Ok, here's my observations about M2 so far..

Seems like I get a lot of activity on my photos and profile but I haven't seen any "real" potential. Most email's are almost "form" letters with the same old tiring questions and as I take the time to respond back with as much detail as I can muster, they usually don't write back.

At this point I think I would have better luck sitting at the wine bar and let the alcohol do it's magic.

Any thoughts, observations or rants..?

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Wine bars are for posh people.

I agree

if I get one more

'hi'
'how are you'
'tell me about yourself'

..before going straight into

'do you have facebook/tinder/kik",,,or whatever

I am going to scream! Guys who are interested in/capable of actual reciprocal COMMUNICATION seem hard to come by on social sites.

You could say the same thing about a lot of the women on social sites. Most seem conversationally challenged.

I think quite a few people are using internet dating sites because they ARE socially and conversationally challenged. Looking someone in the eyes and starting a conversation is too difficult for the socially handicapped.

The internet is easy because it's all about numbers. Send out enough form letters and eventually someone will respond.

Yes, I get a lot of "form letters". A few guys have sent me longer letters, several times over a period of a few months. It is word for word exactly the same as the last one. Did they forget they already wrote that to me 4 times?

I agree. I too have had similar experiences. It is disappointing to say the least.

I don't know what goes on at your end, but in the last 8 months of being on this site everyone that has nudged, winked, kissed or made contact with me has been B.S. except the people that participate in the forums. I have yet to experience a decent conversation with someone outside of the forums. Fake fake fake $$$$. Rant for the day..thank you.

HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY

Have you tried other dating sites? If not, perhaps you should give them a try. Good luck :-)

Yup Karen I get the same on my end..
A view (usually after i post to a topic in the forums. )
Then a new blind match....
Maybe a nudge...
And a message saying "hello."
When I respond with "you're too far away or too young or we are searching for different things here."
Then I get the ole do you have blah blah... Or text me at blah blah...

Usually they say good bye when I ask them if they "read my profile."

I have had a couple of real conversations here..

So you're not alone don't let them get you down...

@Rosie yup I am... It is the same everywhere I'm afraid.

Absolutely! They do not pay any attention to who they are sending the emails to. They are only concentrating on the fact that they are sending them and you can forget about them reading your profile. They feel that is such a chore (ie. too much work).
The hilarious thing is at the age of 48 and older you would have thought they would have uncovered the fact that women want intelligent conversation and intellectual exchanges.
I also am really dumbfounded by the fact that 99% of the emails I get begin with Hi pretty, Hi beauty, Hi gorgeous because why? My only logical conclusion is the idea of reading my profile and actually connecting with me based on my stated interests is again too much work. But remember they are serious about finding a serious relationship. (ROFLOL at that statement)
END OF RANT.

I'll admit I'm a window shopper..
I'm just viewing the pool. To my delight, I found these forums.

I tend to agree with the sentiment expressed here. I find that the profiles that have approached me lack conversational skills. I tend to try and help them out but you can only ask some many questions before sounding like you're conducting an interview if the other party isn't making an effort or can't think of anything to say.

Precisely, NotPay4Play
The OP states "here's my observations about M2 so far.. "
so thus my suggestion to try other sites so she can find out for herself.

There was this one time, many years ago, I almost bought something from the scratch and dent table. However, I noticed a rust spot on the bottom and changed my mind.

do you know what an elevator speech is?
say you step on elevator with a potential employer
and you got about five minutes to convince him
to hire you or at least land an interview



I think most intro messages follow the same lines
except they read like a mini-profile
and it is sent out in mass to anyone

in hopes of a response

I am a real person.
I am a man that is actually looking for a real woman.
I read profiles.
I write messages based on the info I gleem from the profile.
I am respectful and show my interest in those I contact.

I am going to flip this around a bit...

How do women like to be contacted?
What observations do you want men to notate?
Which questions are the ones that will make you want to return a conversation?
What subjects do you want to talk about?
Are there keywords that women look for to determine if they can form a response?

Perhaps I am not being shallow enough?
I spend an average of 20 minutes composing a message (sometimes more).
I look at all aspects of the profile and try to make conversation about what they write in their profiles.

I introduce myself, describe similarities, give examples of shared experiences, tell what made me interested in contacting them and request a response. I use basic writing form; introduction, body & salutation.
I put more than enough information in the first message for her to understand that I am interested in having a repertoire. I write open-ended to allow for responses. I concentrate on positives. I keep it personal.

I refuse to believe that every single woman I see is a scammer or fake.
I do understand that a lot of people are on phones. That typing and often even reading long messages are a chore.
However, I also understand that online dating is a chore and does take determination and commitment to get a result that is worth getting.

Yes, I do window shopping. Its what is great about the whole online matching system. Just like in the real world, when I see something in a window that I like, I go in to find out about it. When the seller says its not for sale it makes me wonder why its is in the window in the first place. I have never bought anything in a window from someone that ignores me. Its not like getting something from a vending machine.

As for responding to messages sent to me? I respond with the same level of detail and interest as I am contacted with. If I get a "Hi" I respond with a "Hello".

I have never received a message from anyone that actually has substance and interest...Yet.
I am still here because I have not given up on that possibility...Yet.

I gave up lol

Good rant and absolutely on point!