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Topic: "just what is the l'azy left' anyways?
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Wed 08/08/18 01:17 PM
and, what makes anyone think there aren't 'lazies' on the right?
(j/s)


and, just who decided what is lazy, and what isn't?

isn't this america...life, liberty, pursuit of happiness?
is happiness working nonstop to buy kitschy plastic crap we don't need and didn't know we wanted?

is working hard enough to accomplish your goals and dreams and then relaxing bad, if they are less toilsome or involved than another's?


is the desire for a more relaxed life in a paradise unsullied by the ravages of the 'non lazies' not a fair pursuit of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness?

is happiness slaving away to make others richer and more powerful so they can have more control over you and your paradise or someone else and their paradise???

are one's pursuits any more or less valuable than another's?

if your pursuits get in the way of others' should you be allowed to continue with them?



does circumstance change opinions?
should it?

how are these parameters set?
how should the be set?

who gets to decide?


hmmmm?


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Wed 08/08/18 01:26 PM

and, what makes anyone think there aren't 'lazies' on the right?
(j/s)


and, just who decided what is lazy, and what isn't?

isn't this america...life, liberty, pursuit of happiness?
is happiness working nonstop to buy kitschy plastic crap we don't need and didn't know we wanted?

is working hard enough to accomplish your goals and dreams and then relaxing bad, if they are less toilsome or involved than another's?


is the desire for a more relaxed life in a paradise unsullied by the ravages of the 'non lazies' not a fair pursuit of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness?

is happiness slaving away to make others richer and more powerful so they can have more control over you and your paradise or someone else and their paradise???

are one's pursuits any more or less valuable than another's?

if your pursuits get in the way of others' should you be allowed to continue with them?



does circumstance change opinions?
should it?

how are these parameters set?
how should the be set?

who gets to decide?


hmmmm?





haaa

thats alot of questions.

lazy left and bigoted right, just distractive titles to avoid serious debate or make up for lack of logic and fact

I think to some lazy is anything for which one has not received a paycheck, and it is not always bad, especially in people who have financial freedom without a paycheck.

circumstances certainly change opinions

if there is empathy and the ability to consider other people's circumstances, they shouldnt change opinions


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Wed 08/08/18 01:33 PM
what about the 'lazy rich'?
... people who sit around in air conditioning all day using wealth siphoned off those that feed, clothe, provide services, and protect, to figure out smart ways to siphon off more money in the system they cleverly designed and maintain to siphon off more and more from the people doing HARD work that doesn't leave them time or resources to try and win in such a system?

does taking time to actually raise one's own family count as laziness?
is that sort of laziness more valuable then work done by the lazy rich who work too hard to raise their own?

who's the lazy one then?

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Wed 08/08/18 02:20 PM
I believe lazy left comes from demographs that show dem run states are out of money broke and have higher unemployment more people on welfare with no mechanism to "force" them into being more self sustained.
Handouts breed laziness in any culture town state country....

Kids who dont have to work...pay taxes...many of whom are allowed to be lazy as hell. Are not taught self disciplines have no ambition.
Dont tell me they are from impoverushed neighborhoods.
Public education exists for all kids.
Many resilient magnificent hard working successful people come from impoverished places.

Dems push to tax at the highest level to pay people who do nothing.
Youre right. People who are rich may be lazy enjoying themselves. They dont owe the world their savings.

I believe we in fact live in a very diverse universe. But the left march to the tune of one pants size fits all. Not so. And quit labeling everyone. Theres nothing diversified about a group of people who only hear themselves speak.

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Wed 08/08/18 02:29 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 08/08/18 02:31 PM

I believe lazy left comes from demographs that show dem run states are out of money broke and have higher unemployment more people on welfare with no mechanism to "force" them into being more self sustained.
Handouts breed laziness in any culture town state country....

Kids who dont have to work...pay taxes...many of whom are allowed to be lazy as hell. Are not taught self disciplines have no ambition.
Dont tell me they are from impoverushed neighborhoods.
Public education exists for all kids.
Many resilient magnificent hard working successful people come from impoverished places.

Dems push to tax at the highest level to pay people who do nothing.
Youre right. People who are rich may be lazy enjoying themselves. They dont owe the world their savings.

I believe we in fact live in a very diverse universe. But the left march to the tune of one pants size fits all. Not so. And quit labeling everyone. Theres nothing diversified about a group of people who only hear themselves speak.



hmmm, do you really believe unemployment means someone is lazy and kids should pay taxes and that all school is created equal?

isnt labeling exactly what it is to say a whole group 'only hear themselves speak'?

I mean, judging only on this site, that affliction is not restricted to either group or either side.

lazy people dont start or stop being lazy because of the mark they check on a ballot box, or the title they choose.

they are in all walks of financial status and political affiliation and philosophy

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Wed 08/08/18 02:42 PM

I believe lazy left comes from demographs that show dem run states are out of money broke and have higher unemployment more people on welfare with no mechanism to "force" them into being more self sustained.
Handouts breed laziness in any culture town state country....

Kids who dont have to work...pay taxes...many of whom are allowed to be lazy as hell. Are not taught self disciplines have no ambition.
Dont tell me they are from impoverushed neighborhoods.
Public education exists for all kids.
Many resilient magnificent hard working successful people come from impoverished places.

Dems push to tax at the highest level to pay people who do nothing.
Youre right. People who are rich may be lazy enjoying themselves. They dont owe the world their savings.

I believe we in fact live in a very diverse universe. But the left march to the tune of one pants size fits all. Not so. And quit labeling everyone. Theres nothing diversified about a group of people who only hear themselves speak.



there seem to be a lot of beliefs in this sesponse that are short on facts.
have you got any?

hmmm, i just thought of a new question...
is not providing facts with universally accepted data laziness?

and, another...
our entire country is broke, and owes quite a bit of money.
the current administration R,R,R, are continually growing the national debt. is this contributing to the laziness?

Sunryzer's photo
Wed 08/08/18 02:53 PM
Edited by Sunryzer on Wed 08/08/18 02:59 PM
Care to zero in on any one thing? Couldnt reply about gutted dem strongholds void of money.

More people working than many decades. Record taxes collected. Boomibg economy.

And dems want to tell their base. Vote for us and everythibg will be free.
Cortez is gonna gut your party some more.

In the mean time Trumps popularity growing like crazy in say...black communities. / PewResearch ..And that 21 percent is far higher than the 8 percent of the vote Trump received in 2016, or the 6 percent Republican Mitt Romney received in 2012.

Proof is all over the place. Dem pilicues keep America broke.

:http://www.people-press.org/2018/06/20/1-views-of-donald-trump/

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Wed 08/08/18 03:00 PM
People throw around labels and think they actually mean something.
Frankly, I don't give a damn.
I think people in general...society is insane.

Throwing all those labels around is so childish, its boring.
slaphead
"I know you are but what am I?"
rofl

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Wed 08/08/18 03:04 PM

Care to zero in on any one thing? Couldnt reply about gutted dem strongholds void of money.

More people working than many decades. Record taxes collected. Boomibg economy.

And dems want to tell their base. Vote for us and everythibg will be free.
Cortez is gonna gut your party some more.

In the mean time Trumps popularity growing like crazy in say...black communities.

Proof is all over the place. Dem pilicues keep America broke.



i was waiting for someone to bust me on that. laugh
it's kind of a trademark.
wait, is that lazy?

lost of spelling errors. is that laziness?

trumps popularity is growing?
in black communities?


economy growing. yes, kinda. is it trump's doings? no. we've been on an upward trajectory since the dems took power from the bush admin's catastrophic control of the govt. trump's riding the wave.

record taxes collected, or record tax breaks for the lazy rich?

you're gonna hafta show me some kind of legitimate proof.
i've seen zero evidence of that at all. quite the contrary actually.

PROOF is all aover the place.
it's laziness that refuses to seek legitimate proof and settles on believing what they want to believe.
or, is it laziness? is it just being a victim of lies by those we pay to work for ALL of us and our collective best interest?.

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Wed 08/08/18 03:06 PM

People throw around labels and think they actually mean something.
Frankly, I don't give a damn.
I think people in general...society is insane.

Throwing all those labels around is so childish, its boring.
slaphead
"I know you are but what am I?"
rofl



HEAR HEAR!!!


wait, was that lazy that i only agreed with his irritations without providing any of my own?
i HATE that!!!
wait, did i just redeem myself?

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/08/18 03:08 PM

Care to zero in on any one thing? Couldnt reply about gutted dem strongholds void of money.

More people working than many decades. Record taxes collected. Boomibg economy.

And dems want to tell their base. Vote for us and everythibg will be free.
Cortez is gonna gut your party some more.

In the mean time Trumps popularity growing like crazy in say...black communities. / PewResearch ..And that 21 percent is far higher than the 8 percent of the vote Trump received in 2016, or the 6 percent Republican Mitt Romney received in 2012.

Proof is all over the place. Dem pilicues keep America broke.

:http://www.people-press.org/2018/06/20/1-views-of-donald-trump/


as populations age and grow comparing raw numbers working becomes less and less significant.

the economy is only 'booming' depending on ones personal perspective, its been better and its been worse.

I am a dem, noone told me everything would be free.

there is not much proof in these forums to back up most of the claims made

dems politics have no history of 'keeping america broke', any more than pubs.




and I also posted the error in comparing a poll/survey to an actual election


the former includes those who voted AND didnt vote, while the latter is only recording voters.

Easttowest72's photo
Wed 08/08/18 03:11 PM
This thread is funny as hell.

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Wed 08/08/18 03:13 PM

This thread is funny as hell.



you're welcome.

wait, is that lazy of you to only laugh at it?

was i negligent in my laziness to have started it? slaphead

Easttowest72's photo
Wed 08/08/18 03:19 PM
Edited by Easttowest72 on Wed 08/08/18 03:22 PM
Let me contribute by saying you can find the lazy left buying a 40 at the convenience store on the 1st of the month. :wink:

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Wed 08/08/18 03:25 PM
as opposed to the lazy rich buying expensive, ill gotten gains booze every other friday?

Sunryzer's photo
Wed 08/08/18 03:26 PM
Edited by Sunryzer on Wed 08/08/18 03:28 PM
Companies hiring everywhere. Thats what I see.

People feel confident they can get jobs too. Those who havent invested their time making themselves unemployable due to drugs and crime.

You were raised right. Want something you have to work for it.

Some look at the glass half empty. Thats not my nature. I was burned out by fire xmas day 3 yrs ago. Homeless after that for almost 2 more yrs. Had to replace everything and I had insurance. Still financially it was horrible.

But got to keep going. Never give up. Find your way. It isnt always easy. Never once did I think panhandling or hanging out at welfare office was going to solve my problems.

BillyLeexy's photo
Wed 08/08/18 03:30 PM
Edited by BillyLeexy on Wed 08/08/18 03:34 PM

I believe lazy left comes from demographs that show dem run states are out of money broke and have higher unemployment more people on welfare with no mechanism to "force" them into being more self sustained.
Handouts breed laziness in any culture town state country....

Kids who dont have to work...pay taxes...many of whom are allowed to be lazy as hell. Are not taught self disciplines have no ambition.
Dont tell me they are from impoverushed neighborhoods.
Public education exists for all kids.
Many resilient magnificent hard working successful people come from impoverished places.

Dems push to tax at the highest level to pay people who do nothing.
Youre right. People who are rich may be lazy enjoying themselves. They dont owe the world their savings.

I believe we in fact live in a very diverse universe. But the left march to the tune of one pants size fits all. Not so. And quit labeling everyone. Theres nothing diversified about a group of people who only hear themselves speak.


Dem-run states? What about KS? MS? Many more. Can't generalize. In my state, the current administration offers huge tax credits to businesses already raking in billions. They have no tax bill and are sent checks for millions over and above that. And this is not a "dem-run" state.

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Wed 08/08/18 03:31 PM
You can't explain to someone, who has never worked and supported themselves, what a deadbeat is. :thinking:

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Wed 08/08/18 03:34 PM
low wages, that's what i see.

people working multiple jobs is what i see.

working for it isn't lazy. is investing it in other's hard work so you can keep an unfair cut of it working hard, or is that just lazy?
and, being the cheating, lazy rich?




my condolences about the fire, and the trouble you endure.
good luck in your continued success.





Sunryzer's photo
Wed 08/08/18 03:34 PM
Spelling errors.
I dont care if I have typos. I also dont let this phone do anything for me. Either I fix them or forget it.
It shows my equality in laziness.
Sometimes I fix them. Sometimes I dont.
I want to be equally lazy and not so lazy.

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