Topic: REAL DEBATE:Whats behind the moral deteriation of TV; and wh
Michelle1538's photo
Thu 01/11/18 08:29 PM
Edited by Michelle1538 on Thu 01/11/18 08:59 PM
Something that will really get your nugget working.
This debate creates more questions than answers.

There is no doubt TV contains more violence, explicit sex scenes, offensive language and material than it did 10 years ago. Even 1-2 years reveals a noticeable decline (Let alone 20/30 years ago).

It is also a FACT that exposure to violence on TV has a significant negative affect on peoples brains and behaviour, AND we watch far more TV than we all should. It actually changes your brain chemistry.

BIG issue coz the next generation is a bit of a concern if you ask me...

So WHY is the direction of TV content in a general decline?

Better yet, if it has many many PROVEN harmful effects on the brain, why is this not a more common topic?

Is this general decline simply an illustration of human natures tendancy to stray towards the darker subjects? The evolution of TV content relative to general public demand?

OR

Is it strategic? Social engineering. Discreetly and incrementally imposed.

Is there an elite group strategically (gradually!) conditioning people to negative material through TV (violence, language, sex scenes) so it becomes less and less shocking and more socially acceptable.

Why? To whose benefit?

To what extent is this content affecting society and our brains? (Without even mentioning subliminal messages).

Is this conditioning the reason in crisis people are now more likely to pull out their phones to film it, than to help.

I believe that majority of evidence supports engineering. Especially when you consider the News content; the restraint of knowledge, and ESPECIALLY when an unimportant story gets consistent coverage and is blown out of proportion, taking the limelight away from the real news.

COMMENTS PLEASE!

Michelle1538's photo
Thu 01/11/18 09:03 PM
Don't know why on earth I put this on a dating website. Does anybody else out there think about this kinda stuff or is it just me?

If you think its valid point, share it, why not?

Tom4Uhere's photo
Thu 01/11/18 11:32 PM
Its 1:30am here and I am headed for bed.
Left a comment so it will show up on "MyTopics" and I can find it when I get up.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 01/12/18 08:44 AM
So WHY is the direction of TV content in a general decline?

Decline according to whom?
"more violence, explicit sex scenes, offensive language and material" increases viewers which increases benefits to the people involved in the business. Not really in decline if they are making money on their business plan.

You see what you see on TV because that content cause people to tune in. It allows the station to sell more airtime to a larger audience.
If people tuned in to a solid blue screen, you would see more channels broadcasting a solid blue screen.

You are asking if TV content drives morality or if morality drives TV content.

Greed drives TV content.
Morality changes as society changes.
Toleration levels change and TV exploits that change to make money.
Remove all the TV sets from your home for at least a year. Stop watching it when you see one. Completely remove TV from your life.
Chances are, most people can't do that.
They will make up all kinds of excuses why they watch TV everyday.
Some will get irate at the notion of losing TV for any period of time.

After a year without TV of any kind, start watching it again.
You will see how it influences and even manipulates people.
You will see how shows have the same underlying principles, cookie cutter plots and standardized outcomes.
You will notice how the commercials repeat and distort decision making.
You will notice how the NEWS is mostly opinion and reinforces itself as long as there is viewers tuned in. How some person you have never met, has authority that you should acknowledge and support. Essentially, telling you which morals are the ones you should have.
Television is an addiction that people don't acknowledge.
It causes inner turmoil and moral confusion. It is self-driven insanity that gets reinforced by ratings initiated by greed.
Remove its influence and clarity, presence of mind, decision making and inner contentment returns.

What you see on TV is a direct reflection of what people tune into. They will provide whatever sells airtime.
It is a self-supporting addiction.

Shut that damn thing off.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/12/18 09:13 AM

So WHY is the direction of TV content in a general decline?

Decline according to whom?
"more violence, explicit sex scenes, offensive language and material" increases viewers which increases benefits to the people involved in the business. Not really in decline if they are making money on their business plan.

You see what you see on TV because that content cause people to tune in. It allows the station to sell more airtime to a larger audience.
If people tuned in to a solid blue screen, you would see more channels broadcasting a solid blue screen.

You are asking if TV content drives morality or if morality drives TV content.

Greed drives TV content.
Morality changes as society changes.
Toleration levels change and TV exploits that change to make money.
Remove all the TV sets from your home for at least a year. Stop watching it when you see one. Completely remove TV from your life.
Chances are, most people can't do that.
They will make up all kinds of excuses why they watch TV everyday.
Some will get irate at the notion of losing TV for any period of time.

After a year without TV of any kind, start watching it again.
You will see how it influences and even manipulates people.
You will see how shows have the same underlying principles, cookie cutter plots and standardized outcomes.
You will notice how the commercials repeat and distort decision making.
You will notice how the NEWS is mostly opinion and reinforces itself as long as there is viewers tuned in. How some person you have never met, has authority that you should acknowledge and support. Essentially, telling you which morals are the ones you should have.
Television is an addiction that people don't acknowledge.
It causes inner turmoil and moral confusion. It is self-driven insanity that gets reinforced by ratings initiated by greed.
Remove its influence and clarity, presence of mind, decision making and inner contentment returns.

What you see on TV is a direct reflection of what people tune into. They will provide whatever sells airtime.
It is a self-supporting addiction.

Shut that damn thing off.

no photo
Fri 01/12/18 09:14 AM
yep you nailed it tom. it's all about making money. case in point look at the not so new now shift to "reality shows" they were substantially cheaper to produce and supplanted better quality fiction, because they drew the same audience count and saved on production costs.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/12/18 09:17 AM

So WHY is the direction of TV content in a general decline?

Decline according to whom?
"more violence, explicit sex scenes, offensive language and material" increases viewers which increases benefits to the people involved in the business. Not really in decline if they are making money on their business plan.

You see what you see on TV because that content cause people to tune in. It allows the station to sell more airtime to a larger audience.
If people tuned in to a solid blue screen, you would see more channels broadcasting a solid blue screen.

You are asking if TV content drives morality or if morality drives TV content.

Greed drives TV content.
Morality changes as society changes.
Toleration levels change and TV exploits that change to make money.
Remove all the TV sets from your home for at least a year. Stop watching it when you see one. Completely remove TV from your life.
Chances are, most people can't do that.
They will make up all kinds of excuses why they watch TV everyday.
Some will get irate at the notion of losing TV for any period of time.

After a year without TV of any kind, start watching it again.
You will see how it influences and even manipulates people.
You will see how shows have the same underlying principles, cookie cutter plots and standardized outcomes.
You will notice how the commercials repeat and distort decision making.
You will notice how the NEWS is mostly opinion and reinforces itself as long as there is viewers tuned in. How some person you have never met, has authority that you should acknowledge and support. Essentially, telling you which morals are the ones you should have.
Television is an addiction that people don't acknowledge.
It causes inner turmoil and moral confusion. It is self-driven insanity that gets reinforced by ratings initiated by greed.
Remove its influence and clarity, presence of mind, decision making and inner contentment returns.

What you see on TV is a direct reflection of what people tune into. They will provide whatever sells airtime.
It is a self-supporting addiction.

Shut that damn thing off.
exactly...the public does this to themselves, not the networks... networks care about money, advertising dollars, and advertisers only pay for spots for shows that people are watching... Like Tom said, just shut the damn thing off...

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/12/18 11:14 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 01/12/18 11:15 AM

Something that will really get your nugget working.
This debate creates more questions than answers.

There is no doubt TV contains more violence, explicit sex scenes, offensive language and material than it did 10 years ago. Even 1-2 years reveals a noticeable decline (Let alone 20/30 years ago).

It is also a FACT that exposure to violence on TV has a significant negative affect on peoples brains and behaviour, AND we watch far more TV than we all should. It actually changes your brain chemistry.

BIG issue coz the next generation is a bit of a concern if you ask me...

So WHY is the direction of TV content in a general decline?

Better yet, if it has many many PROVEN harmful effects on the brain, why is this not a more common topic?

Is this general decline simply an illustration of human natures tendancy to stray towards the darker subjects? The evolution of TV content relative to general public demand?

OR

Is it strategic? Social engineering. Discreetly and incrementally imposed.

Is there an elite group strategically (gradually!) conditioning people to negative material through TV (violence, language, sex scenes) so it becomes less and less shocking and more socially acceptable.

Why? To whose benefit?

To what extent is this content affecting society and our brains? (Without even mentioning subliminal messages).

Is this conditioning the reason in crisis people are now more likely to pull out their phones to film it, than to help.

I believe that majority of evidence supports engineering. Especially when you consider the News content; the restraint of knowledge, and ESPECIALLY when an unimportant story gets consistent coverage and is blown out of proportion, taking the limelight away from the real news.

COMMENTS PLEASE!



Those are deep questions. I believe the bottom line is making money, BUT I also believe there is more than one way to make money and that as much as media reflects culture, it can also lead it.

So Id say love of money, over love of mankind, has fueled the trend of declining moral standards in entertainment. That and the increased promotion of egocentric, "I got mine, get yours' lifestyles.

In general, there is less of a sense that we have responsibility to each other and only responsibility for ourselves. That self absorbed view of life leads to a cultural standard where there is no 'right or wrong' that should be promoted or encouraged, whats 'right' is what makes something easier or makes us more money, and whats 'wrong' is anything that prevents things from being easier or people from making more money

and our tendency to have morbid curiosity makes the more controversial or taboo subject matters appeal to us in a way that makes money for those who produce the entertainment.


Stu's photo
Fri 01/12/18 11:30 AM

Don't know why on earth I put this on a dating website. Does anybody else out there think about this kinda stuff or is it just me?

If you think its valid point, share it, why not?


Totally valid topic, this IS a forum for discussing topics of interest.

I for one don't care much for tv, unless its of a historical topic or something of a non violent nature or non "reality" shows which I find completely pointless to watch.

Remember the lyric, "the bubble headed bleach blonde comes on at 5, she can tell you about the plane crash with a gleam in her eye..". That's become the norm of news programs, which I care not to watch, all it shows it the steady decline of humans as civilized people.

There are just too many variables when it comes to TV programming to discuss, but I think in the end, its all about the bottom dollar they can make from producing BS to further destroy the minds of humans.

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/12/18 11:34 AM
quoting Sutball63
but I think in the end, its all about the bottom dollar they can make from producing BS to further destroy the minds of humans.

I think that is straight to the point of it drinker

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/12/18 06:02 PM

quoting Sutball63
but I think in the end, its all about the bottom dollar they can make from producing BS to further destroy the minds of humans.

I think that is straight to the point of it drinker
the networks aren't forcing anyone to watch anything...the humans are doing that to themselves...

no photo
Fri 01/12/18 07:07 PM
There is no doubt TV contains more violence, explicit sex scenes, offensive language and material than it did 10 years ago.

10 years ago (approx) is when Facebook came out, as well as the iPhone.

People are attached to screens, constantly anymore.

Constant mental stimulation and titillation.

Little different than crack heads.

You get high, you need ever increasing doses in order to attempt to reach the same high.

Not to mention you have lots of competition.
Why go after physical stimulation (color, blood, fear response, sex stimulation) when you can go after social stimulation (pseudo relationships via facebook, dating site forums, social media).

Plus you have to compete with the news. Fear fear fear. Something under your kitchen cabinet could kill you! Tune in at 11.
Today in Sarajevo, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, nuclear war with Russia, China is funding army expansion with U.S. debt interest payments, North Korea launching nuclear ICBM's.

WHY is the direction of TV content in a general decline?

Because it earns enough money to justify that direction.

if it has many many PROVEN harmful effects on the brain, why is this not a more common topic?

I'm not sure it has been "PROVEN" so much as it has shown to have an effect, and opined on as to what that effect means.
Or correlation but not necessarily causation.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-tv-rot-your-brain/

Is this general decline simply an illustration of human natures tendancy to stray towards the darker subjects?

People live more complex lives than just t.v. and movies.
What are they doing with the rest of their day?
I mean if they spend an hour of their day watching a t.v. show that strays "towards the darker subjects" after spending the previous 9 hours straying towards lighter subjects, is it really "human natures tendancy to stray towards the darker subjects?"

Seems it would be more accurate to say something like it's human nature to explore. Including darker subjects.

For all I know people are exploring less darker subjects with the majority of their time, so the time spent actually exploring darker subjects they need them to be extremely dark in order to make up for the extra time spent exploring lighter subjects.

Is it strategic? Social engineering. Discreetly and incrementally imposed.

IMO no. There is too much variety and available alternatives.
I can turn off the t.v. any time, I can watch nothing but 1950's t.v. shows if I want, I can not go to the movies, I can read any number of books, or write a book, or sit and talk with friends, even online.

Probably off topic, but I'd say public schools and universities would be a better example of strategic social engineering.

To what extent is this content affecting society and our brains?

I do think that MSM in general has been pandering to the fear response simply because it's more profitable.
When you're scared you tend to look for more information, and focus on things more.
"That grass is moving...is it a lion? What is that? Is it going to eat me? What's going on there? I'm coming back tomorrow to check and see if there was a lion there, check for spoor, a carcass, or smell or something, I need assurance and reassurance. I need to know I'm right, I need to know I'm not missing out on something important that's going to harm me. I don't want to be the last to know a lion is chasing me/us."

When there's a pleasure response you try to recreate it more conveniently. "Oh, look at that rainbow!" Then go out and buy a rainbow poster or a lava lamp, or find a place that shows a rainbow everyday, or sit at home and use your memory, you don't go back to the same spot every day and wait for a rainbow to appear.
T.V. shows and movies don't really operate to trigger a pleasure response so much as a social response. They try to get you to identify with the people on the screen, so you'll keep coming back to maintain yourself as part of the group.

Is this conditioning the reason in crisis people are now more likely to pull out their phones to film it, than to help.

The majority of people when faced with a crisis don't really do anything. They don't stop and help. They look for social cues for what they should do, what's expected.
It's usually just a couple of people that will stop and help. If people in general see one person helping, they will then come up and offer assistance too.
They (people in general) need someone else to assume responsibility.
People hate responsibility (and its cousin accountability).
Taking out a phone and filming is a means of them telling themselves they are doing something without having to actually do anything or take responsibility.
i.e. bystander effect.

It's not a new phenomenon.



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Wed 01/17/18 11:00 PM
you see most people love to see things which attract their souls and sexy attract mind faster...like most of tvs they know to get someone knock you got to previl more thats why they fight to get more progremmes

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Wed 01/17/18 11:23 PM

Don't know why on earth I put this on a dating website. Does anybody else out there think about this kinda stuff or is it just me?

If you think its valid point, share it, why not?


Michelle, I'm on Gab.ai. RobXbox73. Its a great place for unfettered and uncensored freedom of expression. Give it a try and follow my posts for paranormal/conservative/humor. Good luck!

Yes, the Deep state is destroying all the standing free countries to bring in Mohamadan incorperation and destruction of Christian governments...Germany? France? England? Sweden?? Yup....

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Thu 01/18/18 02:58 AM
People become desensitized and thus accept things as normal as content "descends". We're headed in a downward spiral that has no bottom.