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Topic: Chivalry
Coldersky's photo
Tue 07/13/21 10:30 AM
It's all good old fashioned manners,
And believe it or not we all say and do these things DAILY PLEASE Thanks. Excuse me, I'll get that, Howdy,Hey, Hi,How you doing, Hows your day going, Can I help you, esp if you work in Customer service, it's all in the way we were brought up, Chivalry is alive and well I love it without thinking about it, it like kissing my man just comes naturally,Coldersky Minus the halo,🤠🖐:punch:

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Tue 07/13/21 10:37 AM
My father always told me the reason you open the door for someone and allow them to go through first, is because you never know what's on the other side of that door, there could be a killer over there.

I open the door for people because I don't think there is enough kindness in the world, and if I give a little maybe I'll start getting some back. But I'd be lying if I said what my father said wasn't always in the back of my mind.

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Tue 07/13/21 04:58 PM
David .. that is very practical lol .. but it makes me feel like chivalry just went out the door biggrin waving

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Tue 07/13/21 06:20 PM




If you're familiar with Chivalric code,
then you might have an inkling as to what
genuine Chivalry was all about.


What many modern era people believe to be Chivalry,
is actually linked more to the Age of Cavaliers,
and has pretty much nothing to do with Chivalry.


Thanks to the "artistic liberties" of romance novelists
of the 1700s and 1800s. Bastards. rant

Exactly. Those "chivalrous " knights were actually cutthroat hooligans. Second or third sons of noblemen who were looking to find their way in the world. Due to laws of primogeniture, only first sons inherited.

The knights became such a problem that they were part of the reason for the first crusade. The Pope saw an excellent way to get rid of them.

Very romantic. 🤣🤣🤣

I don't know what history book you've been reading?
The Pope was very happy with the Templars. It wasn't until the Templars fell out with the French king as they'd lent him huge amounts of money that he'd squandered, that things went wrong. The king FORCED the Pope to do something about the Templars and that's how they got slaughtered and tortured while they had done NOTHING wrong whatsoever.
So as per usual the whole onslaught in southern France had to do with money and an arrogant SOB --> the French king.

Also, Templars were monks. And not all knights were Templars. The Templars were mostly French. And they went on crusades to protect and expand Christendom. If you consider that "cutthroat hooligans"...

Regular knights weren't "hooligans" either and most had lands and property.

As for chivalry... whatever it may have been yonks ago, does it really matter? It's more important what it evolved into through the centuries which is what we think of now in this day and age.
We also don't base our views of for instance 'marriage' and 'justice' and 'romantic partners' on what it used to be almost a thousands years ago but on what it evolved into.



My thesis for my Master's degree was an analysis of the reasons for the first crusade. I have a fair amount of knowledge on this subject.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: That would be an interesting thesis to read.

ivegotthegirth's photo
Tue 07/13/21 07:18 PM





If you're familiar with Chivalric code,
then you might have an inkling as to what
genuine Chivalry was all about.


What many modern era people believe to be Chivalry,
is actually linked more to the Age of Cavaliers,
and has pretty much nothing to do with Chivalry.


Thanks to the "artistic liberties" of romance novelists
of the 1700s and 1800s. Bastards. rant

Exactly. Those "chivalrous " knights were actually cutthroat hooligans. Second or third sons of noblemen who were looking to find their way in the world. Due to laws of primogeniture, only first sons inherited.

The knights became such a problem that they were part of the reason for the first crusade. The Pope saw an excellent way to get rid of them.

Very romantic. 🤣🤣🤣

I don't know what history book you've been reading?
The Pope was very happy with the Templars. It wasn't until the Templars fell out with the French king as they'd lent him huge amounts of money that he'd squandered, that things went wrong. The king FORCED the Pope to do something about the Templars and that's how they got slaughtered and tortured while they had done NOTHING wrong whatsoever.
So as per usual the whole onslaught in southern France had to do with money and an arrogant SOB --> the French king.

Also, Templars were monks. And not all knights were Templars. The Templars were mostly French. And they went on crusades to protect and expand Christendom. If you consider that "cutthroat hooligans"...

Regular knights weren't "hooligans" either and most had lands and property.

As for chivalry... whatever it may have been yonks ago, does it really matter? It's more important what it evolved into through the centuries which is what we think of now in this day and age.
We also don't base our views of for instance 'marriage' and 'justice' and 'romantic partners' on what it used to be almost a thousands years ago but on what it evolved into.



My thesis for my Master's degree was an analysis of the reasons for the first crusade. I have a fair amount of knowledge on this subject.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: That would be an interesting thesis to read.



Well maybe we could change the wordage to "social graces", something many if not most are very lacking these days.

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Fri 07/16/21 03:53 AM





If you're familiar with Chivalric code,
then you might have an inkling as to what
genuine Chivalry was all about.


What many modern era people believe to be Chivalry,
is actually linked more to the Age of Cavaliers,
and has pretty much nothing to do with Chivalry.


Thanks to the "artistic liberties" of romance novelists
of the 1700s and 1800s. Bastards. rant

Exactly. Those "chivalrous " knights were actually cutthroat hooligans. Second or third sons of noblemen who were looking to find their way in the world. Due to laws of primogeniture, only first sons inherited.

The knights became such a problem that they were part of the reason for the first crusade. The Pope saw an excellent way to get rid of them.

Very romantic. 🤣🤣🤣

I don't know what history book you've been reading?
The Pope was very happy with the Templars. It wasn't until the Templars fell out with the French king as they'd lent him huge amounts of money that he'd squandered, that things went wrong. The king FORCED the Pope to do something about the Templars and that's how they got slaughtered and tortured while they had done NOTHING wrong whatsoever.
So as per usual the whole onslaught in southern France had to do with money and an arrogant SOB --> the French king.

Also, Templars were monks. And not all knights were Templars. The Templars were mostly French. And they went on crusades to protect and expand Christendom. If you consider that "cutthroat hooligans"...

Regular knights weren't "hooligans" either and most had lands and property.

As for chivalry... whatever it may have been yonks ago, does it really matter? It's more important what it evolved into through the centuries which is what we think of now in this day and age.
We also don't base our views of for instance 'marriage' and 'justice' and 'romantic partners' on what it used to be almost a thousands years ago but on what it evolved into.



My thesis for my Master's degree was an analysis of the reasons for the first crusade. I have a fair amount of knowledge on this subject.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: That would be an interesting thesis to read.



More specifically it focused on Pope Urban II and his reasons for calling The Coucil of Clermont and its effect on the call to arms.

I found the topic fascinating, but others might find it a bit dry... laugh

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Fri 07/23/21 08:12 PM
I have practiced chivalry, it was not called that when I was growing up, you just treated a lady right. Sadly I think its pretty much died now. Not that it has dome me any good anyway!

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Sat 07/24/21 02:07 AM

I have practiced chivalry, it was not called that when I was growing up, you just treated a lady right. Sadly I think its pretty much died now. Not that it has dome me any good anyway!


Well, you don't do that to get something, it's something that comes from the inside, naturally.
If a woman has a weird reaction to it you know she's not the right woman for you. For women it's the same, but the other way round.

In essence it's a give and receive scenario, both are best when done naturally and not an act.
If a man can't give, never mind. For a man it could be, if a woman cannot receive then never mind.

Coldersky's photo
Sun 07/25/21 12:51 PM
I pick my battles if theres a older GENTLEMAN behind me I say (age befor beauty) I get alot of snickers daily I clooned that saying chivalry hangs out with me daily,,,

Slim gym 's photo
Sun 07/25/21 02:03 PM
I to pick my battles ... if there is an older woman behind me i say youth before good looks ...

Coldersky's photo
Sun 07/25/21 08:28 PM
I to pick my battles ... if there is an older woman behind me i say youth before good looks ...

I like that Slim Pickins I hope you get some snickers to lol oh you,:heart_eyes:

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