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Topic: Police brutality ...
mysticalview21's photo
Fri 05/29/20 04:41 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Fri 05/29/20 05:07 AM
I have said this before ...their are police that get away with murder and then ... some that are really great cops ... and understand the laws for any nationality ...their has been to many police that do wrong ... and are cought on tape ... and some even walk ... that communities believe they think they are gods and get away with anything ... I do try and keep up on this ramped brutality on mainly black or just some that are just horrible police officer...


now this new one where the black man was choked to death becouse he could not breath ... like the other who was selling cigs in the street he died also the same way ... but this new one oh my Gawd... I really could not believe what i was watching ... this cop had handcuffed this black man then had kneeled down on this mans neck ...while his face was in the concrete ... an telling them he could not breath... all the while the cop had his hands in his pockets like he just killed a trophy ... every death like this... take you back to those who police got away with murder or brutality ...and when their is riot most are
peaceful ... but then some think its a good excuse to set fires and steal from businesses ... these are the one not on the same page of those rioting for justice for their family... and is know ones fault do to the cause of brutality and deaths... that happen ... I heard our police officers are not trained enough to be able to carry out these kinds of actions ... their have just been so many that turn on blacks for sometimes know reason at all ... a lot stay in my mind ... like to one black man shot in front of is family be telling a police officer he had papers to carry a gun ... the police man just shot him ... I could go on with all of the abuse black people take by the police ... seems they are trained to kill first ... but these black people are not robbing banks ... and what about the children the innocent who just get shot becouse of a toy gun ... just shot that little boy in the park that night ... their all there in my mind how honorific thing are for some cities ... and such force done to this women after being arrested ... I could go on and on with these kinds of brutality from police ... feel free to post what u remember for anyone that was britalized or killed ... TCBS...

https://youtu.be/0bvHF8J9Fu8


https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/26/george-floyd-man-dies-after-being-arrested-by-minneapolis-police-fbi-called-to-investigate/


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Fri 05/29/20 06:12 AM
Is it "gang up on one group" day? There isn't a higher percentage of evil police than there is in the general public.

It is sickening, undoubtedly. Normal people are horrified. But a celebration of it? Who does that?

motowndowntown's photo
Fri 05/29/20 07:34 AM
Being a cop is a tough job, even more so now than it was twenty or thirty years ago. Some guys are good at it. Some guys are not so good. And some guys shouldn't be doing it at all.

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Fri 05/29/20 07:54 AM

Being a cop is a tough job, even more so now than it was twenty or thirty years ago. Some guys are good at it. Some guys are not so good. And some guys shouldn't be doing it at all.


Amen...

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Fri 05/29/20 07:54 AM
Want to know who to blame for this environment? Take a look at CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, etc etc etc...

For years they have spouted example after example of false narratives, making claims of racism that didn't exist. Trayvon Martin was physically assaulting his "cold-blooded" killer at the time he was shot. The media showed him with his cute photos when he was 8 but seemed to forget to mention his criminal record and made false claims he was simply walking home when he was creeping through bushes on a rainy night looking into house windows.

Michael Brown was just walking home when he was gunned down in Ferguson, MO...the press made sure you heard the fiction of "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" but didn't want to talk about it anymore once videotape surfaced of him committing strong-armed robbery and assault of a convenience store clerk moments before..and they also didn't want to talk about how he had assaulted the Police Office and was coming back for a second round when he got shot. These facts remain ignored while his mother is out on her book tour.

Alton Sterling shooting took place after he scuffled with two white police officers outside a convenience store. Philando Castile was shot in his car because he refused to listen to instructions of the police officer who reacted, because of the spike in ambush killings of police officers in 2016, when he knew there was a weapon in the car and thought Castile was going for the weapon. Just one day later in Dallas, 5 officers were killed and 9 others injured when Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed them.

So, this has become a self-fulfilling prophecy. For years the media insisted that cops were purposely gunning down unarmed black men. That stirred up the community to numerous riots in multiple cities and eventually turned into ambushing officers. Because of that, police now were more on edge and would react rather than think when situations devolved. So now, you have cases of unarmed black men actually being gunned down and now the media gets to report the story they wanted to tell 8 years ago.

YES, there are instances of bad shoots, racially motivated situations or deaths resulting from lack of training...but these are in no way the norm nor do they happen at any rate close to what is inferred. Nevertheless, this does not justify the massive amounts of destruction seen during the riots in Baltimore, Ferguson, Baton Rouge, Minnesota, etc, etc. Recent independent studies show there is not an epidemic of racially-motivated shootings.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/white-cops-dont-commit-more-shootings/

A new study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences demolishes the Democratic narrative regarding race and police shootings, which holds that white officers are engaged in an epidemic of racially biased shootings of black men. It turns out that white officers are no more likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot black civilians. It is a racial group’s rate of violent crime that determines police shootings, not the race of the officer. The more frequently officers encounter violent suspects from any given racial group, the greater the chance that members of that racial group will be shot by a police officer. In fact, if there is a bias in police shootings after crime rates are taken into account, it is against white civilians, the study found.



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Fri 05/29/20 04:32 PM
I still believe most of the deaths we have seen over the yrs where wrong ...
the proof is right in your face ... these are bad cops that do nothing more but stroke their egos to feel almighty ... and who died and made them god ...

if the arrests came sooner and charges where brought for this case ... they might not have gotten so out of control ... and when the bad cops get away with their actions ...what do you want from those who have had their lives turned up side down by a loved one that where murdered and innocent... of some pitiful charges ...

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Sat 05/30/20 06:20 AM
Life has degenerated into hysteria for so many people these days. I don't mean just this situation, it has been building for some time. The hysterical seem to reinforce each other into even greater hysteria.

I have friends who have been into that for years. They do what is easy, they point fingers at everyone else and somehow elevate themselves. It's sad, but there is no talking to them...

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Sat 05/30/20 07:07 AM
There is a percentage of society that causes most of the problems and actually most of them are repetitive. These are the dregs the police and courts deal with on a day by day basis. If you are a law enforcement officer you deal with these people most everyday and when most of them are of a certain minority in your community, you start to make an association between that minority and crime. It becomes especially bad when you or a fellow officer is attacked or injured by someone in that minority. It makes you much more cautious and forces you to take more aggressive action. The unfortunate result of this are the members of that minority who are honest, good people get lumped in with the trash and treated as such. The larger the percentage of trash in that minority, the more of that minority that is going to be discriminated against by the police as well as the general public.

Do not confuse this as a race issue because you see the same situation in communities that have very few or no minorities. It is just some other demographic characteristic that identifies that group of trash people that the police and society in general discriminates against.

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Sat 05/30/20 08:07 PM
George Floyd was a Thug, he spent time in prison for armed robbery, he resisted arrest numerous times before they took him to the ground. Did the cop over do it? Yes. Did Floyd deserve to die? No. But this was never a black and white situation for all you racists out there trying to find anything they can to make an issue out of. This is authority verses Thug situation, that cop didn't care what color Floyd was. So how do people respond to this? Well why not go out and steal from some hard working people and burn some buildings to the ground in our neighborhood all while the cops stand by and watch without doing anything. I hope all you THUG SUPPORTERS out there are proud of yourselves, well us hard working tax payers pay for all your wrong doings. So many laws have been broken by the thugs and thug supporter but very few have been arrested even though it would be like shooting fish in a barrel to do so, where is justice when it is really needed?

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Sun 05/31/20 03:50 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Sun 05/31/20 03:55 AM
I still am feeling that there should be justice for killing a man that way ...
again ...he was hand cuffed already he did not put up a fight ... no matter what his crimes where in the past ...he should have never been killed like that ...just like the other man who was selling cigs on the corner he did not struggle to take them down and killing him for that ...what don't you get when their saying i can't breath...

but I will say dust as a good point and that is what i was thinking ...

the police know every time this happen the thugs destroy property in the neighborhood this is not the first time ... so when the peaceful protestors ...are being peaceful ... put the police around the neighborhood stores... so they can not be looting them ...this is a fact ever time some cop his brutally killed another ... why not protect the neighborhood also ... it is not the mayors fault this happens every time this should be part of the police job also to protect the stores... sure call in the national guard to help... for this if they do not have enough police to cover this ...in their district I believe in salutations not blame ... when it happens over an over same actions ... this part should be resolved some how for these city's ... to not have to wait for these store to rebuild if they can... I thought i heard again the police did not live in this district ... well if that is the case call all the districts to come in and help not to destroy the neighborhood ... with that defensive gear... might detour the looters ...

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Sun 05/31/20 04:24 AM
I read in our local newspaper that George Floyd was once a student at A&M Kingsville which is not too far from where I live. I agree that when something like this happens it gives good cops a bad namesad2 .

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Sun 05/31/20 07:10 AM
To the family of George Floyd you have my deepest sympathiessad2 brokenheart . I pray that true justice will be rendered and served to you:thumbsup: .

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Sun 05/31/20 08:38 AM
Edited by dust4fun on Sun 05/31/20 08:40 AM

To the family of George Floyd you have my deepest sympathiessad2 brokenheart . I pray that true justice will be rendered and served to you:thumbsup: .

George Flyod and his family don't deserve any respect whatsoever. If people commit crimes and assault officers they run the risk of being killed. If he would have obeyed the police none of this would have happened. That means building being destroyed, stores being looted, and understand there was people in many of those stores while they were being looted. The cost of all the law enforcement and everything that goes with it, and the closure of many businesses. What gives these protesters the right to gather while there are still restrictions in place for covid19 such as no gatherings of more than 10 people. How many people know what really happened? Most all of this has been propaganda set up by the media to fuel political views.

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Sun 05/31/20 08:44 AM

I read in our local newspaper that George Floyd was once a student at A&M Kingsville which is not too far from where I live. I agree that when something like this happens it gives good cops a bad namesad2 .

Did you also read about his extensive criminal record?

The 46-year-old had left behind his past in Houston after being released from prison stemming from a 2007 robbery.

He plead guilty to entering a woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records.

Floyd was sentenced to 10 months in jail for having less than one gram of cocaine in a December 2005 arrest.

He had previously been sentenced to eight months for the same offense, stemming from an October 2002 arrest.

Floyd was arrested in 2002 for criminal trespassing and served 30 days in jail
He had another stint for a theft in August 1998.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8366533/George-Floyd-moved-Minneapolis-start-new-life-released-prison-Texas.html

Rex's photo
Sun 05/31/20 08:49 AM
I see a lot of racists under this post...
Why are y'all shying away from the truth?
What Chauvin did was wrong...and in my own words he should be charged with first degree murder!

Larsson71's photo
Sun 05/31/20 08:52 AM
If the Police never did wrong, then people would trust them. Nobody ever made a song called "F**k the Fire Department" did they?

oldkid46's photo
Sun 05/31/20 09:04 AM

I see a lot of racists under this post...
Why are y'all shying away from the truth?
What Chauvin did was wrong...and in my own words he should be charged with first degree murder!
Just because we hate the violent, destructive so called "protests" does not mean we agree with what that officer did. A major part of the racial problem is the unwillingness to discuss and understand where the other side of the issue is. You are a young man without much experience yet and a whole life ahead of you. Become willing to be part of the solution and not part of the problem! Until you are receptive to having meaningful, open discussion, you will remain a part of the problem!!!!!

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Sun 05/31/20 12:02 PM
I've been in the midst of this and more for most of my life, one way and another. I've been fortunate not to have been in the midst of killings, but I have been chased by police with dogs, just for observing events, and I have been taken into custody (not arrested) for being young and in reach. I've had friends murdered by racists. I've seen police officers being abused and derided by the people they were there to help. I've seen them suffer intense frustration because some rich jerk decided to treat them as less than human.

What used to anger me, and now just makes me feel less hopeful all the time, is how so many people at all levels, really don't want to address the real problems at all.

Lots of people eager to label it, lots of people eager to decry it, lots of comments that I too have made, recognizing how difficult it all is to deal with.

But not enough actual effort to address any of the problems, especially not at the level most needed, the leadership of the country and states.

No one in any party has seriously proposed investing in the training and level of pay and support that the police need to be able to do a better job. This time too, I anticipate a nominal effort to discipline one or more officers, but the culture that led them to make the mistakes that cause this kind of tragedy will be left in place undisturbed.

We went through this in the sixties, too. Protests and anger at injustice, lectures from people who want the violence to go away, directed at the people who are rebelling, and a few gestures of righteousness. But the same attitude directed at police from the authorities above them as always. Praise when they do something heroic, righteous indignation when they blow things, but no follow up.

I've spent my life fixing things for my living. One thing that's obvious about machines, that people seem to be unwilling to accept about themselves, is that if you do NOTHING to repair what went wrong, it WILL go wrong again.

And another thing obvious with machines: maintenance is required. People know (at least most do) that if they change the oil in their car today, if they keep driving it, they'll have to change that oil out in the not too distant future again.

But they want repairs on humans, to be one-and-done-it. They want to pass one law to "fix" everything, and then they get mad when it turns out that the problem was more complex than that, and that more work is needed.


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Sun 05/31/20 01:01 PM
There is another 600 pound gorilla in the room that nobody seems worth mentioning: the introduction and utilization of Affirmative Action.

I'm not talking about the regular practice of race inclusion.

In 1984, there was a comedic movie brought out called Police Academy. In it, the leadership of the area decided to throw out the height, weight, physical conditioning and gender restrictions for acceptance into the academy to show how progressive they were. In it every form of human showed up and were eventually turned into police officers. During the movie, we were all shown how these "screw-ups" and "losers" could eventually pull their weight and saved the day when push came to shove. THIS was the beginning.

Yes, I understand that this was just a movie. Nevertheless, this in itself is the real underlying problem. You have people out in the field grossly out of shape or entirely undersized to be able to handle most violent criminals in a one-on-one, or even a two or three-on-one without having to resort to extreme levels of unnecessary violence. More so, it's just not having women on the force that is the issue. There are plenty of undersized, or overweight, men on the force who can't pull their own weight either.

https://youtu.be/Ko-ORAXkuN0

https://twitter.com/FreeRangeCritic/status/1233537021341323267

Both of these instances are recent where the officers just weren't able to handle the suspect without using a taser, shooting the suspect or even controlling them once they were handcuffed. Personally, I'd want all of my Police officers to look like Bubba Smith or Richard Kiel. They might not be pretty, but they sure could get a situation under control. Back before the Weather Underground and their ilk of the 60s made it acceptable to target police officers, you could have gotten away with having an all inclusive police force. Back then, the uniform got respect without having a linebacker fill it. Now, you need that linebacker out there to get the respect, whether it be through fear and intimidation or actual approbation. Either way, Sergeant Hooks and Officer Sweetchuck just ain't gonna get the job done today.




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Sun 05/31/20 04:01 PM
Police everywhere act on what they ALLOWED to get away with, it's that simple, they KILL because they CAN get away with it. If a cop was treated badly in school there is a greater possibility that he joined in order to be able to use FORCE as he sees fit!
If the others don't tell on him for whatever reason they are just as guilty as he is.

Think of it as the way the rules that get applied to marihuana smokers. You got caught they take whatever they can by law (your house, your car or other possessions to add to their ability to do MORE HARM. So they can buy ARMORED VEHICLES, etc but remember how much they keep fighting about BODY CAMS?

IT will NEVER STOP until cops start to go to prison just like the rest of the population! SAD but TRUE!

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