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Topic: transpeople- how ridiculous can it get?
mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/16/18 07:12 AM
I've been saying this over and over again, but it seems like every day new evidence surfaces: The trans movement pretends to have the best interests of young people at heart, but the sad reality is that their movement is doing incalculable damage to thousands of kids. Beyond the psychological confusion, the mastectomies, the castrations, the hormone therapy, the halting or delaying of puberty, and the growing (although ignored) trend of "reverse transitions," there is also the simple fact that the trans movement is fundamentally claiming that they can transform reality. Thus you have a sudden and bizarre uptick in "pregnant men," which, as the kids like to say, isn't a thing.

But this recent story from the Daily Wire may just take the cake, revealing how dangerous and irresponsible trans activists can be-as well as showing that the progressive cheerleaders are perfectly willing to sacrifice the safety of children in pursuit of this new ideology:

The Left is praising the use of domperidone on a male-to-female transgender individual who was given the U.S.-banned drug to induce lactation and exclusively breastfeed his child.

"It's a dream come true," boasts Bustle's Romper. "Thanks to the work on induced lactation in Transgender women by Dr. Tamar Reisman and nurse practitioner and program manager Zil Goldstein at the Mt. Sinai Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery, a Transgender mother was not only able to breastfeed her child, but to be the baby's exclusive food source for its first six weeks of life," reports Romper.

The "Results" of the case report read as follows: "A 30-year-old transgender woman who had been receiving feminizing hormone therapy for the past 6 years presented to our clinic with the goal of being able to breastfeed her adopted infant. After implementing a regimen of domperidone, estradiol, progesterone, and breast pumping, she was able to achieve sufficient breast milk volume to be the sole source of nourishment for her child for 6 weeks. This case illustrates that, in some circumstances, modest but functional lactation can be induced in transgender women."

The transgender individual was able to exclusively breastfeed the child for the first six weeks and supplemented breast milk with formula until the baby was six months old. But while we're pushing the ethical envelope under the banner of transgender "rights," are researchers considering the health and wellbeing of the child in question, who is now potentially at risk of the drug's serious and sometimes fatal side effects?

Apparently not.

"While Reisman and Goldstein's patient took her dose [of domperidone] orally, the FDA is reportedly still worried about the possible effects of domperidone on infants, since the drug is passed through breast milk," notes Romper.

Domperidone has been banned in the U.S. by the FDA since 2004. "The serious risks associated with domperidone include cardiac arrhythmias, cardiac arrest, and sudden death. These risks are related to the blood level of domperidone, and higher levels in the blood are associated with higher risks of these events. Concurrent use of certain commonly used drugs, such as erythromycin, could raise blood levels of domperidone and further increase the risk of serious adverse cardiac outcomes," says FDA.gov.

So, a man got a sex change, and then breast-fed his adopted child, disregarding the potential risk to that child's life. That, by any definition, is child abuse.

http://www.sott.net/article/377517-Trans-man-risks-adopted-babys-health-and-life-by-attempting-to-breast-feed

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/16/18 07:16 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 02/16/18 07:24 AM
just wait ... Gods design is being completely rebelled against and tossed out. They dont really even need eggs or sperm to produce offspring anymore, and there is talk in the religion and science fields of offspring between AI and humans ... sci fi is becoming reality ... and the push for technological and scientific 'advancement' being constantly promoted makes it unlikely anyone will be able to do anything about it ...


you think the push to redefine 'man' or 'woman' is ridiculous, wait until we are redefining what it is to be 'human'

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/health/embryo-skin-cell-ivg/index.html

mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/16/18 07:32 AM

just wait ... Gods design is being completely rebelled against and tossed out. They dont really even need eggs or sperm to produce offspring anymore, and there is talk in the religion and science fields of offspring between AI and humans ... sci fi is becoming reality ... and the push for technological and scientific 'advancement' being constantly promoted makes it unlikely anyone will be able to do anything about it ...


you think the push to redefine 'man' or 'woman' is ridiculous, wait until we are redefining what it is to be 'human'

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/09/health/embryo-skin-cell-ivg/index.html
yea, I'm glad I have more years behind me than in front of me...this kind of silliness drives me nuts...

soufiehere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:19 AM
I haven't walked a mile in their shoes-perhaps
YOU have?-but they are entitled to all the rights
everyone else has.

no photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:21 AM
flowerforyou

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:25 AM
I admit that I have no room in my life for trans-anything driven by social acceptance. I believe we should be who we actually are.
The whole concept strikes me as people having identity crisis.

That being said, I enjoy science fiction and fantasy as much as any avid fan.

Could there one day be a genetic change in the human genome as a direct result of this tampering?
Right now, there is no danger because the "trans-effect" has not reached genetic manipulation. I'm wondering just how far trans-modification will go?

Lemmesplain...

At some point someone is going to request gene modification for themselves or their offspring.
Right now there are laws against tampering with human genomes.
Will the social acceptance of 'trans' relax the laws on genetic modification?

If that happens, it could result in Human 2.1, Human 2.2, Human 2.3 and so on. Where, for one example, men are born with the ability to carry eggs and become pregnant. Their offspring then carry the mutation and the mutation is initiated into the gene pool.

What happens to the baseline human?

The same type of scenario is explored in many science fiction works. Fishmen, birdmen, humans that survive in space without working legs. Think Frank Herbert's Dune.
Think Orion's Arm. http://www.orionsarm.com/

At what point does 'trans' threaten the future of the human species?

Genetic mutations occur naturally as we adjust to environmental changes over generations. 'Trans' mutations are not natural changes, they are directed.
Why?
Because people are having an identity crisis.
An identity crisis brought on by the need to feel special or different. A way to 'stand out' from the norm.
Me, Me, Me, look at Me, I'm different, I'm special.
Personally, pal, I think you have serious mental issues and extremely low self-esteem.

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:28 AM

I admit that I have no room in my life for trans-anything driven by social acceptance. I believe we should be who we actually are.
The whole concept strikes me as people having identity crisis.

That being said, I enjoy science fiction and fantasy as much as any avid fan.

Could there one day be a genetic change in the human genome as a direct result of this tampering?
Right now, there is no danger because the "trans-effect" has not reached genetic manipulation. I'm wondering just how far trans-modification will go?

Lemmesplain...

At some point someone is going to request gene modification for themselves or their offspring.
Right now there are laws against tampering with human genomes.
Will the social acceptance of 'trans' relax the laws on genetic modification?

If that happens, it could result in Human 2.1, Human 2.2, Human 2.3 and so on. Where, for one example, men are born with the ability to carry eggs and become pregnant. Their offspring then carry the mutation and the mutation is initiated into the gene pool.

What happens to the baseline human?

The same type of scenario is explored in many science fiction works. Fishmen, birdmen, humans that survive in space without working legs. Think Frank Herbert's Dune.
Think Orion's Arm. http://www.orionsarm.com/

At what point does 'trans' threaten the future of the human species?

Genetic mutations occur naturally as we adjust to environmental changes over generations. 'Trans' mutations are not natural changes, they are directed.
Why?
Because people are having an identity crisis.
An identity crisis brought on by the need to feel special or different. A way to 'stand out' from the norm.
Me, Me, Me, look at Me, I'm different, I'm special.
Personally, pal, I think you have serious mental issues and extremely low self-esteem.



I totally agree with what you said. When we start playing God with creating and altering the nature of the male and female human, we open a pandoras box that will forever dilute what it even means to be a human being.

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:28 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 02/16/18 09:34 AM

I admit that I have no room in my life for trans-anything driven by social acceptance. I believe we should be who we actually are.
The whole concept strikes me as people having identity crisis.

That being said, I enjoy science fiction and fantasy as much as any avid fan.

Could there one day be a genetic change in the human genome as a direct result of this tampering?
Right now, there is no danger because the "trans-effect" has not reached genetic manipulation. I'm wondering just how far trans-modification will go?

Lemmesplain...

At some point someone is going to request gene modification for themselves or their offspring.
Right now there are laws against tampering with human genomes.
Will the social acceptance of 'trans' relax the laws on genetic modification?

If that happens, it could result in Human 2.1, Human 2.2, Human 2.3 and so on. Where, for one example, men are born with the ability to carry eggs and become pregnant. Their offspring then carry the mutation and the mutation is initiated into the gene pool.

What happens to the baseline human?

The same type of scenario is explored in many science fiction works. Fishmen, birdmen, humans that survive in space without working legs. Think Frank Herbert's Dune.
Think Orion's Arm. http://www.orionsarm.com/

At what point does 'trans' threaten the future of the human species?

Genetic mutations occur naturally as we adjust to environmental changes over generations. 'Trans' mutations are not natural changes, they are directed.
Why?
Because people are having an identity crisis.
An identity crisis brought on by the need to feel special or different. A way to 'stand out' from the norm.
Me, Me, Me, look at Me, I'm different, I'm special.
Personally, pal, I think you have serious mental issues and extremely low self-esteem.



I totally agree with what you said. When we start playing God with creating and altering the nature of the anatomy of the male and female human, we open a pandoras box that will forever dilute what it even means to be a human being.

the push to call some male humans she and her, and some female humans he and him were well intentioned, I believe, but would be better if these humans were pushed to accept their difference without mandating everyone else live in a fantasy. Feeling like a 'female' is just being femininee,, right? And felling like a 'male' is just being masculine.

So why was/is there such a push to upend the whole language, instead of promoting males to accept that their 'feminine' persona doesnt change their being male, he and him and promoting females to accept that their 'masculine' persona doesnt change their being female, she and her

I believe the answer is to slowly gain acceptance by the populace of the elimination of any type of 'human' or anatomical distinctions, so we go quietly into the night of genetically modified humans and human hybrids.

no photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:43 AM


Personally my attitude is aimed more towards "Live and let Live" ..after all we are a free nation and it's their life ..as long as it doesn't harm anyone ..if it makes them happy and harms no one who am I to tell them how they should live their lives.

They will always be human no matter how they may alter their bodies ..you can never take that away from them..My only debate with it is I don't think that if they are able to join the military that we should have to pay for it.. because it's a matter of choice not because they were injured..


Live and let Live... smile2

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:45 AM
That is the well intention I spoke of, but with live and let live what happens is trends are set, and trends become cultures, and cultures become mandates, and it never really just ends at 'letting' others do what they want, it eventually crosses into 'making' people do what others have made popular and profitable ...

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:52 AM


I admit that I have no room in my life for trans-anything driven by social acceptance. I believe we should be who we actually are.
The whole concept strikes me as people having identity crisis.

That being said, I enjoy science fiction and fantasy as much as any avid fan.

Could there one day be a genetic change in the human genome as a direct result of this tampering?
Right now, there is no danger because the "trans-effect" has not reached genetic manipulation. I'm wondering just how far trans-modification will go?

Lemmesplain...

At some point someone is going to request gene modification for themselves or their offspring.
Right now there are laws against tampering with human genomes.
Will the social acceptance of 'trans' relax the laws on genetic modification?

If that happens, it could result in Human 2.1, Human 2.2, Human 2.3 and so on. Where, for one example, men are born with the ability to carry eggs and become pregnant. Their offspring then carry the mutation and the mutation is initiated into the gene pool.

What happens to the baseline human?

The same type of scenario is explored in many science fiction works. Fishmen, birdmen, humans that survive in space without working legs. Think Frank Herbert's Dune.
Think Orion's Arm. http://www.orionsarm.com/

At what point does 'trans' threaten the future of the human species?

Genetic mutations occur naturally as we adjust to environmental changes over generations. 'Trans' mutations are not natural changes, they are directed.
Why?
Because people are having an identity crisis.
An identity crisis brought on by the need to feel special or different. A way to 'stand out' from the norm.
Me, Me, Me, look at Me, I'm different, I'm special.
Personally, pal, I think you have serious mental issues and extremely low self-esteem.



I totally agree with what you said. When we start playing God with creating and altering the nature of the male and female human, we open a pandoras box that will forever dilute what it even means to be a human being.

Right now, 'trans' is not a species threat.

Some self-expression is beneficial to self-esteem.
We all draw the line someplace.

For the most part, the 'trans' trend does not affect me.
I just 'steer clear' of them when I notice them.

But, social 'trends' sometimes become social 'norms' over time.
When that happens, what is the next step of the confused few that need to stand out? I can see this spiraling into societal confusion.

Its sad to think of all these people with such low self-esteem they need to cope by modifying themselves to stand out from the crowd.

Cosplay is not meant to be a lifestyle, its meant to be entertainment. Something you do as a distraction or expression of art. Technically, 'trans' is a form of twisted cosplay.
Its like wearing a Halloween mask all the time. Under the mask, you're still human but the mask becomes your idea of who you are.
A self-sustaining identity crisis.

I have no problem being me. I like me.
The person that dons 'The Mask' to become something that they arn't, obviously doesn't like something about themselves. They embrace the delusions and try to make them reality.

When people embrace delusion as reality we call them psychotic.
Yet, Society is embracing mental illness as a normal function instead of seeing it as a disease like in the past.

What does this say about our society?
And then we wonder why there are school shootings and nightclub bombings. We wonder why so much of our society doesn't make sense.
Society is suffering from mental illness.

msharmony's photo
Fri 02/16/18 09:55 AM
Oh, I could go on about mental illness, but I think you picked the catalyst when you mentioned self esteem, and I would add lack of coping tools ...

Between the two, our society appears to be becoming more and more mentally and emotionally ill.

no photo
Fri 02/16/18 10:08 AM


I personally have not come to the conclusion that it's a mental or emotional illness but more of the X and Y chromosomes..now in that aspect yes I feel it would effect ones emotions but to conclude that it's an illness and not something in the DNA strand ..I don't feel it's an illness it's just the way it is..

If we tread on the rights of one some day someone might tread on our rights..to be who we are there's where I see the dangers.

You sure have a lot of what ifs that I don't see coming to fruition.I think acceptance is the key whether we agree or not ..they have the right to live the way that makes them happy as long as it harms noone..don't we all have that right..

I feel it's a little judgemental on the part of some that might be the illness..Peace and Love people..smile2

mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/16/18 10:09 AM

I haven't walked a mile in their shoes-perhaps
YOU have?-but they are entitled to all the rights
everyone else has.
maybe... But where does my rights start to infringe on your rights? Where is that line? Do I not have the right to not like this crap? Liberals tell me I have to accept whatever they throw out there... I don't want my kids seeing this crap, and I don't wanna see it either... are those not my rights?

Workin4it's photo
Fri 02/16/18 10:12 AM
To me this is what I call a mongrolization of humans. I hope the good lord comes back before that can happen. But I think that will never happen, humans will never out smart nature. Nature is a powerful force.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 02/16/18 10:14 AM

To me this is what I call a mongrolization of humans. I hope the good lord comes back before that can happen. But I think that will never happen, humans will never out smart nature. Nature is a powerful force.
to me, nature is the god...

Toodygirl5's photo
Fri 02/16/18 10:38 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Fri 02/16/18 10:39 AM
Many in society are moving more toward the unnatural .

A person can alter whatever, that is a chioce, doesn't mean it's normal.

Also people should pay out of pocket for their own alterations male or female.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 11:37 AM
I personally have not come to the conclusion that it's a mental or emotional illness but more of the X and Y chromosomes..now in that aspect yes I feel it would effect ones emotions but to conclude that it's an illness and not something in the DNA strand ..I don't feel it's an illness it's just the way it is..

If we tread on the rights of one some day someone might tread on our rights..to be who we are there's where I see the dangers.

You sure have a lot of what ifs that I don't see coming to fruition.I think acceptance is the key whether we agree or not ..they have the right to live the way that makes them happy as long as it harms noone..don't we all have that right..

I feel it's a little judgemental on the part of some that might be the illness..Peace and Love people..smile2

The essence of society is the unification of its people.
Unity is people in agreement. Society is people in agreement.
History proves compliance to societal norms. That change is inspired by trends.

At one time, society accepted smoking. Smoking became a trend. Society changed to accept smoking as a norm. Then, society changed the trend to not smoking. Now, not smoking is the norm.

There are many physical deficiencies that affect mental stability.
Gender is not a physical deficiency. You either are or you are not. Just like there are people that are albinos there are people that are hermaphrodites.

The issue is not with physical mutations. Most of the 'trans' population are not physically mutated. It is their perception that is mutated. Perception is a mind construct. Perceptions can be mutated, changed or reinforced. They certainly are not physical properties of reality.

Humans are animals, first and foremost. It is our personalities that make us people. Society tries to reinforce the delusion that human beings are no longer animals. It supports the idea of people. The concept of 'people' is mutable. The 'animal' of human is not.

Anytime the delusion of self replaces reality it is a form of mental illness. There is a whole medical field dedicated to understanding and treating people's delusions of reality.

To me, I don't really care how 'trans' people conduct themselves.
To me, society has been crazy long before this current trend.
However, I do agree with MightyMoe:

where does my rights start to infringe on your rights? Where is that line? Do I not have the right to not like this crap? Liberals tell me I have to accept whatever they throw out there... I don't want my kids seeing this crap, and I don't wanna see it either... are those not my rights?

no photo
Fri 02/16/18 11:39 AM


I wonder what people would say before women wore make up or had breast implants ..ok I agree that a lot of people don't agree with changing ones gender.For some I don't see it as "look at me I'm different or that they are trying to draw attention to themselves..or theres an illness or that they're sick..

But you know what all we can do is speculate and every one of us could be so far off I'm not beyond admitting the fact that I don't know and that at best could guess..With as many people who are on this site maybe someone here could enlighten us all if they knew their words would be accepted for the knowledge contained and not bashed by ignorance...We may all learn something..

In this aspect I feel bad for people who have to contend with the amount of non acceptance that society breeds...peace and love..smile2

Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 02/16/18 11:52 AM
I wonder what people would say before women wore make up or had breast implants ..ok I agree that a lot of people don't agree with changing ones gender.For some I don't see it as "look at me I'm different or that they are trying to draw attention to themselves..or theres an illness or that they're sick..

But you know what all we can do is speculate and every one of us could be so far off I'm not beyond admitting the fact that I don't know and that at best could guess..With as many people who are on this site maybe someone here could enlighten us all if they knew their words would be accepted for the knowledge contained and not bashed by ignorance...We may all learn something..

In this aspect I feel bad for people who have to contend with the amount of non acceptance that society breeds...peace and love..smile2

In society, peace and love is not important. Understanding is not important. Only compliance and unity in compliance is important to society.

There are many things that society will not tolerate and those things change over time.
The idea that blanket 'acceptance' is a requirement of society is ludicrous. That type of thinking is delusional.

The reality is that life isn't fair to all.
It benefits some and causes sacrifice to others.

As far as I'm concerned (my personal opinion) if you are not as you are, you are a liar. A fraud. Perpetrating a hoax. Acting.
To me, lying is a personal insult and I reject it.

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