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Topic: Foolishness From NRA
Dodo_David's photo
Sat 11/10/18 05:04 PM
The NRA should be scolded by every decent American.

From Yahoo.com: Nurses, surgeons fire back at NRA with pictures of gun trauma: '#ThisIsMyLane'

Just days after a single gunman took the lives of 12 at a bar in Thousand Oaks, Calif., the National Rifle Association sent an angry tweet Thursday suggesting that the medical community stay out of the gun debate. "Someone should tell self-important anti-gun doctors to stay in their lane. Half of the articles in Annals of Internal Medicine are pushing for gun control," wrote the NRA. "Most upsetting, however, the medical community seems to have consulted NO ONE but themselves."

On Saturday, nurses, doctors, and emergency medical services who have spent years trying to save the lives of gun violence victims launched a viral campaign in response: "#ThisIsMyLane."


The NRA tweet is just the latest example of someone trying to silence those with opposing opinions.

Earlier in 2018, Fox News pundit "Laura Ingraham Told LeBron James To Shut Up And Dribble" when James expressed a political opinion during an interview.

When one doesn't want a diversity of opinions expressed or unpleasant reality mentioned, then one is prone to do this:



The proper response to speech that you don't like is more speech from your side, or so members of the political Right keep saying. Thus, it is hypocritical for people on the political Right to try to silence those they disagree with.

Someone should tell self-important NRA leaders that freedom of speech is just as important as the 2nd Amendment.

Rock's photo
Sat 11/10/18 05:32 PM
The NRA is right.

The anti second amendment lobby, doesn't want
to listen to all sides. Doesn't want the general public
to know, that there are sides other than their own.

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 11/10/18 05:38 PM

The NRA is right.

The anti second amendment lobby, doesn't want
to listen to all sides. Doesn't want the general public
to know, that there are sides other than their own.



The NRA is telling medical professionals to shut up about their beliefs about gun control. That is why the NRA should be scolded by every decent American.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/10/18 05:43 PM
Its interesting ,people point out issues with mental health, but wont listen to issues with guns

or people point out issues with guns, but wont listen to issues with mental health

alot of fingerpointing on both sides, with neither of the sides willing to take at least some responsibility for their part in finding solutions.

its a shame really.

To me, it is a two fold issue.

the first is that there are more people are coming up with NO balance, and NO coping skills, and those who can afford, are diagnosed with mental illness, but that is the end of it until those rare instances when they take lives.


the second is that there is too many weapons available in streets and stores that do military style damage and can be used by the onset of mentally unstable people to take out large numbers of people almost effortlessly and instantly, without them having even a chance.


Will the mental health industry give both sides, advocating for proper resources and programs to treat mental instability AND for the destigmatization of mental illness?

Will the gun industry give both sides, advocating for responsible use of guns AND for responsible manufacture of weapons for hunting and sport for retail, and not the multi death machines that these people keep getting their hands on?

Doubtful, because whenever one starts pointing out responsibility upon someone else, the response is only defense, and sadly never compromise or consideration.



no photo
Sun 11/11/18 04:26 AM

The NRA is right.

The anti second amendment lobby, doesn't want
to listen to all sides. Doesn't want the general public
to know, that there are sides other than their own.


The anti second amendment lobby, wants the easy way out. Fix it, by taking away other people's rights. That doesn't hurt them, there's no pain, and doesn't affect the way they live. That firearm, can be used to obtain power. We want to take away your power. Tell you what to do. Don't like it? Sucks to be you.




Dodo_David's photo
Sun 11/11/18 04:46 AM
Emergency medical personnel aren't anti-2nd-Amendment.
They are anti-bullet-holes-in-innocent-people.
Telling them that they can't speak their minds is un-American.

Toodygirl5's photo
Wed 11/14/18 03:46 PM


The NRA is right.

The anti second amendment lobby, doesn't want
to listen to all sides. Doesn't want the general public
to know, that there are sides other than their own.


The anti second amendment lobby, wants the easy way out. Fix it, by taking away other people's rights. That doesn't hurt them, there's no pain, and doesn't affect the way they live. That firearm, can be used to obtain power. We want to take away your power. Tell you what to do. Don't like it? Sucks to be you.







:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

technovative's photo
Wed 11/14/18 04:15 PM

Emergency medical personnel aren't anti-2nd-Amendment.
They are anti-bullet-holes-in-innocent-people.
Telling them that they can't speak their minds is un-American.


:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Wed 11/14/18 06:47 PM
I wonder if the grocery industry will send a tweet to doctors that advocate for balanced diets, or if cigarette industry will send an angry tweet for cautioning against smoking, or if the media industry will send a tweet because they advocate for kids to be involved in activity?

some people, any publicity is good publicity. I guess NRA is no exception to that.

JuanKnucklehead's photo
Fri 11/16/18 09:04 PM

Remember,,150 million LEGAL gun owners didn't shoot anyone today.

What people don't understand is, Once they kill #2 what is going to stop them from getting rid of #1, #4 #7 & 8 #13 #15 #19 and so on.
Thats the part (and most important thing) you anti gun Nazis dont seem to get. Once they take #2 what is in the way to start taking whatever they want. You cant seem to see the forest because of the trees

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/16/18 11:31 PM
Who is # 2? What 'they' are going to kill #2.

What is a gun nazi?

Why is enforcing laws for guns different than any other kind of law. we have freedom of speech, but we also have laws against slander and libel. We have freedom to assemble, but we also have laws against disruption of the peace or inciting riots.

no freedom has NO boundary or oversight, in a country of hundreds of millions, because that would be chaos and not sustainable.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Sat 11/17/18 12:13 AM
I don't give a damn what the NRA says.
I don't give a damn what the righteous majority says.
People kill people and people kill people in a wide range of methods of which guns are only a small percentage.

The issue is not the guns or anything having to do with guns.
The issue is people wanting to kill people.
Until we figure out how to stop people from killing people that problem will persist.

The solution lies not in preventing guns but in preventing the hatred or fear that causes people to kill people.
I mean, the real issue, the issue that drives the insanity, is people.
To remove the threat, the imperative must first be understood, then repaired

For any civilization to exceed animalistic urges, those urges must be understood then actively circumvented. The guns are NOT the problem, never has been.

no photo
Sat 11/17/18 06:05 AM
^^^^ Exactly. If the gun isn't available, they'll just find another tool to do the job. The anti-gun lobby is just trying to take the easy way out.

What it boils down to, some want to control what others do. That's the common theme of all of the dems arguments. We want to run your show, our way. The brain God gave you, we got one too. We choose to not be the zombies you insist we be.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/17/18 10:09 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 11/17/18 10:21 AM
I believe the problem is complex, and to either Blame or pass over ANY part of it is not helpful or logical.

For instance, take automobiles. We have regulations for driving a vehicle regarding things like pollution and speed and intoxication. now, of course, people get in accidents without cars, people get in accidents without speeding, and people get into accidents stone sober, so the purpose of these laws can and never will be to eradicate all accidents, but instead to limit how often and how many. Anything we use is a TOOL, and any tool is useless without someone to use it and someone to have motivation to use them. But the TOOLS can potentially cause much more harm in the hands of someone with no boundaries or rules or laws concerning their use and manufacture, than in the hands of one who does have and follow those boundaries, rules or laws.

So the guns ARE a big part of the problem, imho, regardless of whether they are the only reason or MEANS for people to kill or not. It is ALSO part of the problem that people feel the motivation to kill.

I dont want the manufacture of cars that can drop tacks on the road, not because I am an 'anti car nazi', but because the potential positive outcome of such features is a short list compared to the potential negative outcomes. This is the same when it comes to the capabilities of the GUNS sold to or available to civilians. Im not sure why the difference between people who want preventive laws and regulations and rules based in safety, and people who want someone's "Guns taken away" is so easily blurred by the politics of the gun safety discussion.




I remember feeling the same way growing up when I heard of parents who let their kids do all types of illicit things at home because, "Well, theyre gonna do it anyway," type of thing.

I think we can have responsible boundaries that lessen the potential danger of any tool available, guns are not an exception.

technovative's photo
Sat 11/17/18 01:13 PM
The primary purpose of rapid fire guns is to increase killing efficiency. A single terrorist on a shooting rampage armed with two six shot revolvers can only shoot a maximum of twelve targets before reloading. If that terrorist is armed with one high capacity rapid fire gun they can shoot dozens.

Fewer high capacity rapid fire guns = fewer bodies riddled with bullet holes by one terrorist. I'm in favor of that.

Tom's photo
Sat 11/17/18 03:23 PM
Lol, its not important how fast you shoot. I'm always astonished why not more people died. If you trained n expiriend you can change magazines in seconds, np if you have magazine capacity of 3or10 rounds or automatic. Btw, if i do i use knife. No bang and in range of 10 mtrs. no chance to stay alive. Only people who fear carry weapons....

Tom's photo
Sat 11/17/18 03:27 PM
Better to give this traumatized people help!

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 11/17/18 03:35 PM
Some people are grossly mischaracterizing what the topic of this thread is.

The topic is the attempt to silence people.

technovative's photo
Sat 11/17/18 04:34 PM
David, I know it can be annoying when discussion of a specific topic goes off on a tangent, but as you know, it's a common occurrence. And the tangent that this topic has gone off on is pretty relevant to the original topic, in my opinion.

Back on topic: I support medical professionals right to voice their concerns. I also support their right to advocate for legislation, that they believe could reduce the frequency, and injury severity, of gun violence victims that end up in their care.

The NRA continues to damage it's credibility, and do it's members a disservice, by futilely attempting to bully over other Americans rights, with un-American rhetoric.

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/17/18 05:54 PM

David, I know it can be annoying when discussion of a specific topic goes off on a tangent, but as you know, it's a common occurrence. And the tangent that this topic has gone off on is pretty relevant to the original topic, in my opinion.

Back on topic: I support medical professionals right to voice their concerns. I also support their right to advocate for legislation, that they believe could reduce the frequency, and injury severity, of gun violence victims that end up in their care.

The NRA continues to damage it's credibility, and do it's members a disservice, by futilely attempting to bully over other Americans rights, with un-American rhetoric.


Very well put drinker

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