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I've been saved from drowning twice, and several other certain death accidents avoided by doing something out of character more than once; I have instinctively but unknowingly prepared for events, or visited a place exactly when needed, without any known reason (until later); and many other 'miracles'. I don't attribute any of it to any deity or being or thing, other than maybe ancestors on a different plane giving me a 'heads up' here. But I do attribute it to physics and harmonics and chemistry and entropy and interactions of cycles of energy radiation, reflectance, and absorption, etc., all following their own laws without deviation, and occurring in cascades of harmonically timed sequences of events, from sub molecular electron spin and local states of attraction and synchronisation, to intergalactic 'cataclysms'. Cause and effect, energy finding the path of least resistance, anions and cations combining, electrons finding un filled atoms, etc, all happening according to proximity, velocity, direction, attitude, which was set 'just so', because of the entities in question following the same laws the instant before. A nebulous, seemingly chaotic chain of events following logical sequences in waves strictly according to the laws, ad infinitum - that is until matter and other energies no longer interact. Because of distance, trajectory, cold, other. We don't know exactly what the laws are, but everything in this world follows them regardless, from billion year old rocks to quasars, and black holes, and your dinner. No sign of any creator or god or manipulator. Just order appearing as disorder. Even the mysteries of inside quarks, and gravity, etc. have laws they follow for whatever reason. Just because it is mysterious doesn't mean god. So no free will, what is and ever was, is according to the cascade of physics. Sequences of events made you believe what you believe, without divine intervention; but with your interpretations of events you perceived as a result of synaptic chemistry, metered by its component parts (atoms) and their natural entropic chains of events. Good seers do see the future, because it is a natural and inevitable progression of and from what is now, following the laws without deviation. And when I wear my propeller hat with its tin foil lining, I am following the laws of physics, and doing what entropy provided for me to do. No god needed to explain anything. you have given numerous examples of energy and its displacement. and even though we have, we are energy, we still are required to generate the energy by coal, solar, down to creating our own charge and running it through lines to single outlets into your wall. and like the energy of the Universe being self sufficient and it replenishes new life, that all had to begin from something. and all we did was take the building blocks of what makes energy consists of and applied that to all things. and since we have applied energy to all things, knowing for our own energy use we need to literally create it via mathematical formula. the light switch just does not work because Science has applied various forms of Energy to the Universe and to all living things, no, we create that Energy and then harness it for our practical uses. if the Universe then being Energy, still must follow the "Same Laws" we do, required a SOURCE to flip the on switch to start the Universe!! we can use all examples of how we live to how the Universe works. but when it comes to energy, my light switch would never work if that form of energy was not created by Engineering and Science. and the Energy driving the Universe would have never worked until a Spark was ignited and kicked started it...the question is, since energy requires a source, because it is not just is, what was that Source of Ignition? your explanation now hinges on blind luck of what kick started the Energy!! |
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you can push all you want, funches,but those experiences are more motivating than your attempts. you being frozen in fear is neither motivating or prove the existence of a God ...so can you tell of any other experiences that do what i found in them can never be swayed by anyone. but even you yourself claimed to have questioned if it was God ...I call that being swayed and not feeling chosen compared to being chosen are 2 separate realities all together.. except you were bragging about how you emerged from the fiery incident without a scratch and made a reference as to how you were "ONE' of the chosen, but either way it's self-serving and amount to "Hubris" and doesn't prove the existence of God but only that you are using God to place yourself upon a pedestal |
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you really hate that i credit God so much that you want to drill it my membrane that God does not exist and that i am crediting myself instead.
how is my fault that you are so blind? |
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ok funches,
explain this and this was on facebook where all who know me and those involved could chime in and call us liars or confirm what we were discussing...all confirmed btw!! but, i want you to read what i posted and then the reply from my own mother who was in this particular miracle with me and 4 other people who all witnessed. so read and then give me your mumble jumble because i don't buy a single thing you believe is worth selling!! Yesterday at 10:33 AM · i find it interesting that we are almost n the year 2020 and the things i do and say can be found 40 years ago from when Grandpa was stating them. i was thinking the other day, about when i spoke to my Dad about when Grandpa and Grandma McGlynn were in bed after a long and successful Revival had ran its course, and the SNAKE that crawled between them and then began SPEAKING to Grandpa to which Grandpa REBUKED the SNAKE it just VANISHED: then i remembered when Grandpa Jay Ousley passed away and we (my Dad, Mom, Betsy, Nana, Aunt Elaine, and myself) were driving to the funeral and ended up lost in the middle of West Virginia. my Dad prayed and was ready to grab the fuel can and begin walking the long dark highway when out of nowhere (when the literal past 5 hours NO TRAFFIC)a semi pulled over and loaded all of us up. THEN THE REAL STORY BEGINS: the driver of the semi LOOKED AT ALL OF US, KNEW OUR NAMES (we did not say i am...he ALREADY KNEW OUR NAMES AS IN ALL OF OUR NAMES) plus told us that WE WOULD ALL BE in Paradise one day. and then after dropping us off, the highways ran literally up and down steep hills. we watched him leave and head down the first valley but NEVER CAME UP THE OTHER SIDE. we were all like what just happened? by that time our vehicle was ready and we chose to go investigate. we concluded it was an ANGEL OF ALMIGHTY GOD because he was not sitting at the bottom of the valley, he was completely VANISHED and we watched and never saw him drive up the other side. those MIRACLES still happen today but not as often because peeps no longer believe as they did. but i can feel those MIRACLES erupting again because it's the "Last Days." and when they begin happening peeps better better get themselves wholeheartedly right with God!! 6 Comments Marcie: Like aunt Elaine said we have just been entertained by an angel. We didn't understand at the time but the Lord opened our eyes and understanding to what happened. We were saved from something we didn't even know was going on at the time. God revealed it to us when we got to our destination. He's always looking out for us. Delete or hide this Like · Reply · 1d Rich: and just not long ago, remember that guy i work with Bob who i was telling this same story and then called you and you said word for word what i did and he just about had a real JESUS moment there himself? he was a heroine addict and then was placed on the methadone treatment plan. that story and your confirmation hit him that he has not needed to go that treatment plan and not wanting heroine since that time. so this story has POWER because it is ABSOLUTE TRUTH!! Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 1d Marcie: Yes I remember talking with him. Tell him I'm so thankful he's found a true friend in JESUS. Delete or hide this Like · Reply · 1d Rich: i will. he is from Detroit and had friends who believed in God. and he said he knew God existed and was praying a lot in life. sometimes it just takes a literal touch revealing God to know just how real God is to have it finally click for yourself...now he knows that he knows God is REAL hahahahaha this is a TRUE and FACTUAL story that happened to my Aunt, my Grandmother, my Father, my Mother, my Sister, and Myself: you can see my mother discussing this. there are other comments confirming this but i listed my mother since SHE WAS THERE EXPERIENCING THIS WITH ME!! now, are we DELUSIONAL or did we SEE a real Angel of God? |
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and btw, catch what my mother states specifically about finding out later what we were saved from:
so when the miracle happened, it did when we needed it to: |
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and this is in west virginia 1977, no mobile technology or personal laptops.
how does the driver know our names and where we are from with not having the technology to find as such today? this is 1977, probably before you were born. this is black and white tv only. this is when walkie talkies and S.O.S. actually meant something on land!! |
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but anyways, this was not one person, me, experiencing, hearing, seeing, riding in the semi, watching it vanish into thin air...this was SIX PEOPLE experiencing this and all saw the same thing even when asked about afterward. we really all somehow saw the one true angle of what happened. it was not collaborating with bits and pieces, we just all saw it the very same way!!
because God revealed it to us all the SAME WAY!! |
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ok funches, explain this and this was on facebook where all who know me and those involved could chime in and call us liars or confirm what we were discussing...all confirmed btw!! Mark Zuckerberg recently stated that Politicians will be allowed to post lies in their fake ads on facebook which is why Facebook is not a place that confirm Truth but, i want you to read what i posted and then the reply from my own mother who was in this particular miracle with me and 4 other people who all witnessed. so read and then give me your mumble jumble because i don't buy a single thing you believe is worth selling!! cool I get to play Columbo but I must tell you up front that the participates in your stories left out must needed information which caused the stories to debunk themselves... i was thinking the other day, about when i spoke to my Dad about when Grandpa and Grandma McGlynn were in bed after a long and successful Revival had ran its course, and the SNAKE that crawled between them and then began SPEAKING to Grandpa to which Grandpa REBUKED the SNAKE it just VANISHED: this is easy to explain ...Grandpa and Grandma in bed and bone tired after the revival caused Grandma to dream the incident QUESTIONS 1:what did the snake say to Grandma 2: did the pastor handle snakes at the revival then i remembered when Grandpa Jay Ousley passed away and we (my Dad, Mom, Betsy, Nana, Aunt Elaine, and myself) were driving to the funeral and ended up lost in the middle of West Virginia. my Dad prayed and was ready to grab the fuel can and begin walking the long dark highway when out of nowhere (when the literal past 5 hours NO TRAFFIC)a semi pulled over and loaded all of us up. THEN THE REAL STORY BEGINS: the driver of the semi LOOKED AT ALL OF US, KNEW OUR NAMES (we did not say i am...he ALREADY KNEW OUR NAMES AS IN ALL OF OUR NAMES) plus told us that WE WOULD ALL BE in Paradise one day. there are many ways to explain this incident but the one thing that debunk this story is why didn't anyone simply ask the semi driver how he knew their names, that should have been the first thing asked and then after dropping us off, the highways ran literally up and down steep hills. we watched him leave and head down the first valley but NEVER CAME UP THE OTHER SIDE. we were all like what just happened? by that time our vehicle was ready and we chose to go investigate. we concluded it was an ANGEL OF ALMIGHTY GOD because he was not sitting at the bottom of the valley, he was completely VANISHED and we watched and never saw him drive up the other side. remember you guys didn't know that part of the country and got lost but the semi driver could have travel those roads many times and knew of and took an alternative road obstructive from your view now, are we DELUSIONAL or did we SEE a real Angel of God? a good sumerian does not an angel make, also a semi is of the technological knowledge handed down due to the serpent ..so if it was an angel it was Hell's Angel so far all these experiences can be explain using simple logic and/or deduction but show no signs of any Godly intervention ...you got any more? and this is in west virginia 1977, no mobile technology or personal laptops. how does the driver know our names and where we are from with not having the technology to find as such today? semis had CB radios in them ...also your car license plates would have told where you were from...the semi driver driving from town to town could have secretly been dating someone in your family ..lots of reasonable explanations other than being visited by an angel |
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When I had the mindset of my religion I saw angels and miracles all the time.
Now that I am no longer religion-minded, I still see good people doing good things but they certainly are not angels. I am kind, helpful and sincere. I have a knack for reading situations and I pay attention to details. I assure you, I am not an angel yet others have often attributed my acts as divine. They see what they want to see. Its conditioning. Some people are super-sensitive to persuasion. |
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I think it is a human failing that people see what they want to see. Some people will answer your question by trying to give you the answer they think you want to hear.
I'm sure that many people who believe in a deity will see that deity, or related beings like angels, frequently. I would go so far as to say those with a strong belief will see these beings more frequently than those with a less strong belief. Curious fact, Hindu believers will see their deity, who is no doubt a little different from the god that Christian believers see. Believers see the deity they believe in and never one of the others! I wonder why that is? No miracles have ever happened to me, or to anyone I know. Things that seem like a coincidence are just that - a coincidence - and nothing more. But then I'm not gullible! All this 'belief' - with the need to prove something - goes over my head. I don't even understand half of what is said in some posts. |
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funches, your answers are based upon 20/20 after the fact.
you may seem all legit, but even as a part time sheriff, my own father was dumbfounded during the situation with his training. he got the license plate and nothing ever matched to a prior or current registration. it was a made up plate. so go ahead and continue to assume you have a clue, because when it comes to my own experiences, you only know the words you read and nothing else attached to them!! |
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Ciao
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yes just the facts, according to a six year old boy in 1977 who couldn't have
possibly been influenced by the adults in your scenario... oh, maybe you didn't have one, but color television was mosdef around in 1977 hahaha I know I was 27 yrs old then... i'm of the opinion that all of you believed exactly what your father told you to believe...without question #My2Cents |
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Edited by
Argo
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Wed 11/06/19 02:26 PM
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once is enough i don't like repeating myself...
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Edited by
iam_resurrected
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Wed 11/06/19 02:25 PM
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something else that might interest you.
outside of every time i discuss this story i call and see how those are that experienced this with me. and i am not even sure how and why i missed this point, but my Mother said when the semi vanished and we followed to see if we could find it, your Dad went immediately to the State Highway Depot. she says, after the officers called the adults in and questioned them, the Officers confirmed there had been 2 other incidents involving a semi. and that the officers have spent time on that road stretch searching for that semi, and no other drivers seemed to be even aware of that semi in existence. but it was my Dad who was the first person to catch the license plate. |
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yes just the facts, according to a six year old boy in 1977 who couldn't have possibly been influenced by the adults in your scenario... oh, maybe you didn't have one, but color television was mosdef around in 1977 hahaha I know I was 27 yrs old then... i'm of the opinion that all of you believed exactly what your father told you to believe...without question #My2Cents we were driving from Indiana to Western Kentucky for my Grandfather's funeral and the signs routed us to West Virginia because of supposed construction, which the signs were different when we went back. but still, i absolutely do not believe i was coerced into believing anything when in the first grade i was diagnosed with a photogenic memory. i remember it all like it just happened yesterday, all but when my Dad went to the State Police Depot. maybe we were sleeping by then. was a long night. |
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cindy crawford is photogenic
memories are photographic... doesn't matter though, cause i don't believe any of your nonsense anyway |
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Edited by
Argo
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Wed 11/06/19 02:49 PM
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again with the double-up...lol ??
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funches, your answers are based upon 20/20 after the fact. now let's think about it ...from the time the trucker loaded everyone into his semi and then drove everyone to the gas station then drove everyone back to your stranded car no one ask him how he knew everyone names ...that could only take place if one of the adults knew who the trucker were and steered the conversation away from that question you may seem all legit, but even as a part time sheriff, my own father was dumbfounded during the situation with his training. he got the license plate and nothing ever matched to a prior or current registration. it was a made up plate. so let me get this straight...you guys has the forethought to write down the trucker's license plates but didn't ask him how he knew your names so go ahead and continue to assume you have a clue, because when it comes to my own experiences, you only know the words you read and nothing else attached to them!! the words i read are the words you posted .. the Officers confirmed there had been 2 other incidents involving a semi. and that the officers have spent time on that road stretch searching for that semi, and no other drivers seemed to be even aware of that semi in existence. but it was my Dad who was the first person to catch the license plate. see how it seems that the trucker was probably doing something illegal like moonshining and had CB radios to avoid the police breaker breaker you got your ears on good buddy...saw a smokey on route 17 advise you take an alternative...10-4 good buddy over and out cindy crawford is photogenic memories are photographic... his memory clearly not photographic because he clearly don't remember half the stuff he be posting in the forum because that's how i caught him in that "chosen one" lie |
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Jerry, its not a lie if YOU believe its true..............IAM COSTANZA
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