Topic: Health risks ... from illness... and how to prepare...
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Sun 03/08/20 05:23 AM
Vitune C and D helps your immune system. So in other words, let sunlight hit your exposed skin for at least 15 minutes and eat an apple. You can eat citrus fruits as long as you don't get batsh't crazy about it and give yourself citric acid poisoning.

The old saying, "An apple a day keeps the doctor away".

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Sun 03/08/20 06:36 AM
I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quaranteen, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quaranteen, then the impact on our economy will be serious.

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Sun 03/08/20 08:45 AM

I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quarantine, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quarantine, then the impact on our economy will be serious.


From what I've seen over the weeks has me believing this virus is a bio-weapon made by the chinese. The only reason I see why all these politicians are afraid is because the elderly are more likely to die from it then anyone else. Of cause the politicians are going to stop themselves from catching it. Screw the rest of us.

Of cause there are probably some who give a crap about us peasants and surfs. Don't believe they're all are doing this in good faith.

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Sun 03/08/20 09:02 AM


I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quarantine, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quarantine, then the impact on our economy will be serious.


From what I've seen over the weeks has me believing this virus is a bio-weapon made by the chinese. The only reason I see why all these politicians are afraid is because the elderly are more likely to die from it then anyone else. Of cause the politicians are going to stop themselves from catching it. Screw the rest of us.

Of cause there are probably some who give a crap about us peasants and surfs. Don't believe they're all are doing this in good faith.

Unfortunately, you can never rule out that possibility, either accidental or deliberate. The last time that there was an outbreak of "foot and mouth" disease here, it was eventually traced back to the bio-chemical research centre at Portondown in Salisbury. It escaped into the sewage system because of a broken filter.

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Sun 03/08/20 12:50 PM
Edited by SpaceCodet on Sun 03/08/20 12:52 PM



I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quarantine, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quarantine, then the impact on our economy will be serious.


From what I've seen over the weeks has me believing this virus is a bio-weapon made by the chinese. The only reason I see why all these politicians are afraid is because the elderly are more likely to die from it then anyone else. Of cause the politicians are going to stop themselves from catching it. Screw the rest of us.

Of cause there are probably some who give a crap about us peasants and surfs. Don't believe they're all are doing this in good faith.

Unfortunately, you can never rule out that possibility, either accidental or deliberate. The last time that there was an outbreak of "foot and mouth" disease here, it was eventually traced back to the bio-chemical research centre at Portondown in Salisbury. It escaped into the sewage system because of a broken filter.


There's a Bio Lab in New York that let loose what's called "Lyme Disease". Now when you go hunting you'll need to watch out for Deer Tics. These people always need to mess with viruses and diseases designed to cripple troops on the battlefield.

Staff: "Oops. Something got out into the populace."
Politician: "Don't care. It'll be fine."

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Sun 03/08/20 01:17 PM

I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quaranteen, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quaranteen, then the impact on our economy will be serious.
hi seamus waving without a doubt the infection rates and economic hardships is very concerning . I think it is too early to understand what this disease represents in terms of mortality , already the figures are changing .. I believe they will continue to rise especially within third world countries and those with limited healthcare resources . Latest report from the world health organisation states 3.4% death rate .

http://www.sciencealert.com/covid-19-s-death-rate-is-higher-than-thought-but-it-should-drop

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Mon 03/09/20 03:59 AM


I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quaranteen, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quaranteen, then the impact on our economy will be serious.
hi seamus waving without a doubt the infection rates and economic hardships is very concerning . I think it is too early to understand what this disease represents in terms of mortality , already the figures are changing .. I believe they will continue to rise especially within third world countries and those with limited healthcare resources . Latest report from the world health organisation states 3.4% death rate .

http://www.sciencealert.com/covid-19-s-death-rate-is-higher-than-thought-but-it-should-drop




With billions of replications of the virus and it passing through millions of people in each country, then the chances of it mutating into something far worse is always very real.

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Mon 03/09/20 07:49 AM

I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quaranteen, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quaranteen, then the impact on our economy will be serious.

Regardless of quarantining many people, if some 50% of the population is to get ill, the economy will suffer as well.
I think it's a good thing they locked (northern) Italy. The best thing to do still is containment, especially since we know so little about it and there's no medicine that can help.


OT - Numbers over here are rising still. Yesterday we had 77 new cases.
Many in my village apparently are getting scared as we have one in home isolation here in the village.
I just went to the supermarket, it was incredibly quiet.

I do wonder how it's gonna go. My area depends almost 100% on tourism. If they don't come, people with restaurants, campings, hotels, supermarkets and other shops suffer terribly. Might mean bankruptcy for some. Wait and see.
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed we get less Germans. Most that come here are from the worst infected area in Germany, and they come here in the thousands.

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Mon 03/09/20 10:13 AM


I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quaranteen, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quaranteen, then the impact on our economy will be serious.

Regardless of quarantining many people, if some 50% of the population is to get ill, the economy will suffer as well.
I think it's a good thing they locked (northern) Italy. The best thing to do still is containment, especially since we know so little about it and there's no medicine that can help.


OT - Numbers over here are rising still. Yesterday we had 77 new cases.
Many in my village apparently are getting scared as we have one in home isolation here in the village.
I just went to the supermarket, it was incredibly quiet.

I do wonder how it's gonna go. My area depends almost 100% on tourism. If they don't come, people with restaurants, campings, hotels, supermarkets and other shops suffer terribly. Might mean bankruptcy for some. Wait and see.
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed we get less Germans. Most that come here are from the worst infected area in Germany, and they come here in the thousands.

There are something like 350 confirmed cases in the UK, with four deaths so far. There are a few confirmed cases in nearby towns like Bury and Bolton but I'm sure there will be more. Most supermarkets have limited the purchase of anti-bacterial products and toilet paper and long-life milk and even dried pasta but no actual food restrictions yet. I was in a supermarket earlier and there was far fewer people about than usual even on the roads.
There's a lot of places even in the UK that do rely largely on tourism, so this will definitely effect them even without the kind of loose quaranteen zone that Italy has established, although I do think that those will be introduced here soon enough. As you said, containment is the only real defence that we have but with the EU, open borders are an article of faith.

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Mon 03/09/20 10:39 AM
With my health deteriorating if I get it, I'm a statistic and will not survive.
While I'm really not too worried about it, I did read this today...

http://www.accuweather.com/en/health-wellness/whats-the-latest-on-coronavirus/691967

Highlights:

Coronavirus, officially recognized as COVID-19, took less than three months to travel around the world. After surfacing in late 2019, the virus has spread to more than 50 countries and claimed thousands of lives.

After weeks of slowly spreading around the United States, the first American fatality from the virus occurred outside Seattle, Washington, in King County just before the calendar flipped to March. As of Friday, 15 deaths were blamed on the COVID-19 in the U.S., 11 in Washington state and one in California.

While the World Health Organization (WHO) has avoided deeming the virus a pandemic, WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said, "This virus has pandemic potential."


"Three things the virus does not like: 1. Sunlight, 2. Temperature and 3. Humidity," Nicholls said in remarks that were leaked on social media. "The virus can remain intact at 4 degrees Celsius (39 degrees Fahrenheit) or 10 degrees C (50 F)...But at 30 degrees C (86 degrees F) then you get inactivation."


March 9, 12:07 p.m.

Officials in Dublin, Ireland announced that their annual Saint Patrick's Day parade has been cancelled due to coronavirus concerns.

The second-largest parade, located in Cork, has also been cancelled, CNN reports.

According to data from Johns Hopkins University, Ireland has 21 confirmed cases of COVID-19.

March 9, 11:43 a.m.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced on Monday that New York would begin distributing state made hand sanitizer to state corporations like the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA). In announcing the product, Cuomo also addressed major sellers such as Purell, Amazon and eBay in accusing the the companies of price gouging.

“We’re hearing from local governments that acquiring hand sanitizer has been a real problem,” Gov. Cuomo said on Twitter. “NYS will immediately begin producing hand sanitizer ourselves – 100,000 gallons per week. We’ll provide it to government agencies, schools, the MTA, prisons, & others. #COVID19”

“Also to Purell and Mr. Amazon and Mr. eBay, if you continue the price gouging, we will introduce our product, which is superior to your product,” he said. “And you don’t even have the floral bouquet [smell].”


March 9, 11:24 a.m.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) issued a news release on Monday that said they have issued warnings to seven companies that have been selling "fraudulent" COVID-19 products that claim to be able to treat or cure the virus. There is no current drug or vaccination for COVID-19 approved by either the FTC or FDA.

"These products are unapproved drugs that pose significant risks to patient health and violate federal law," they said in the release.

The FDA and FTC said using these products instead of receiving medical treatment can lead to serious harm that could potentially become life-threatening.

March 9, 11:08 a.m.

There are now 100 countries and territories that have confirmed cases of COVID-19, according to a situation report released by The World Health Organization (WHO).

The WHO also says that in the past 24 hours, eight new countries or territories have confirmed their first cases, including Bulgaria and Costa Rica.


March 9, 9:49 a.m.

A sharp decline on Wall Street brought about a temporary halt to trading. The automatic halt was triggered by a 7 percent decline in the S&P 500 from the previous day’s close, leading to a 15 minute pause.

International markets have also seen Monday plunges as markets in Frankfurt and London are down 8 percent.

March 9, 6:56 a.m.

Here are the updated COVID-19 global numbers on Monday morning, according to Johns Hopkins University.

Total confirmed cases: 111,224

Total deaths: 3,892

Total recovered: 62,369


March 9, 5:48 a.m.

The BNP Paribas Open, a tennis tournament set to be held in Indian Wells, California, has been canceled, making it the first major sporting event in the U.S. to be called off due to the coronavirus.

March 8, 8:03 p.m.

Eight U.S. states have declared a state of emergency in response to confirmed coronavirus cases as of Sunday evening.

Washington state, Florida and California were among the first to declare a state of emergency after confirming the the only fatalities in the U.S. There have been at least 21 deaths from the coronavirus in the nation, most of which have been from Washington.

Kentucky, New York, Maryland, Utah and Oregon followed suit in declaring a state of emergency, respectively, within the past few days.


March 8, 7:37 p.m.

Here is the updated COVID-19 data provided by researchers from Johns Hopkins University:

Total confirmed cases: 109,835

Total deaths: 3,803

Total recovered: 60,695

The global fatality rate has consistently stayed around 3.4 percent.

March 8, 5:22 p.m.

Massachusetts has confirmed 15 new COVID-19 cases, bringing the state total to 28, according to the state Department of Health.

Five of the newly confirmed cases were located in Boston, bringing the amount of cases in the city to eight. According to the Boston Public Health Commission, “there is now evidence of community transmission.”

None of the cases in Boston required hospitalization and are currently self-isolating.

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Mon 03/09/20 10:39 AM
Edited by Tom4Uhere on Mon 03/09/20 10:40 AM
Duplicate post due to gateway timeout during submission.

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Mon 03/09/20 10:58 AM
Edited by Seamus on Mon 03/09/20 11:00 AM
It is becoming quite serious despite the relatively low death rate. It's no comfort to anyone in the "at risk" category due to age, lower immune system or illness. The main problem is the widespread penetration of the virus into the human population because of its novelty and the fact that all Corona viruses are difficult to treat if someone does progress to the critical stage. Even without that, if a largish proportion of a given population is self quarenteened, then the effects on the supply chains will be significant.

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Mon 03/09/20 09:17 PM
Edited by SeantheChristian on Mon 03/09/20 09:26 PM




thank you ... I heard about the 5G... and heard it was pretty serious ...


don't know but someone is going to loose a lot of money on it ...
+ thought I heard here in the USA ...they where getting 5G ... or already have thought he lifted the sanctions on it ...


Lose a lot of money on it?huh Who ever said they cared about money?pitchfork The RF radiation is already too high for regular phones talking on the ear, 5G is a death sentence. Once 5G is on my doorstep, my butt is GOOOOOOONE! They want people to die. Ever see the "Georgia Guide stones?"


Why is "5G tech" post in Covid-19 thread?

Covid 19 is now in 50 countries - no joking matter!

China-----------78,814 cases----2788 deaths as on this Friday
----------------------------was 1518 deaths on 14th Feb - 2 weeks ago

South Korea------2,022 cases a second report says 3000 plus
Japan--------------894 cases
Italy--------------650 - It was just 16 cases reported on 21st Feb!!!
Iran---------------245 - Iran claims 43 cases
Singapore-----------96
Hong Kong-----------93
the US--------------60
Kuwait--------------43
Thailand------------41
France--------------38
Australia-----------23
Germany-------------21
the UK--------------15
Canada--------------12
India----------------3 - patients, Med students from Wuhan - recovered !! -
Pakistan-------------2
Denmark--------------1
the Netherlands------1
New Zealand----------1






thank yousmile2 maybe something to do with death laugh


Because 5G is the coronavirus? oh look... https://www.disclose.tv/wuhan-was-the-province-where-5g-was-rolled-out-now-the-center-of-deadly-virus-388570 Not that it matters, the coronavirus is all hype and means nothing. Its a joke to me. I'm just seeing all the coincidence behind it and 5G.


Scientists warn of potential serious health effects of 5G>>>

https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://ehtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/Scientist-5G-appeal-2017.pdf


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Tue 03/10/20 06:26 AM





thank you ... I heard about the 5G... and heard it was pretty serious ...


don't know but someone is going to loose a lot of money on it ...
+ thought I heard here in the USA ...they where getting 5G ... or already have thought he lifted the sanctions on it ...


Lose a lot of money on it?huh Who ever said they cared about money?pitchfork The RF radiation is already too high for regular phones talking on the ear, 5G is a death sentence. Once 5G is on my doorstep, my butt is GOOOOOOONE! They want people to die. Ever see the "Georgia Guide stones?"


Why is "5G tech" post in Covid-19 thread?

Covid 19 is now in 50 countries - no joking matter!

China-----------78,814 cases----2788 deaths as on this Friday
----------------------------was 1518 deaths on 14th Feb - 2 weeks ago

South Korea------2,022 cases a second report says 3000 plus
Japan--------------894 cases
Italy--------------650 - It was just 16 cases reported on 21st Feb!!!
Iran---------------245 - Iran claims 43 cases
Singapore-----------96
Hong Kong-----------93
the US--------------60
Kuwait--------------43
Thailand------------41
France--------------38
Australia-----------23
Germany-------------21
the UK--------------15
Canada--------------12
India----------------3 - patients, Med students from Wuhan - recovered !! -
Pakistan-------------2
Denmark--------------1
the Netherlands------1
New Zealand----------1






thank yousmile2 maybe something to do with death laugh


Because 5G is the coronavirus? oh look... https://www.disclose.tv/wuhan-was-the-province-where-5g-was-rolled-out-now-the-center-of-deadly-virus-388570 Not that it matters, the coronavirus is all hype and means nothing. Its a joke to me. I'm just seeing all the coincidence behind it and 5G.


Scientists warn of potential serious health effects of 5G>>>

https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://ehtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/Scientist-5G-appeal-2017.pdf





would you take your 5G to tech ...this has nothing to do with the Viruses ... any more I will Report never have I did that but I will ...

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Tue 03/10/20 08:19 AM
Sometime in the next fortnight, it's expected that the UK will move from the containment stage (self-isolation, tracing the contacts of people with the virus and medical treatment) to the delaying stage. This involves Italian style quarenteen over large areas, banning of public gatherings and shutting down schools to delay the spread of the disease as much as possible.
In the event of a very widespread or dangerous infection, if the Corona virus does mutate into something altogether more serious, then we will enter the mitigation phase. This involves possible mandatory curfews and the distribution of medicine and other necessities to households by the emergency services and army.

Rock's photo
Tue 03/10/20 03:08 PM
By comparison,

Governments and media,
treated H1N1, SARS, and ebola,
almost as a 'much ado about nothing'.

And, suddenly, we have Wuflu/coronavirus
being treated by gov. and media, as if it's
the coming of the feared mythological
"Slate Sweeper", that'll end all life on the
planet.


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Tue 03/10/20 04:19 PM

By comparison,

Governments and media,
treated H1N1, SARS, and ebola,
almost as a 'much ado about nothing'.

And, suddenly, we have Wuflu/coronavirus
being treated by gov. and media, as if it's
the coming of the feared mythological
"Slate Sweeper", that'll end all life on the
planet.



Yes, it's just odd isn't it? Almost like an excuse or cover about something completely different?

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Tue 03/10/20 07:59 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Tue 03/10/20 08:14 PM


By comparison,

Governments and media,
treated H1N1, SARS, and ebola,
almost as a 'much ado about nothing'.

And, suddenly, we have Wuflu/coronavirus
being treated by gov. and media, as if it's
the coming of the feared mythological
"Slate Sweeper", that'll end all life on the
planet.



Yes, it's just odd isn't it? Almost like an excuse or cover about something completely different?



well they finally got someone in there ...that knows what they are talking about ... first step ... should have been as soon as they new ...

but get this I just heard ... sure they are testing those off planes from china but not Italy and it is more abandon there ... their not cking them WTF ... this is serious and more dangerous then the others... we have had ... heard test have been ordered but not sure when they will all be released... and will they be free ? an where do u get tested ... are they going to set the tents up ...

and this ... nothing to do with the virus... but the health of people in Japan an others ... their getting ready to dump all of what was left in those nukes from yrs ago in to the ocean ... OMG ... that is going to do some damage also ... grumble

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Tue 03/10/20 08:10 PM



I think that the real problem with any of these novel viruses isn't the death rate but the infection rate and the economic effects. A quarter of Italy is in quaranteen, which seems a little excessive considering the 1% death rate, but you do have to consider the possibilities of mutation into something much more serious.
Here in the UK, it's expected that the virus will infect 80% of the population, the vast majority of whom will recover in a fortnight or so. However, if 80% of your population is in voluntary quaranteen, then the impact on our economy will be serious.
hi seamus waving without a doubt the infection rates and economic hardships is very concerning . I think it is too early to understand what this disease represents in terms of mortality , already the figures are changing .. I believe they will continue to rise especially within third world countries and those with limited healthcare resources . Latest report from the world health organisation states 3.4% death rate .

http://www.sciencealert.com/covid-19-s-death-rate-is-higher-than-thought-but-it-should-drop




With billions of replications of the virus and it passing through millions of people in each country, then the chances of it mutating into something far worse is always very real.




it is here and just a matter of time the loss we will have :>( where jhust getting started ...
really contagious thats the problem and saying stay 7 to 8 ft from someone ...


and thanks Blondy for you input :heart: u be careful also flowerforyou and for thanks for work you do ... for others ...



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Tue 03/10/20 09:41 PM
Stop traveling.