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Topic: Coronavirus - part 2
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Mon 07/05/21 10:33 AM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Mon 07/05/21 10:37 AM



Does it look like your country has a covid end game strategy in sight ? How do you feel about that ?




Getting a Large percentage of people vaccinated is the goal in USA.

Percentage is far from the goal. Covid- is still very active.


Dr Jha

Massachusettes

He was on tv news last week, talking about Covid-

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Mon 07/05/21 10:39 AM
Ireland is the only member state of the EU, that wasn't able to roll out the Green Vaccine Cert on July 1st whoa


For those, who don't know it, the Green Vaccine Cert allows fully vaccinated people to travel freely within the EU.

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Mon 07/05/21 07:48 PM
Edited by Blondey111 on Mon 07/05/21 07:51 PM


waving The UK government wants to end all legal requirements on restrictions from the 19th July, and move to personal responsibility, where for example, the wearing of a mask would be a personal choice. They inform us that we are to live with the Coronavirus as we live with the flu virus, the vaccinations providing the protection now and in the future.

However, not everyone eligible is yet fully vaccinated and the numbers of infections from the Delta variant first found in India are at present increasing very rapidly, mainly in those unvaccinated. We should hear more on their decision this week, but it looks very likely restrictions will soon be lifted in the UK. How foreign travel in to and out of the country will be affected is still unclear.
Hi Duttoneer waving yes it is looking like Boris is relying on vaccinations to open up England .. what he is overlooking is poorly controlled spread in other countries still represents a threat to the UK population .

Read this article today ....http://amp.abc.net.au/article/100258572 looks like UK will shortly trial a covid booster for vulnerable elderly . Sounds a little controversial while so many countries have poor access to 1st and second dose vaccinations . Will be interesting to see what unfolds .

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Mon 07/05/21 08:03 PM




Does it look like your country has a covid end game strategy in sight ? How do you feel about that ?




Getting a Large percentage of people vaccinated is the goal in USA.

Percentage is far from the goal. Covid- is still very active.


Dr Jha

Massachusettes

He was on tv news last week, talking about Covid-

Hi Toody waving the stats are a little confusing for the States .., the figure I saw quoted 67% have had at least one covid shot but didn’t say how many of that number needed a second dose .

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Mon 07/05/21 08:12 PM

Ireland is the only member state of the EU, that wasn't able to roll out the Green Vaccine Cert on July 1st whoa


For those, who don't know it, the Green Vaccine Cert allows fully vaccinated people to travel freely within the EU.
Hi Larsi waving was that delay due to vaccination rates ??

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Mon 07/05/21 08:39 PM

personal responsibility

Yeah, that's pretty much how its been around here for the last few months.

I'm still on the fence about getting the shots. I'm leaning towards just doing it and getting it out of the way. Its not that I am against being vaccinated, its about the fact there are so many vaccinatioons and so many strains.
I'm wondering if I get a cuurent vaccination it could make me have to get a series of additional vaccinations for all the different formulas to cover each strain. But, up till I had an adverse reaction, I got the flu shot each year.
I didn't rush out to get a bird flu shot or a swine flu shot.

Frankly, I don't know why they don't work on a vaccine which covers all virus infections? Y'know, one shot and yer covered for life. Someone should work on THAT.
Hi Tom waving .. although not quite what you want lol ....it may interest you to know that the mRNA vaccine platform is now being trialled against other viral infections such as HIV and influenza .

Consent to have a covid vaccine needs to be given for each dose received . You always have the right to decline future vaccines .

The delta variant seems to be causing the most global concern at the moment . Latest study from
Israel claims Pfizer vaccine 70% effective against Delta variant .

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/health/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-70-effective-against-delta-variant-study/2294355

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Thu 07/08/21 12:40 PM
http://techstartups.com/2021/06/30/data-public-health-england-shows-vaccinated-people-died-delta-variant-uk-unvaccinated-death-rate-8-45-times-higher-vaccinated/

This, is but one news article on health research
about the delta variant. It shows, that the delta
variant has a considerably higher death rate among
the fully vaccinated, than it does the unvaccinated.
The death rate for the vaxxed, is above 1%.
The death rate for the unvaxxed, is 0.08%.

However, the infection rate is considerably higher
among the unvaxxed. Who, ironically, are much less
likely to die from it.

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Thu 07/08/21 01:38 PM


personal responsibility

Yeah, that's pretty much how its been around here for the last few months.

I'm still on the fence about getting the shots. I'm leaning towards just doing it and getting it out of the way. Its not that I am against being vaccinated, its about the fact there are so many vaccinatioons and so many strains.
I'm wondering if I get a cuurent vaccination it could make me have to get a series of additional vaccinations for all the different formulas to cover each strain. But, up till I had an adverse reaction, I got the flu shot each year.
I didn't rush out to get a bird flu shot or a swine flu shot.

Frankly, I don't know why they don't work on a vaccine which covers all virus infections? Y'know, one shot and yer covered for life. Someone should work on THAT.
Hi Tom waving .. although not quite what you want lol ....it may interest you to know that the mRNA vaccine platform is now being trialled against other viral infections such as HIV and influenza .

Consent to have a covid vaccine needs to be given for each dose received . You always have the right to decline future vaccines .

The delta variant seems to be causing the most global concern at the moment . Latest study from
Israel claims Pfizer vaccine 70% effective against Delta variant .

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/health/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-70-effective-against-delta-variant-study/2294355

I saw my dr yesterday and I was pretty dissapointed with his attitude toward the whole COVID pandemic. He didn't want to (or couldn't) answer even the simplest questions, hell y'all do better than him!

I can go basically right up the street to the local hospital and get one formula, go to walmart and get another, med stop and get a choice and its all free.
Something just doesn't feel right about the whole ordeal.

I'm not 'against' being vaccinated, if they can all get aligned but that doesn't seem to be happening.
I am not a socialite, I stay home, by myself most of the time. I put under 30 miles on my truck last month.
I think I'm gunna hold off a bit longer. My labs were really good this time and no new or stronger meds needed to be prescribed so my health is stable right now (even if it does suk). At least I'm not getting worse at the moment.
The lab tech notated that I do not have the Covid in my results (I saw it written on the paper). So, right now, I'm clear.

The whole ordeal makes me think insane people are running the show!
I'ma gunna wait...

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Thu 07/08/21 06:33 PM
Edited by Toodygirl5 on Thu 07/08/21 06:36 PM
Missouri is in bad shape with the Virus, hospitals are filling up.

News advised people to cancel any plans to Ozarks this summer.

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Thu 07/08/21 06:34 PM



Interesting information!

Many States are giving many incentives to those who get vaccinated, including being entered in the lottery.

Seems to be working on Only a small percentage of people to say, Yes I'll get the vaccine.

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Thu 07/15/21 03:12 AM
Big Pharma doesn't give up easily: I got an invitation for the vaccination, 3rd time!
This time it was an invitation for people that haven't had the poison yet. So they know exactly who has had the stuff and who hasn't.
This time it said which poison I would get: Pfizer or Moderna.
I don't want it.
And I'm getting annoyed to get harassed again.

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Sat 07/17/21 04:03 PM
Protests in Greece, England, Ireland, Australia and today Paris. Have you seen anything in the media?
Police violence, disgusting!

But it's a good thing these protests are happening. People are fed up. There's only so long and so often you can bully people until they reached the limit.
Even the sweetest animal that gets pushed too much too often will lash out.

And I am happy to know that people haven't gone numb and dumb. Things are moving and the movement of the people that don't want to be forced in a straight-jacket is very much alive!
Very important as this is about our future, one of Love & Light, not the one the masses are being pushed towards.
We will get there. Light always wins!
:heart: :heart: :heart:

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Sat 07/17/21 06:26 PM

Protests in Greece, England, Ireland, Australia and today Paris. Have you seen anything in the media?
Police violence, disgusting!

But it's a good thing these protests are happening. People are fed up. There's only so long and so often you can bully people until they reached the limit.
Even the sweetest animal that gets pushed too much too often will lash out.

And I am happy to know that people haven't gone numb and dumb. Things are moving and the movement of the people that don't want to be forced in a straight-jacket is very much alive!
Very important as this is about our future, one of Love & Light, not the one the masses are being pushed towards.
We will get there. Light always wins!
:heart: :heart: :heart:
I disagree covid is strong her than “light” and :heart: :heart: :heart: The experts say a reality check is needed and I support that view .

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/300360353/covid19-in-northern-hemispheres-summer-of-freedom-disease-experts-warn-the-world-needs-a-reality-check

As far as protests in Europe .. changes are underway . Although vaccination is not yet a mandate I government will favour those who are vaccinated . For those not vaccinated there will be increasing disadvantage . If you consider your personal situation crystal .. if council requires that to be eligible for state home funding covid vaccination is required... would you jeopardise having a roof over your head ?? You may feel protesters have power but they are not the ones controlling money and resources . Selfish behaviour will not being the light you talk about . Collective goodwill and being considerate of global wellbeing may be one of the few realistic solutions we have .

Do you have any links about the number of protesters ??? Just how strong is that voice ???

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/300360316/covid19-how-vaccinesceptic-france-and-germany-came-to-support-nearmandates

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Sat 07/17/21 06:28 PM
http://www.sciencefocus.com/news/lambda-variant/amp/

Lambada strain From Peru now in UK and being watched as a variant of concern .

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Sat 07/17/21 06:34 PM
Meanwhile in “ fortress New Zealand” [i love it lol] we still have no community spread of covid .

“Two weeks ago the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet released a survey showing that more than half the country is happy to keep the borders to New Zealand shut, while over 90 per cent thought that life was not going to go back to the way things were pre-Covid.

The research, dated June 16, said its goal was to “understand how to keep New Zealanders engaged with the collective mission – unite against Covid-19.”

“It’s good news the public recognise that New Zealand is entering a new phase and the vaccine will not be a silver bullet when it comes to moving on from the pandemic,” DPMC deputy chief executive Cheryl Barnes said in a statement accompanying the release of the research.

Job done then. The public doesn’t expect things to go back to normal and more than half are happy with fortress New Zealand. Let’s keep things as they are.‘




http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/125785444/there-is-still-plenty-of-covid-pain-to-come


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Sun 07/18/21 02:41 AM


Protests in Greece, England, Ireland, Australia and today Paris. Have you seen anything in the media?
Police violence, disgusting!

But it's a good thing these protests are happening. People are fed up. There's only so long and so often you can bully people until they reached the limit.
Even the sweetest animal that gets pushed too much too often will lash out.

And I am happy to know that people haven't gone numb and dumb. Things are moving and the movement of the people that don't want to be forced in a straight-jacket is very much alive!
Very important as this is about our future, one of Love & Light, not the one the masses are being pushed towards.
We will get there. Light always wins!
:heart: :heart: :heart:
I disagree covid is strong her than “light” and :heart: :heart: :heart: The experts say a reality check is needed and I support that view .

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/300360353/covid19-in-northern-hemispheres-summer-of-freedom-disease-experts-warn-the-world-needs-a-reality-check

As far as protests in Europe .. changes are underway . Although vaccination is not yet a mandate I government will favour those who are vaccinated . For those not vaccinated there will be increasing disadvantage . If you consider your personal situation crystal .. if council requires that to be eligible for state home funding covid vaccination is required... would you jeopardise having a roof over your head ?? You may feel protesters have power but they are not the ones controlling money and resources . Selfish behaviour will not being the light you talk about . Collective goodwill and being considerate of global wellbeing may be one of the few realistic solutions we have .

Do you have any links about the number of protesters ??? Just how strong is that voice ???

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/300360316/covid19-how-vaccinesceptic-france-and-germany-came-to-support-nearmandates


What you call experts are not experts, they're people you follow and believe.
I don't.
Saying a reality check is needed... I believe that too, but in another way, not the way you mean.

And to say that is not factual, it's an opinion based on what they believe in. Which is not what I believe in.
Mormons may also feel the rest of the world needs a reality check. Are they experts? Nope. Just people with a certain view on life and of what's healthy. It's an opinion, nothing more.

You like to throw stuff around like "expert". It's meaningless. You follow the exact path that these creeps behind the limelight have set out: leading humanity back into darkness for no other reason that they hold their power and billions.
I don't.
I think for myself. I do not want to lose my sovereignty and become their slave and spread their propaganda for them.
I want to head towards the future mankind was meant for: one of love, oneness, togetherness, kindness, sister and brotherhood.
Away with the patriarchal that you are latching on to.
We all make our choices. And clearly you're okay with a society where people are oppressed, coerced, forced to do things or else...
I'm not okay with that.

And if you -and these so called experts you refer to- were so certain they were doing the right thing... why do they have to twist and turn everything, hide reality from the world by censure in the news, media, social media?
If you know that you're coming from the heart, from love, -like me and many like me- you don't feel you have to hide anything.
Then people can make real good choices for themselves without coercion. The truth doesn't need coercion.

You choose that anyway, the old.
No skin of my nose.
I choose love, and the new.
The Light will prevail. It always does. It is Law. Divine Law. Some may call it God.
The Light will prevail.
:heart:

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Sun 07/18/21 05:04 AM
Edited by Blondey111 on Sun 07/18/21 05:20 AM



Protests in Greece, England, Ireland, Australia and today Paris. Have you seen anything in the media?
Police violence, disgusting!

But it's a good thing these protests are happening. People are fed up. There's only so long and so often you can bully people until they reached the limit.
Even the sweetest animal that gets pushed too much too often will lash out.

And I am happy to know that people haven't gone numb and dumb. Things are moving and the movement of the people that don't want to be forced in a straight-jacket is very much alive!
Very important as this is about our future, one of Love & Light, not the one the masses are being pushed towards.
We will get there. Light always wins!
:heart: :heart: :heart:
I disagree covid is strong her than “light” and :heart: :heart: :heart: The experts say a reality check is needed and I support that view .

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/300360353/covid19-in-northern-hemispheres-summer-of-freedom-disease-experts-warn-the-world-needs-a-reality-check

As far as protests in Europe .. changes are underway . Although vaccination is not yet a mandate I government will favour those who are vaccinated . For those not vaccinated there will be increasing disadvantage . If you consider your personal situation crystal .. if council requires that to be eligible for state home funding covid vaccination is required... would you jeopardise having a roof over your head ?? You may feel protesters have power but they are not the ones controlling money and resources . Selfish behaviour will not being the light you talk about . Collective goodwill and being considerate of global wellbeing may be one of the few realistic solutions we have .

Do you have any links about the number of protesters ??? Just how strong is that voice ???

http://i.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/300360316/covid19-how-vaccinesceptic-france-and-germany-came-to-support-nearmandates


What you call experts are not experts, they're people you follow and believe.
I don't.
Saying a reality check is needed... I believe that too, but in another way, not the way you mean.

And to say that is not factual, it's an opinion based on what they believe in. Which is not what I believe in.
Mormons may also feel the rest of the world needs a reality check. Are they experts? Nope. Just people with a certain view on life and of what's healthy. It's an opinion, nothing more.

You like to throw stuff around like "expert". It's meaningless. You follow the exact path that these creeps behind the limelight have set out: leading humanity back into darkness for no other reason that they hold their power and billions.
I don't.
I think for myself. I do not want to lose my sovereignty and become their slave and spread their propaganda for them.
I want to head towards the future mankind was meant for: one of love, oneness, togetherness, kindness, sister and brotherhood.
Away with the patriarchal that you are latching on to.
We all make our choices. And clearly you're okay with a society where people are oppressed, coerced, forced to do things or else...
I'm not okay with that.

And if you -and these so called experts you refer to- were so certain they were doing the right thing... why do they have to twist and turn everything, hide reality from the world by censure in the news, media, social media?
If you know that you're coming from the heart, from love, -like me and many like me- you don't feel you have to hide anything.
Then people can make real good choices for themselves without coercion. The truth doesn't need coercion.

You choose that anyway, the old.
No skin of my nose.
I choose love, and the new.
The Light will prevail. It always does. It is Law. Divine Law. Some may call it God.
The Light will prevail.
:heart:

crystal .. I am wondering If you understand the difference between sharing knowledge or information about a topic versus expressing a “personal “ opinion about a topic ? I certainly did not expressed my beliefs about patriarchy or oppression:wink:

If you choose not to acknowledge medical or scientific expertise when it comes to pandemic management
that is completely your choice bigsmile waving

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Mon 07/19/21 01:23 AM
http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300358345/coronavirus-we-need-to-talk-about-the-delta-variant

New study sheds light on just how infectious delta variant is compared with earlier strains .....


“the incubation period – the time between the person being exposed to Covid-19 and testing positive for the virus – has shortened. People with delta tested positive on average around 3.7 days after exposure compared to around six days with the earlier variants.”

”viral load is roughly 1000 times higher than people infected with the earlier virus variants. That’s strong evidence that delta has a much faster replication rate in the early stages of infection and suggests people will be shedding more virus, which is supported by the higher infectiousness we’re witnessing.”

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Mon 07/19/21 06:38 AM

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300358345/coronavirus-we-need-to-talk-about-the-delta-variant

New study sheds light on just how infectious delta variant is compared with earlier strains .....



Thanks for the alert.

(Its time to borrow cash for a second fridge. Maybe I won't have to repay)

Calle's photo
Tue 07/20/21 12:30 AM
Hello There
The stats here are says that the gen-shots are not doing anything good...
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/worrying-me-quite-bit-mrna-vaccine-inventor-shares-viral-thread-showing-covid-surge-most

To sum up the article, most spread in the most "vaccinated" countrys...


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