Topic: Are all guys's just window shoppers?
KarenW8's photo
Fri 03/24/17 09:44 AM
I am on some other "pay" sites but the only difference is that most of the matches are local and you can actually meet face to face. But the same attitude exists as the guys really don't want an intelligent conversation. Lets face it at my age, it may not be possible to find someone who I can share time with.

KarenW8's photo
Fri 03/24/17 09:47 AM
Totally agree, think a lot of guys have a template form letter and just take a quick look at the photos and determine their level of interest based entirely on looks.

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Fri 03/24/17 09:47 AM

I am a real person.
I am a man that is actually looking for a real woman.
I read profiles.
I write messages based on the info I gleem from the profile.
I am respectful and show my interest in those I contact.

I am going to flip this around a bit...

How do women like to be contacted?
What observations do you want men to notate?
Which questions are the ones that will make you want to return a conversation?
What subjects do you want to talk about?
Are there keywords that women look for to determine if they can form a response?

Perhaps I am not being shallow enough?
I spend an average of 20 minutes composing a message (sometimes more).
I look at all aspects of the profile and try to make conversation about what they write in their profiles.

I introduce myself, describe similarities, give examples of shared experiences, tell what made me interested in contacting them and request a response. I use basic writing form; introduction, body & salutation.
I put more than enough information in the first message for her to understand that I am interested in having a repertoire. I write open-ended to allow for responses. I concentrate on positives. I keep it personal.

I refuse to believe that every single woman I see is a scammer or fake.
I do understand that a lot of people are on phones. That typing and often even reading long messages are a chore.
However, I also understand that online dating is a chore and does take determination and commitment to get a result that is worth getting.

Yes, I do window shopping. Its what is great about the whole online matching system. Just like in the real world, when I see something in a window that I like, I go in to find out about it. When the seller says its not for sale it makes me wonder why its is in the window in the first place. I have never bought anything in a window from someone that ignores me. Its not like getting something from a vending machine.

As for responding to messages sent to me? I respond with the same level of detail and interest as I am contacted with. If I get a "Hi" I respond with a "Hello".

I have never received a message from anyone that actually has substance and interest...Yet.
I am still here because I have not given up on that possibility...Yet.




Dude, you're not attempting to build a fusion reactor. Women almost always respond to witty and warm. If you possess the ability to banter then use it. The saying "he must've kissed the blarney stone comes to mind."

Put people at ease. The problem here is that there are not enough "real people" here to work the magic. drinker

travellerfromnl's photo
Fri 03/24/17 09:53 AM
To the O.P., you're profile could be slightly more elaborate. A little more you, perhaps?

KarenW8's photo
Fri 03/24/17 10:12 AM
Interesting comment, so as were are open forum here maybe it's time for the guys to chime in a bit and express what they see as important in establishing a starting point in a conversation, meetup and a relationship.
Maybe, I just don't get it due to I am more used to dealing with women, than single men and I am not presenting myself in the best light that guys might find possibly appealing.

mysticalview21's photo
Fri 03/24/17 10:58 AM

Ok, here's my observations about M2 so far..

Seems like I get a lot of activity on my photos and profile but I haven't seen any "real" potential. Most email's are almost "form" letters with the same old tiring questions and as I take the time to respond back with as much detail as I can muster, they usually don't write back.

At this point I think I would have better luck sitting at the wine bar and let the alcohol do it's magic.

Any thoughts, observations or rants..?


I might agree with you ... but I end my messages run ! lol

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 03/24/17 11:50 AM
Dude, you're not attempting to build a fusion reactor. Women almost always respond to witty and warm. If you possess the ability to banter then use it. The saying "he must've kissed the blarney stone comes to mind."

Put people at ease. The problem here is that there are not enough "real people" here to work the magic. drinker


Thanx drinker

I am witty and warm, endearing and honest. I have a knack for putting people (and animals) at ease. It is all done in person. Face to face.

If I contact someone I have never met and doesn't know me I am a bit all business. The warm-up happens once some familiarity is achieved.

Oh, and btw, a fusion reactor would be simple compared to online dating.
frustrated

no1phD's photo
Fri 03/24/17 11:53 AM
Comes running into the topic room..
Did somebody's mention (((shopping..)))

Omg.. calling shotgun...lol

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 03/24/17 12:18 PM

Comes running into the topic room..
Did somebody's mention (((shopping..)))

Omg.. calling shotgun...lol


Well, put your seatbelt on and I've got $50. You can have $20 but ya gotta buy your own beer. drinker

We have a half a pack of smokes, its 109 miles to Chicago, its night and we're wearing sunglasses. Hit it!

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Fri 03/24/17 12:57 PM

Dude, you're not attempting to build a fusion reactor. Women almost always respond to witty and warm. If you possess the ability to banter then use it. The saying "he must've kissed the blarney stone comes to mind."

Put people at ease. The problem here is that there are not enough "real people" here to work the magic. drinker


Thanx drinker

I am witty and warm, endearing and honest. I have a knack for putting people (and animals) at ease. It is all done in person. Face to face.

If I contact someone I have never met and doesn't know me I am a bit all business. The warm-up happens once some familiarity is achieved.

Oh, and btw, a fusion reactor would be simple compared to online dating.
frustrated



I do not envy you or anyone who chooses to attempt meeting someone via the internet. I understand your reasoning for being business like. It just seems to me that despite the ability to meet virtually anyone from anywhere, this is a waste of time in 99% of all cases.

I'm not saying it is any easier in real life, although the opportunity for wit and charm is readily available, but in purely pragmatic terms you waste a lot less time in the real world.


Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 03/24/17 01:26 PM
I do not envy you or anyone who chooses to attempt meeting someone via the internet. I understand your reasoning for being business like. It just seems to me that despite the ability to meet virtually anyone from anywhere, this is a waste of time in 99% of all cases.

I'm not saying it is any easier in real life, although the opportunity for wit and charm is readily available, but in purely pragmatic terms you waste a lot less time in the real world.


I whole-heartedly agree! :thumbsup:

Until the last 6 years everyone I have met in a romantic way has been introduced to me in person. I went 25 years without looking for a new romantic partner because I thought I was happily married. Never went looking, during my marriage, ever.

Being disabled has taken me out of the workforce everyday. By being out of the workforce daily, I am also not using frequent stops in the public like quick marts and gas stations. My health kept me out of social networks for a few years till I got a handle on it. I had moved to a different location in the country for finacial and emotional stability. (Living near the X was a bad idea)

In the last 6 years I have met and courted a total of 4 women. All of which I met online thru dating sites. Mostly tho, I have been completely alone. I'm not complaining, it is pretty nice. I just find it difficult to insert myself into the unknown social groups.

I've become the kind of person that can be very friendly once someone introduces themselves to me. When working I was more outgoing. I initiated many of my friendships but found that of those I had, none remain. Perhaps I was a poor judge of friendships?

At least online, when I do find someone I am interested in, I can get to know their nature a bit better before committing to the real life encounter. The problem is my gullibility and their tendancy to lie. Thats why there are 4 past and no current.

But its the way of things and I accept it. I keep trying and someday someone special will be there, I feel it.

Jarsno's photo
Fri 03/24/17 07:12 PM

Totally agree, think a lot of guys have a template form letter and just take a quick look at the photos and determine their level of interest based entirely on looks.




Not all are like that drinker

Twintidbits24's photo
Sat 03/25/17 03:03 AM



I gave up lol drinker


Ha Ha Ha Ha....Next time you do that, send me a message on here and I'll gladly pick it up and don't forget the monitor too...lolzzzwinking

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Sat 03/25/17 03:12 AM

Interesting comment, so as were are open forum here maybe it's time for the guys to chime in a bit and express what they see as important in establishing a starting point in a conversation, meetup and a relationship.
Maybe, I just don't get it due to I am more used to dealing with women, than single men and I am not presenting myself in the best light that guys might find possibly appealing.

With respect have a read of your comments on this thread alone.
Nothing but negative vibes.
People mostly like happy.
It may be worth trying to see the positive in people rather than the negative.
These thing tend to feed and snowball off each other.
Good luck.

Twintidbits24's photo
Sat 03/25/17 03:14 AM

Dude, you're not attempting to build a fusion reactor. Women almost always respond to witty and warm. If you possess the ability to banter then use it. The saying "he must've kissed the blarney stone comes to mind."

Put people at ease. The problem here is that there are not enough "real people" here to work the magic. drinker



Agree on that...You hit the mark...sometimes you just have to be witty to start the conversation running...it doesn't have to be a long winding road...just a little "tickle" might do the trick...winking

And yes, you just have to weed out the real from fakes and they ain't enough to work the magic out.. ha ha ha

Twintidbits24's photo
Sat 03/25/17 03:18 AM

Dude, you're not attempting to build a fusion reactor. Women almost always respond to witty and warm. If you possess the ability to banter then use it. The saying "he must've kissed the blarney stone comes to mind."

Put people at ease. The problem here is that there are not enough "real people" here to work the magic. drinker


Thanx drinker

I am witty and warm, endearing and honest. I have a knack for putting people (and animals) at ease. It is all done in person. Face to face.

If I contact someone I have never met and doesn't know me I am a bit all business. The warm-up happens once some familiarity is achieved.

Oh, and btw, a fusion reactor would be simple compared to online dating.
frustrated


Ha ha ha ha....Have you done one so far??? Lolzzzz... rofl

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sat 03/25/17 06:54 AM


Dude, you're not attempting to build a fusion reactor. Women almost always respond to witty and warm. If you possess the ability to banter then use it. The saying "he must've kissed the blarney stone comes to mind."

Put people at ease. The problem here is that there are not enough "real people" here to work the magic. drinker


Thanx drinker

I am witty and warm, endearing and honest. I have a knack for putting people (and animals) at ease. It is all done in person. Face to face.

If I contact someone I have never met and doesn't know me I am a bit all business. The warm-up happens once some familiarity is achieved.

Oh, and btw, a fusion reactor would be simple compared to online dating.
frustrated


Ha ha ha ha....Have you done one so far??? Lolzzzz... rofl


Why would you care? It will not be you, I am sure.
noway

no photo
Sat 03/25/17 06:59 AM

Ok, here's my observations about M2 so far..

Seems like I get a lot of activity on my photos and profile but I haven't seen any "real" potential. Most email's are almost "form" letters with the same old tiring questions and as I take the time to respond back with as much detail as I can muster, they usually don't write back.

At this point I think I would have better luck sitting at the wine bar and let the alcohol do it's magic.

Any thoughts, observations or rants..?

Are all guys's just window shoppers

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Well, I don't know about the other guys but I am. I have a mannequin fetish.. I have them all over the house.. about a dozen or so. So yes, I like window shopping... see the new " gals"

They don't bust your balls about not throwing the garbage out.. they never hog the T.V. remote and you just have to dust them once in awhile.

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Sat 03/25/17 07:05 AM



Dude, you're not attempting to build a fusion reactor. Women almost always respond to witty and warm. If you possess the ability to banter then use it. The saying "he must've kissed the blarney stone comes to mind."

Put people at ease. The problem here is that there are not enough "real people" here to work the magic. drinker


Thanx drinker

I am witty and warm, endearing and honest. I have a knack for putting people (and animals) at ease. It is all done in person. Face to face.

If I contact someone I have never met and doesn't know me I am a bit all business. The warm-up happens once some familiarity is achieved.

Oh, and btw, a fusion reactor would be simple compared to online dating.
frustrated


Ha ha ha ha....Have you done one so far??? Lolzzzz... rofl


Why would you care? It will not be you, I am sure.
noway



I think she meant building a fusion reactor...

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sat 03/25/17 07:53 AM
I think she meant building a fusion reactor...

Yeah, I can be dense sometimes, oh well.

I have built a few fusion reactors. I keep them safely tucked away behind personel, vehicle and air defense turrents.