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Topic: Health care system in the world
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Sun 12/12/21 02:19 AM
I'm curious how it is looking health care in your country?
What you received if you are working and what if not?

delightfulillusion's photo
Sun 12/12/21 02:37 AM
In UK we have NHS - National Health Service which provides health care for all UK citizens based on their need rather than their ability to pay for it including free prescriptions (in Scotland). It is funded through general taxation.

I don’t work (retired 9 yrs ago) so no longer pay any taxes but still receive medical care if/when I require it.


Slim gym 's photo
Sun 12/12/21 02:39 AM
We have the best Healthcare system in the world . We also have to pay higher taxes to maintain the system .... but it's definitely worth it .. also , like every where , I am guessing, the more money you make the more taxes you pay..... so healthcare is available to all!!
We also have private insurance to cover services not covered by the Government plan ....
all in all.... I think we are pretty much good to go !!!

delightfulillusion's photo
Sun 12/12/21 02:52 AM
Here is a table of Countries With The Best Health Care Systems 2021

http://ceoworld.biz/2021/04/27/revealed-countries-with-the-best-health-care-systems-2021/

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Sun 12/12/21 02:56 AM
In UK we have NHS - National Health Service which provides health care for all UK citizens based on their need rather than their ability to pay for it including free prescriptions (in Scotland). It is funded through general taxation.

I don’t work (retired 9 yrs ago) so no longer pay any taxes but still receive medical care if/when I require it.

Hi Delightfulillusion,

Thank you so much.
How long do you have to wait for appointment to the specialist?


SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Sun 12/12/21 02:56 AM
Everyone here has basic healthcare. So this covers things like GP, hospital etc.
You can choose to have additional coverage packages that you then pay extra for. For instance for dental care, but also to have more costs covered that aren't in basic.

I have rather extensive additional that covers quite a lot of dental, but also alternative medicine, more physio than basic covers etc.

It is not related to whether you work or not.
We do pay a monthly fee and there is an annual (I think what's called) deductible. That's for us. Refugees get is almost free.

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Sun 12/12/21 03:00 AM
Here is a table of Countries With The Best Health Care Systems 2021

http://ceoworld.biz/2021/04/27/revealed-countries-with-the-best-health-care-systems-2021/

Thank you so much.:rose:
The comparing is fine to read how is rating.
The best to find the true is by talking to people that used this system care in their own countries.

Slim gym 's photo
Sun 12/12/21 03:01 AM

Here is a table of Countries With The Best Health Care Systems 2021

http://ceoworld.biz/2021/04/27/revealed-countries-with-the-best-health-care-systems-2021/



Thanks for my Sunday morning funnies ...that article was a hoot .....inaccurately accurate!!!!

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Sun 12/12/21 03:05 AM
We have the best Healthcare system in the world . We also have to pay higher taxes to maintain the system .... but it's definitely worth it .. also , like every where , I am guessing, the more money you make the more taxes you pay..... so healthcare is available to all!!
We also have private insurance to cover services not covered by the Government plan ....
all in all.... I think we are pretty much good to go !!!

Hi Slim gym,

I know that you the best health system on the world.
I read many articles and information about new technology which is provided in US.

I'm very curious how long do you have to wait for your appointment to the specialist?

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Sun 12/12/21 03:14 AM

We have the best Healthcare system in the world . We also have to pay higher taxes to maintain the system .... but it's definitely worth it .. also , like every where , I am guessing, the more money you make the more taxes you pay..... so healthcare is available to all!!
We also have private insurance to cover services not covered by the Government plan ....
all in all.... I think we are pretty much good to go !!!

Hi Slim gym,

I know that you the best health system on the world.
I read many articles and information about new technology which is provided in US.

I'm very curious how long do you have to wait for your appointment to the specialist?


The US a good healthcare system??? Wow...where did you get that info...
There's a difference between new technology and having a good healthcare system.

Also, Slim is in Canada.

delightfulillusion's photo
Sun 12/12/21 03:33 AM

In UK we have NHS - National Health Service which provides health care for all UK citizens based on their need rather than their ability to pay for it including free prescriptions (in Scotland). It is funded through general taxation.

I don’t work (retired 9 yrs ago) so no longer pay any taxes but still receive medical care if/when I require it.

Hi Delightfulillusion,

Thank you so much.
How long do you have to wait for appointment to the specialist?


Well that rather depends on what your problem is and how many people are needing to see that specialist.

I’ve had 4 operations on my ear and only had to wait less than a month to see the specialist but had to wait a couple of months to see an orthopaedic surgeon.

Rock's photo
Sun 12/12/21 06:48 AM
I'll generously rate U.S. healthcare as
"average".

We do have some outstanding practitioners.
However, the litigious nature of American
society, and a handful of incredibly
stupid regulations, make it an
occasional nightmare.

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Sun 12/12/21 07:48 AM
The US a good healthcare system??? Wow...where did you get that info...
There's a difference between new technology and having a good healthcare system.

Also, Slim is in Canada.

The new technology is used there and from gather dates AI can now detect breast cancer better that doctors, and this is much more examples.

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Sun 12/12/21 07:59 AM
The US a good healthcare system??? Wow...where did you get that info...
There's a difference between new technology and having a good healthcare system.

Also, Slim is in Canada.

Hi Sparkling Cristal,

The Apple watch is used when somebody need help.
The 3D printers will be using also soon.

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Sun 12/12/21 08:29 AM

The US a good healthcare system??? Wow...where did you get that info...
There's a difference between new technology and having a good healthcare system.

Also, Slim is in Canada.

The new technology is used there and from gather dates AI can now detect breast cancer better that doctors, and this is much more examples.

Wonderful... have you seen The Matrix? Terminator?

And again, doing all that stuff that can in actual fact get totally out of hand and ruin us, says nothing about having a good healthcare system. Nor that the doctors are any good.
I clearly recall from when my daughter lived in the US they prescribe antibiotics for anything and everything. Which is yet another risk for mankind worldwide as it could mean that when we need antibiotics for something serious it isn't going to work anymore.
We should use antibiotics as little as possible, because of future risk of not having a working medicine anymore, but also because it it very damaging to your body. Basically you should also take probiotics, possibly after every antibiotic taking.

And that's just one example.
Also, alternative medicine and therapy is not wide-spread in the US. Likely because Big Pharma is so big over there. And not to knock anyone, but what I've come to notice is that many Americans are very poorly educated on proper food. Things that over here a 5 yr old knows is stuff many adult American don't know.
Big Pharma won't mind as high numbers of cardiovascular disease and diabetes makes them billions each year.

In any case, don't put your focus on what is made technologically but find out how the healthcare system works. These are 2 different things entirely.

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Sun 12/12/21 09:23 AM
Wonderful... have you seen The Matrix? Terminator?

And again, doing all that stuff that can in actual fact get totally out of hand and ruin us, says nothing about having a good healthcare system. Nor that the doctors are any good.
I clearly recall from when my daughter lived in the US they prescribe antibiotics for anything and everything. Which is yet another risk for mankind worldwide as it could mean that when we need antibiotics for something serious it isn't going to work anymore.
We should use antibiotics as little as possible, because of future risk of not having a working medicine anymore, but also because it it very damaging to your body. Basically you should also take probiotics, possibly after every antibiotic taking.

And that's just one example.
Also, alternative medicine and therapy is not wide-spread in the US. Likely because Big Pharma is so big over there. And not to knock anyone, but what I've come to notice is that many Americans are very poorly educated on proper food. Things that over here a 5 yr old knows is stuff many adult American don't know.
Big Pharma won't mind as high numbers of cardiovascular disease and diabetes makes them billions each year.

In any case, don't put your focus on what is made technologically but find out how the healthcare system works. These are 2 different things entirely.

I saw that you are living in the Netherlands, if you can compare the health care which you received there and health care which received your daughter in US, considering all the services and methods which are used by doctors and also are used in alternative medicine, which system is providing more for citizens and which is on the higher level for you?

SparklingCrystal πŸ’–πŸ’Ž's photo
Sun 12/12/21 10:56 AM

Wonderful... have you seen The Matrix? Terminator?

And again, doing all that stuff that can in actual fact get totally out of hand and ruin us, says nothing about having a good healthcare system. Nor that the doctors are any good.
I clearly recall from when my daughter lived in the US they prescribe antibiotics for anything and everything. Which is yet another risk for mankind worldwide as it could mean that when we need antibiotics for something serious it isn't going to work anymore.
We should use antibiotics as little as possible, because of future risk of not having a working medicine anymore, but also because it it very damaging to your body. Basically you should also take probiotics, possibly after every antibiotic taking.

And that's just one example.
Also, alternative medicine and therapy is not wide-spread in the US. Likely because Big Pharma is so big over there. And not to knock anyone, but what I've come to notice is that many Americans are very poorly educated on proper food. Things that over here a 5 yr old knows is stuff many adult American don't know.
Big Pharma won't mind as high numbers of cardiovascular disease and diabetes makes them billions each year.

In any case, don't put your focus on what is made technologically but find out how the healthcare system works. These are 2 different things entirely.

I saw that you are living in the Netherlands, if you can compare the health care which you received there and health care which received your daughter in US, considering all the services and methods which are used by doctors and also are used in alternative medicine, which system is providing more for citizens and which is on the higher level for you?

That's easy: The Dutch healthcare system.

Sheryll Chanoine's photo
Mon 12/13/21 01:16 AM
looking health

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Mon 12/13/21 03:07 AM
I'll generously rate U.S. healthcare as
"average".

We do have some outstanding practitioners.
However, the litigious nature of American
society, and a handful of incredibly
stupid regulations, make it an
occasional nightmare.

Hi Rock Gnome,

May I ask you about one example why it is night mare?

Is it happening in the U.S., if somebody is in the hospital, to have to worry that if don't pay extra money to nurse or doctor they will not care about him like they normally should?

I mean bribe them..
In the Poland it is necessary to have hospital care.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 12/13/21 09:52 AM
The entire health/medical industry in the US is based on money.
Many people choose to have careers in the health professions because it is lucrative.

In most cases, tips and bribes do not influence the quality of health care you get but which insurance you have does. I'm sure there are individuals who do require a tip/bribe to give good healthcare but overall, not common.

In the states, an emergency room must treat everyone requesting medical assistance. ERs are often plagued with long wait times and tired staff.
This is because many people will go to the ER for care which is not actually an Emergency. Often, priority is given to actual emergency patients over say a toothache or a small cut on a finger.
This effects public perception of emergency room care.

Many ailments people bring to an ER are best cared for by their personal care provider.
Personal care providers are 'your' doctor & staff who are familiar with your specific health condition. PCPs usually see you by appointment and getting an appointment can sometimes require a long wait time.

Specialists provide care for specific health conditions. Your personal care provider usually has general overall health training and may or may not practice a specialty. When you need a specialist, your pcp will recommend you see a specialist who has experience with conditions common to yours. Specialists are often more costly than pcp. Some insurances cover certain specialist services but not others.

All materials used in health care, from band-aids to special machines cost more. This makes healthcare expensive, especially if you have no insurance.

Rx (prescription drugs) can also be expensive and difficult to find. Many insurance companies provide RX coverage but only for certain drugs. You often must co-pay part of the Rx costs yourself and all of the Rx costs if the insurance company doesn't cover that Rx. Sometimes, drug companies offer assistance with needed Rx and will work with you on the costs to you.

Some of the problems with US health care:
- over crowding in certain areas which push care visits to a longer wait time to be seen.
- Heavy patient load which causes doctors not to know you and your health concerns readily. Doctors often need to review your case history before they see you and may or may not remember you from the last time you visited.
- High costs. Not only for medical services and supplies but the insurance coverage premiums and co-pays.
- Drs who fail to 'listen' to their patients. Many drs listen to enough to make a guess as to the condition and ignore the details you provide. This cause incorrect diagnosis, incorrect treatment plans and ineffective Rx prescriptions. This is often accompanied with no proper or ineffective follow-up. So sure they 'did it right' they fail to consider the possibility they made a wrong diagnosis. This has a lot to do with the doctor's pride and image of self. Which is elevated by their extremely high salaries and influence.
- Medical personnel who chose the field for the wrong reason. In it for the money more than helping their fellow man. This results in forced compliance instead of wilful compliance. They fear 'breaking the rules and being sued' more than making patients' health worse.

Overall, the US health care system is driven by money(wealth) and power(influence).

How many Rx have you been prescribed which do not have the promised results?
How many cause side effects which require even more Rx to counter?
How many times has your doctor actually listened to you and asked you specific questions keyed to what you said?
How many doctors have told you they have no idea what is wrong with you but they will send you to someone who might?
How many times have you done the tests the doctor wants only to find out they now need you to do even more tests because the ones you did provided results which didn't align with their diagnosis?
What is the first thing an emergency room or a new doctor's office asks you for...Your insurance!
Try telling them you have no insurance and see what they do and how you get treated.

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