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In the aftermath of Donald Trump's upset victory over former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in November, plenty of liberals made noises about moving north to Canada to get away from a presidency they can't accept, but they might be finding out that it's not as easy as they thought.
Canadian officials have been turning some anti-Trump liberals away from their borders because the leftist Americans fail to contribute to the Canadian economy, according to The Daily Caller. Canada's strict immigration rules don't allow just anyone to come through their borders. When it comes to taking in permanent residents, Canada's government puts a priority on those who will help improve the country because of education, skills or wealth that will contribute to the Canadian economy. Those most welcome are people who "immigrate as a skilled worker," "immigrate by starting a business and creating jobs" or "immigrate by investing in the Canadian economy." Canada's visa website cites a few different types of forms: the general form for workers, the business immigration form for those with management experience, and the family sponsorship form, or parent sponsorship, for parents and guardians. The Daily Caller report contained one amusing story of a New York liberal upset about the November election looking into a permanent move north, only to be cruelly disappointed. "After researching the Canadian immigration system," The Daily Caller pointed out, "the individual posted that he had determined that 'ironically,' as an artist who could not afford to buy property and only rented a loft in Brooklyn, Canada had no desire in taking him in." (Hard to believe any country could turn its back on a self-righteous starving artist from Brooklyn, isn't it?) According to The Economist, Canada values those immigrants most who come to the country with an existing job offer. While the country does admit other immigrants, special priority is given to those who go to the country to work. Of course, Canada has a special immigration policies for refugees facing danger from war or discrimination in their home countries — it has accepted about 40,000 Syrians refugees since 2015 for instance, or about four times as many as the United States took in under former President Obama. But it seems as if simply being against President Donald Trump is not enough. When it first became clear that Trump had won the presidency, heavy use — apparently by U.S. citizens — crashed the Canadian immigration website, according to news reports from the time, and "move to Canada" became one of the top search items on Google. But it turns out Canada has higher standards than the standard Trump-haters probably ever expected. Liberals really need to learn the way the world works. |
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msharmony
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I Agree, people do need to know more about the way the world works.
As someone with a passport who has traveled abroad on a few occasions and who has gone through the immigration process to bring a spouse to the US,, MOVING Is not as easy as many people think, though just VISITING is much easier. pretty much the USA has the same standards for immigration as Canada,, they generally want proof a person has the means (or a sponsor with the means) to support themselves,,,,or that they are being sponsored by an employer unless they are refugees fleeing some persecution the days of 'coming to the US with nothing' are long gone,,,,, thats why I always fantasized about moving to another country only if/when I was of a financial status to do so,, which may never happen. |
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thats why I always fantasized about moving to another country only if/when I was of a financial status to do so,, which may never happen
_____________________________________________________________________ Yep.. that good ole American money is hard to walk away from... isn't it. Well, sometimes fantasies come true ;) |
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there is a difference between NEEDING money and being able to WALK AWAY from it
you need to HAVE something to leave it,,, |
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I tend to say that saying, more as a ploy toward those that consistently complain about political policies or laws. Somewhat silly, but more as just a way to shut them up about their complaints. dude.......you know those **** indeed......surrounding you by meanlessness but hero like whom make it......if causes some mass social protest...........then Bang!~~~~~you knew it.........yes.....the fountain of youth.....but realy knucle drive in some time.............even the frost gum's USA crossing runnig was better more then 99 times....... 
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Is there such a difference in not like a politician or not liking political policies? Many people who are very open in their complaints against government and laws and policies are quick to tell those who dont like a presidential choice that they should leave...... People I LOVE all have some things that they do or say that I do not 'like' why do some not understand it is possible to not like some things about or some people in America without it meaning that you are somehow therefore not American enough to be here,, or should leave? does anyone else see how silly this response is to the grievances of another ? no one needs to leave due to a different point of view on most anything if not violent about it but yeah there is always a but if they whine and cry to the point of saying if something happens they will leave then yes they should why should they you ask because they said they were so you say so people who say they are going to do something and dont are liars so you say liars are the least trustworthy people in the world at least with thieves and murderers you know what you are dealing with eventually but yeah there it is again with a liar you never know what you are dealing with they might even be a thief or a murderer and you could be next victim so yes it will be along long time before i watch anything with certain liars that are performing in it ---- why you ask because they are liars and i do my best not to support liars kinda like the news reporting trump rolling back regulations on big banks when the regulation he wants to stop are the ones on small investors that say you cant sell your real estate holding unless you hire a lawyer to write the contract yes that is NOT wall street they already have lawyers it main street or even rural America that may handle 5 or so properties a year |
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I understand being in someone elses home and leaving but what Im talking about is being in OUR country, belonging to all of us I just find it silly that people who themselves have gripes and complaints about things happening in AMERICA< would then suggest others should leave for having theirs,,,, It doesn't belong to any of us. It is only in our care and we aren't doing a very good job. |
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I think they should be able to speak their mind.... and have the tolerance of letting someone else speak their mind as well..... personally I have had several say what they want but not let me speak..... I don't say they should leave just because they don't think the way I do..... I just mean we all have choices and if you think it is so bad here because you didn't get you way you always have that choice to move..... They have all of these people in a meltdown because Hilary didn't win...I have had some that I didn't want there win but I didn't act a fool or say I wished them and their family dead.... I had this told to me on the day he got sworn in... so I told her regardless he is your president and she said no he will never be my president.... so that was when I said if that was how she felt she had the choice to go somewhere else.... I didn't say I wanted her to or that she had to ...I just told her she had choices, that she wasn't a prisoner here.... A lot of women voted for Hilary just because she was a woman.... to that I say I'm all for having a woman..... just not THAT WOMEN.... I'm hoping that Trump can get this country back to where it was so long ago when it was a great country.... we haven't been a great country to long now..... I want it to be where the government works for us instead of us working for them..... But like always we get promised a lot and delivered very little.... it may the same this time too... but I'm willing to give it a chance.... Do you really believe that King Donald will be the phoenix? He does look a little like that bird. 
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Is there such a difference in not like a politician or not liking political policies? Many people who are very open in their complaints against government and laws and policies are quick to tell those who dont like a presidential choice that they should leave...... People I LOVE all have some things that they do or say that I do not 'like' why do some not understand it is possible to not like some things about or some people in America without it meaning that you are somehow therefore not American enough to be here,, or should leave? does anyone else see how silly this response is to the grievances of another ? Actually the ones I tell to leave are the ones that promised they would if he got elected like that cow Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen. Maybe they should leave together, maybe a little love nest in Venezuela. |
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Personally, I didn't vote for either candidate. I voted constitutional. In my opinion neither one was qualified for the job. Neither one was going to represent me, the citizen. There is a serious problem with a POTUS that believes they are going to do things 'they' want in the name of the whole United States. POTUS is there to enact the will of the people of the country. A representative to the world of you, me and the rest of the country. Congress is there to provide the will of the people so POTUS knows what they want. If the state's representatives are not speaking and promoting the will of the people in their state, POTUS gets bad information. The state representatives get their information from the regional or counties of each state. Those entities get their information from city and town halls in their 'territories'. The mayors/representatives of towns and cities get the will of the people from the communities and so on. When the chain of communication breaks between the people and the POTUS things get screwed up at the top. "The Buck Stops Here" The problem occurs when one of the people we hired to represent our will starts to represent their own will or the will of a select few. It also occurs when 'We The People' do not take a hand in the policies and actions that are being done in our name. To me, anyone that complains about any level of their own government is part of the problem because they are tolerating ineptitude and narcissism from a select few. Not just the POTUS, EVERYONE that is there to represent the will of the people. Ask any representative at any level what the will of the people is and you will get answers that are not in alignment with yours. Either they didn't care what you want or you didn't care enough to tell them. When you go to your town hall meeting and voice your concerns to your representatives it is their job to enact those things that can be done at the town level and send your other concerns to the next level of government. That next level enacts those concerns that are in their control and the rest go to the next level. All the way to the POTUS. If a representative fails to do their job effectively the POTUS gets bombarded with concerns that should not even be a national level concern. What you get are laws and policies that do not represent your will. As far as I am concerned, anyone that complains about any level of the government should look in the mirror first. I would suggest you graduate from the mirror, a most noble endeavor by the way, to a dictionary. Look up what it means to "represent". Also, look up "agent" and you will start to see a picture. To start this ball rolling, to be represented is to declare incompetency to handle one's own affairs. A representative acts as agent for the principle and carries no blame as acts of the agent are acts of the principle. Once you understand these legal maxims, you can fathom what has happened. Their promises to your are to purchase your vote. Their promises to others are for the money to buy your vote. Their promises to themselves are to go with the money as that need is never ending and your vote will be for sell next term. |
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I think the complication comes in with the focus on 'the people' as we see in our electoral college 'the people' is not as simple as it sounds at all some groups want one thing and some groups want another, consensus never happens amongst 'the people' and then, congress can represent their 'people' when it comes to those things in the congress power, but even then , I the citizen, have no way to know which PEOPLE they heard from the most, or what will they will represent If I believe, because there is no way to know, that congress represents the people(those they heard from most?) than I have to believe that presidential vetos are a scurge,,,for giving president the power to go against the will of THE PEOPLE but at the end of the day, I do not know what the will of the people is in most cases, because I am just one amongst millions,,,,, You seem to have no concept of "the people" but you have nailed "citizen" right on the head. |
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In the aftermath of Donald Trump's upset victory over former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in November, plenty of liberals made noises about moving north to Canada to get away from a presidency they can't accept, but they might be finding out that it's not as easy as they thought. Canadian officials have been turning some anti-Trump liberals away from their borders because the leftist Americans fail to contribute to the Canadian economy, according to The Daily Caller. Canada's strict immigration rules don't allow just anyone to come through their borders. When it comes to taking in permanent residents, Canada's government puts a priority on those who will help improve the country because of education, skills or wealth that will contribute to the Canadian economy. Those most welcome are people who "immigrate as a skilled worker," "immigrate by starting a business and creating jobs" or "immigrate by investing in the Canadian economy." Canada's visa website cites a few different types of forms: the general form for workers, the business immigration form for those with management experience, and the family sponsorship form, or parent sponsorship, for parents and guardians. The Daily Caller report contained one amusing story of a New York liberal upset about the November election looking into a permanent move north, only to be cruelly disappointed. "After researching the Canadian immigration system," The Daily Caller pointed out, "the individual posted that he had determined that 'ironically,' as an artist who could not afford to buy property and only rented a loft in Brooklyn, Canada had no desire in taking him in." (Hard to believe any country could turn its back on a self-righteous starving artist from Brooklyn, isn't it?) According to The Economist, Canada values those immigrants most who come to the country with an existing job offer. While the country does admit other immigrants, special priority is given to those who go to the country to work. Of course, Canada has a special immigration policies for refugees facing danger from war or discrimination in their home countries — it has accepted about 40,000 Syrians refugees since 2015 for instance, or about four times as many as the United States took in under former President Obama. But it seems as if simply being against President Donald Trump is not enough. When it first became clear that Trump had won the presidency, heavy use — apparently by U.S. citizens — crashed the Canadian immigration website, according to news reports from the time, and "move to Canada" became one of the top search items on Google. But it turns out Canada has higher standards than the standard Trump-haters probably ever expected. Liberals really need to learn the way the world works. Canada, the 14th colony that rejected these united States so long ago. |
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Come on now,are we that naive to believe, that when some jumped up Celeb or or Politico says something in the heat of the moment,we are actually going take them on their word,these people just like to hear the sound of their own voices, and who cares whether they stay or go,it dose not make a blind bit of difference to us or the way we live,but there we go, OH dear! the world is going to end, Miss fancy knickers, and Mr Mouth, have threatened to leave-run for the Hills.
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Many people who are very open in their complaints against government and laws and policies are quick to tell those who dont like a presidential choice that they should leave...... I am very vocal in my condemnation of many things in America. Many times I have been told, "If you don't like it here, go to Somalia (or some other 3rd world country)". |
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Come on now,are we that naive to believe, that when some jumped up Celeb or or Politico says something in the heat of the moment,we are actually going take them on their word,these people just like to hear the sound of their own voices, and who cares whether they stay or go,it dose not make a blind bit of difference to us or the way we live,but there we go, OH dear! the world is going to end, Miss fancy knickers, and Mr Mouth, have threatened to leave-run for the Hills. When they go on tv talk shows and post on social media saying they are leaving its not a heat of the moment statement They planned it out and thought they were blackmailing people into voting a certain way So basically they interfered in the U S election and should be held accountable for it.....either they need to leave or be held responsible for interfering in election by emotional celebrity blackmail |
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to be represented is to declare incompetency to handle one's own affairs Not all the time. The whole idea of politician is to represent the masses of majority in one place. A consolidation thru representation. Every person in the nation cannot lead the nation. Not because every person is incompetent but because it is impractical. Electing ONE person to represent the majority is the function of the politician. carries no blame as acts of the agent are acts of the principle Agreed. A politician that enacts their own will concerning a nation or a majority is NOT an agent or a representative of that majority. They are an individual in the guise of an agent of the majority. Therefore they must carry the blame for acts not representing the will of the majority. This puts them in violation of the trust and dereliction to the duties of the position. This makes them unqualified to represent the nation majority. |
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Come on now,are we that naive to believe, that when some jumped up Celeb or or Politico says something in the heat of the moment,we are actually going take them on their word,these people just like to hear the sound of their own voices, and who cares whether they stay or go,it dose not make a blind bit of difference to us or the way we live,but there we go, OH dear! the world is going to end, Miss fancy knickers, and Mr Mouth, have threatened to leave-run for the Hills. When they go on tv talk shows and post on social media saying they are leaving its not a heat of the moment statement They planned it out and thought they were blackmailing people into voting a certain way So basically they interfered in the U S election and should be held accountable for it.....either they need to leave or be held responsible for interfering in election by emotional celebrity blackmail how is it blackmail if someone else makes a decision about staying or leaving? |
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Well I'm native....so you should all get the hell off my land....just kidding. ;^)
BUT seriously. As Americans we forget want makes our country so great. Imigrants have made America Great in the first place!!! If your from the Middle East, we welcome you. But if you belive in Shira law, (which if you study is a military, legal and system of government) We don't want your type. In Texas we have banned ANY system of law other than the laws of the Constitution and the constitution of the Republic of Texas...(We are by the way, a Country) America will always be the land were an immigrant can show up and with dedication can make something of himself. The only people who should leave are the ones who wish America failure. We don't want you and we won't make it easy for you to come into my country. It's how we protect our citizens. Peace out. |
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I think most of the people who have threatened to leave the U.S. have absolutely no idea of just how good they have it here... none what so ever.
I have..( for work) lived outside the U.S. and I can tell you that when you look at the U.S from the outside in...you really want to be there.. not where you are. The things we take for granted, clean water, clean food, utilities, housing, roads, clean air, the ability to generate money, ect. ect, ect are not the norm in many parts of the world. I mean if it sucks so bad.. why are all of the illegal aliens trying to stay here? . But maybe I'm wrong.. maybe they do understand this as not one has made good on their comments to leave... not one. talk is cheap... I guess |
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Come on now,are we that naive to believe, that when some jumped up Celeb or or Politico says something in the heat of the moment,we are actually going take them on their word,these people just like to hear the sound of their own voices, and who cares whether they stay or go,it dose not make a blind bit of difference to us or the way we live,but there we go, OH dear! the world is going to end, Miss fancy knickers, and Mr Mouth, have threatened to leave-run for the Hills. When they go on tv talk shows and post on social media saying they are leaving its not a heat of the moment statement They planned it out and thought they were blackmailing people into voting a certain way So basically they interfered in the U S election and should be held accountable for it.....either they need to leave or be held responsible for interfering in election by emotional celebrity blackmail how is it blackmail if someone else makes a decision about staying or leaving? They said they were leaving if the Epson they didn't want to win won That person won They tried to use their not so fame to manipulate others to do a certain thing or else they will no longer be one of them They didn't leave thus meaning it was an empty threat to get others to vote a specific way So yes it is emotional blackmail If they would actually leave then they would be credible but they did not so now they are liars that say whatever they can to try and get others to act a certain way I guess they got put in there place |
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