Topic: Impeachment
Ladywind7's photo
Thu 12/19/19 11:05 AM
His tweets though... :zipper_mouth:

Let'sDoThis's photo
Thu 12/19/19 11:09 AM
democRATS can't prove any laws broken.
Mitch McConnell just reported, everything the big pile of Shiff put out to be baseless.
Zero crime.
I, like OUR President, want a trial.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 12/19/19 02:28 PM

democRATS can't prove any laws broken.
Mitch McConnell just reported, everything the big pile of Shiff put out to be baseless.
Zero crime.
I, like OUR President, want a trial.



Let'sDoThis's photo
Thu 12/19/19 02:30 PM


democRATS can't prove any laws broken.
Mitch McConnell just reported, everything the big pile of Shiff put out to be baseless.
Zero crime.
I, like OUR President, want a trial.




What?
To accept President Trump will be here for 5 more years?
rofl rofl rofl smokin

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/19 02:30 PM
I want the charges of obstruction of justice(intimidating witnesses, etc) and abuse of power (using position for personal favors) fully examined.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 12/19/19 03:12 PM

I want the charges of obstruction of justice(intimidating witnesses, etc) and abuse of power (using position for personal favors) fully examined.


The entire world saw Trump use his Twitter account to intimidate witnesses.

Argo's photo
Thu 12/19/19 03:17 PM
1. the House votes on Articles of impeachment (2 charges)
2. the leaders of House & Senate agree on rules of trial
3. AFTER agreement on rules the trial commences
4. the Senate acting as jurors take an oath to be fair and unbiased
5. the evidence is provided according to the rules of agreement
6. the jurors decision is limited to remove/or not remove the president...

that is it, nothing else---if the Senate votes to remove the president
he now is considered no more than any other citizen and can be prosecuted
for any criminal charges brought against him...

if they vote not to remove he will remain and business of the government
will go forth as usual...

Trump HAS been IMPEACHED, that will never change
it is still unknown if he will remain...

at present we are on step number 2

Let'sDoThis's photo
Thu 12/19/19 04:51 PM
Pollak: Senate Can Acquit Even If House Withholds Articles of Impeachment

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/19 11:40 PM

1. the House votes on Articles of impeachment (2 charges)
2. the leaders of House & Senate agree on rules of trial
3. AFTER agreement on rules the trial commences
4. the Senate acting as jurors take an oath to be fair and unbiased
5. the evidence is provided according to the rules of agreement
6. the jurors decision is limited to remove/or not remove the president...

that is it, nothing else---if the Senate votes to remove the president
he now is considered no more than any other citizen and can be prosecuted
for any criminal charges brought against him...

if they vote not to remove he will remain and business of the government
will go forth as usual...

Trump HAS been IMPEACHED, that will never change
it is still unknown if he will remain...

at present we are on step number 2



Thank you for the concise explanation.happy

oldkid46's photo
Fri 12/20/19 07:39 AM


1. the House votes on Articles of impeachment (2 charges)
2. the leaders of House & Senate agree on rules of trial
3. AFTER agreement on rules the trial commences
4. the Senate acting as jurors take an oath to be fair and unbiased
5. the evidence is provided according to the rules of agreement
6. the jurors decision is limited to remove/or not remove the president...

that is it, nothing else---if the Senate votes to remove the president
he now is considered no more than any other citizen and can be prosecuted
for any criminal charges brought against him...

if they vote not to remove he will remain and business of the government
will go forth as usual...

Trump HAS been IMPEACHED, that will never change
it is still unknown if he will remain...

at present we are on step number 2



Thank you for the concise explanation.happy
There was an op-ed this morning by a law professor stating that there was no impeachment until the articles of impeachment were delivered to the Senate for trial.

Argo's photo
Fri 12/20/19 07:47 AM
the one by Noah Feltman or Feldman ?

Let'sDoThis's photo
Fri 12/20/19 07:48 AM



1. the House votes on Articles of impeachment (2 charges)
2. the leaders of House & Senate agree on rules of trial
3. AFTER agreement on rules the trial commences
4. the Senate acting as jurors take an oath to be fair and unbiased
5. the evidence is provided according to the rules of agreement
6. the jurors decision is limited to remove/or not remove the president...

that is it, nothing else---if the Senate votes to remove the president
he now is considered no more than any other citizen and can be prosecuted
for any criminal charges brought against him...

if they vote not to remove he will remain and business of the government
will go forth as usual...

Trump HAS been IMPEACHED, that will never change
it is still unknown if he will remain...

at present we are on step number 2



Thank you for the concise explanation.happy
There was an op-ed this morning by a law professor stating that there was no impeachment until the articles of impeachment were delivered to the Senate for trial.

Also reported, Pelosi is guilty of quid-pro-quo for withholding this impeachment until her demands are met.

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/20/19 03:31 PM
I did not hear her mention a mandate for conditions. All she said was they were not going to announce ON THE DAY of the vote, what management choices they were making. They were going to determine that once they got the guidelines being used for the proceedings. I Know educated decisions are scandalous in this day and age to many people, but to me, it is only responsible and mature.

jaish's photo
Fri 12/20/19 05:06 PM

I did not hear her mention a mandate for conditions. All she said was they were not going to announce ON THE DAY of the vote, what management choices they were making. They were going to determine that once they got the guidelines being used for the proceedings. I Know educated decisions are scandalous in this day and age to many people, but to me, it is only responsible and mature.


Why then, has Speaker Pelosi invited the President to deliver the State of the Union Address on February 4, 2020 ?


no photo
Fri 12/20/19 06:30 PM
Well it is panto season
Politics so often reminds me of a pantomime
With 1 huge difference
Pantomimes are entertaining

' he's behind you '

' oh no he's not '

( altogether now children)
' OH YES HE IS '

no photo
Fri 12/20/19 06:37 PM
https://youtu.be/TOjYsKqaSVM

:point_up_2: Treasons greetings, an impeachment Christmas Carol :ok_hand::notes::kissing_heart:

Argo's photo
Fri 12/20/19 09:42 PM

I did not hear her mention a mandate for conditions. All she said was they were not going to announce ON THE DAY of the vote, what management choices they were making. They were going to determine that once they got the guidelines being used for the proceedings. I Know educated decisions are scandalous in this day and age to many people, but to me, it is only responsible and mature.

I didn't hear her demand anything either.....imo.. Nancy is only being
hospitable and polite in offering the president a reasonable amount time
to save face and submit his resignation during the Christmas break....

Hi Ho,Hi Ho,... off to Mar-a-Lago he goes...

jaish's photo
Sat 12/21/19 01:27 AM


I did not hear her mention a mandate for conditions. All she said was they were not going to announce ON THE DAY of the vote, what management choices they were making. They were going to determine that once they got the guidelines being used for the proceedings. I Know educated decisions are scandalous in this day and age to many people, but to me, it is only responsible and mature.

I didn't hear her demand anything either.....imo.. Nancy is only being
hospitable and polite in offering the president a reasonable amount time
to save face and submit his resignation during the Christmas break....

Hi Ho,Hi Ho,... off to Mar-a-Lago he goes...


So impeachment articles are to hang like Damocles Sword.
And henceforth, President Trump has to roll over to Congress.
He may no longer fire his chauffeur without approvals.

Welcome to Parliamentary Democracy - like in UK and ahem,
like in India.

msharmony's photo
Sat 12/21/19 06:13 AM


I did not hear her mention a mandate for conditions. All she said was they were not going to announce ON THE DAY of the vote, what management choices they were making. They were going to determine that once they got the guidelines being used for the proceedings. I Know educated decisions are scandalous in this day and age to many people, but to me, it is only responsible and mature.


Why then, has Speaker Pelosi invited the President to deliver the State of the Union Address on February 4, 2020 ?





Who knows? Maybe because that is approximately the date he delivered it THIS year?


msharmony's photo
Sat 12/21/19 06:36 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 12/21/19 06:38 AM



I did not hear her mention a mandate for conditions. All she said was they were not going to announce ON THE DAY of the vote, what management choices they were making. They were going to determine that once they got the guidelines being used for the proceedings. I Know educated decisions are scandalous in this day and age to many people, but to me, it is only responsible and mature.

I didn't hear her demand anything either.....imo.. Nancy is only being
hospitable and polite in offering the president a reasonable amount time
to save face and submit his resignation during the Christmas break....

Hi Ho,Hi Ho,... off to Mar-a-Lago he goes...


So impeachment articles are to hang like Damocles Sword.
And henceforth, President Trump has to roll over to Congress.
He may no longer fire his chauffeur without approvals.

Welcome to Parliamentary Democracy - like in UK and ahem,
like in India.




Dicatator Trump does not 'have to' do anything. That is the problem.

The vote was only Thursday. The sky is not falling.