commandments that follow, it is necessary to discern dogs and swine (v. 6) from one’s own brethren (vv. 3–5).“ https://entreatingfavor.com/judge-not/ Sorry if I am ignorant as I didn't go too the link presented. But Jesus always tells us not too judge. He NEVER tells us too "judge" another on the level of our eternal being. Of course lets not pick words apart, as we will always make a "judgement" on someone as in an opinion. But Jesus is specifically referring too our either eternal being or if they are a "good/acceptable" person in the context as too in God's eyes, either they themselves or their actions they committed. And is why we are told we will be judged in the same way as we judge others. jesus did not say not to judge, he says to judge with righteous judgment john 7 23"If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath? 24"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." but you are correct in the differences, there is judgment of our soul which is left to God and there is judgment of actions and words,, which we must have in order to guide our own choices Jesus immediate called her action 'sin' after saving the adulteress,, although he said he was not condemning her two types of judgment,,judging her action(calling sin sin} and judging her soul{not condemning her} it is very important too keep verses in context. I have included a few verses prior too the "John 7:23" verse. This verse is in context with making an "opinion" and not on an eternal level. And if you connect the two verses' meaning, God is telling us too judge people with a righteous heart as we will be judged as we judge others. John 7 19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? 20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee? 21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel. 22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man. 23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day? 24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. I agree. our labeling sin as sin, is an 'opinion' that we come about righteously( referring to our bible) but sin is the cross of the human race,,, its not a condemnation of the human soul so, in judgeing actions and words, there is no restriction but in judging the soul,, there is |
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