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Topic: Are you a Left Handed Witch or a Right Handed Witch
GeminiGoddess's photo
Sat 01/05/08 04:50 PM
If you are a true practing Witch, Wiccan, Pagan, what ever you would like to call yourself, I have a question for you.
Are you a Left Handed Witch or a Right Handed Witch, and what does it mean?
Yes a Triva ? I just wnat to see how many know..:smile:

scttrbrain's photo
Sat 01/05/08 04:52 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Sat 01/05/08 04:52 PM
I'm a right handed bich that used to be left handed. OH!!! You said witch. Lol

Kat

Impala13's photo
Sat 01/05/08 04:54 PM
left

GeminiGoddess's photo
Sat 01/05/08 04:59 PM
Edited by GeminiGoddess on Sat 01/05/08 05:00 PM
well, I read it wrong sorry lol

Totage's photo
Sat 01/05/08 05:01 PM
Edited by Totage on Sat 01/05/08 05:01 PM
I'm not wiccan/pagan, but I am curious to see what the differnce is, and what it's about.

GeminiGoddess's photo
Sat 01/05/08 05:01 PM
and I just got glasses..LOLnoway

Totage's photo
Sat 01/05/08 05:02 PM
did the glasses come with a fake nose j/k :tongue:

GeminiGoddess's photo
Sat 01/05/08 05:04 PM
Edited by GeminiGoddess on Sat 01/05/08 05:05 PM
nope no fake nose..lol

GeminiGoddess's photo
Sat 01/05/08 05:04 PM
Im personally on the Right Side, teetoring on the line..hahahalaugh J/K

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 01/05/08 05:08 PM
I’m ambidextrous but I’m not a witch.

What would it mean to be a ambidextrous witch.

And can I become a witch by choice? Or do I have to be born a witch? Or ordained in some way?

These are serious questions.

I ask this because I was reading about a power of healing that a person can obtain. I can’t even recall the name of it now, but it has oriental origins. In any case, they say that anyone can “learn” it. But even so it cannot be self-taught and it can only passed on from one person who has this ability to another. I think it was Reiki? Or something like that. It a healing power that has nothing to do with religion but must be obtained in-person from a person who already has this power. Once you have the power then you can bestow it onto other. They say that it does not even require a belief in God, even atheist can use this power. Yet the healing power is still considered to be spiritual.

Anyway, I was wondering if the same thing is true of becoming a witch. If you weren’t born a witch can you become one by choice? And if so, can you just do it on your own, or do you need to be “bewitched” but someone who is already a witch. Or maybe even by a coven of witches?

I don’t know anything about it, and I imagine that there are different beliefs and traditions even among those who are witches.

Enlighten me, please. flowerforyou

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Sat 01/05/08 05:09 PM
When I was a Kabbalist, all rituals were done widdershins.

GeminiGoddess's photo
Sat 01/05/08 05:42 PM
ok for the answer, a Left Handed Witch is one whom works with the Darker side of Magick, and the Right Hand Witch, works with the positive side of Magick
I am Right Handed but Im teetoring on the fence..lol J/K

Redykeulous's photo
Sat 01/05/08 06:43 PM
Hi GG,
Since this is a question thread, I would like to follow suit.

When you say "practices" am I to believe one casts spell with incantations and the like? And if so, does a 'practicing' witch use those practices to better their own situation?

Like Abra, I'm just curious, it seems so much has changed from the days, when I was researching 'witch craft'.

Thanks!

LadyValkyrie37's photo
Sun 01/20/08 05:35 PM
I would like to share with you, GeminiGoddess, an article about the "Ambidexterous Path" a.k.a. "The Path of Unified Duality." The article was written by author Michelle Belanger who is also a key figure in the Vampire and Gothic communities. Some of the books she has written are "Psychic Vampire Codex: A Manual of Magick and Energy Work", "The Psychic Energy Codex: A Manual For Developing Your Subtle Senses", and "Vampires in Their Own Words: An Anthology of Vampire Voices."

In perceived ethics and personal approach, practitioners of magick seem to fall into one of two paths: the Left Hand Path or the Right Hand Path. The two paths are often seen as being diametrically opposed to one another, and further, the Left Hand Path is generally associated with "black" magick whereas the Right Hand Path is generally associated with "white" magick The following short article explores the real meaning of these two approaches and posits the existence of a third, more unified approach.

The Left Hand Path affirms that each individual can be a god and that magick is worked by exerting the Will on the outside world. In the magick of the LHP, the practitioner does not supplicate divinities or powers outside of him- or herself. Rather, the practitioner acknowledges that he himself holds all the power he needs to change himself and the world around him. "My Will be done," is the anthem of the Left Hand Path, and these staunch individualists worship no power save the power of their Self.

The practitioners of the Right Hand Path generally accept that each person contains a spark of the Divine, but where the mortal individual is concerned, there are powers greater still. Gods and goddesses exist on a level far superior to humanity, and it is through their power and their will that magick is enacted. Thus, in the RHP, the practitioner declares, "Thy Will be done," supplicating the powers that be in order to achieve change within and without. When a working is complete, the individual expresses gratitude for the assistance lent to him or her by the deities who were the real power behind that working.

In general, most practitioners seem to feel that the paths fall into one of the two polarities: Left Hand or Right Hand. And yet, in my own experience, I would have to argue the existence of an Ambidexterous path that blends the elements of the two above extremes. The Ambidexterous Path is probably more appropriately called the Path of Unified Duality, and this is a path that may at first seem to be one of contradiction.

In the Path of Unified Duality, not only are both of the Left Hand and Right Hand approaches seen as true, but also they are seen as being true at the same time without conflict. Thus, in the Path of Unified Duality, the god without is the god within is the god without, each aspect simply being perceived from a different angle. As both the god that is the Self and the god that appears greater than the Self are one and the same, declaring "Thy Will be done" is identical to saying, "My Will be done." Both enact change and both sides are active regardless of which approach the individual is consciously taking. Thus, the power of the deity not only empowers the individual; simultaneously, the deity is the power of the individual and the indidual him- or herself.

Unsurprisingly, if I had to label my own approach in terms of such paths, I would have to say that I follow not the Left Hand Path and certainly not the Right Hand Path, but the Path of Unified Duality.

by Michelle Belanger

Lily0923's photo
Sun 01/20/08 05:42 PM
I have met Michelle Belinger, she spoke at a PPD I did a few years back... she is a highly intelligent woman.

Personally...(ie... my opinion) there is no such thing.... Harm none do what thou will.... means exactly what it means.... I don't care if you pray to the Morgain or to Kalima or if you pray to the squirrel in your pack yard.... it is all dark, it is all light... follow the rule of three.... and you don't have to worry about messing with powers beyond your control. There is not dark or light, there is no good or evil... what is is and what isn't isn't.

LadyValkyrie37's photo
Sun 01/20/08 06:09 PM

I’m ambidextrous but I’m not a witch.

What would it mean to be a ambidextrous witch.

And can I become a witch by choice? Or do I have to be born a witch? Or ordained in some way?

These are serious questions.

I ask this because I was reading about a power of healing that a person can obtain. I can’t even recall the name of it now, but it has oriental origins. In any case, they say that anyone can “learn” it. But even so it cannot be self-taught and it can only passed on from one person who has this ability to another. I think it was Reiki? Or something like that. It a healing power that has nothing to do with religion but must be obtained in-person from a person who already has this power. Once you have the power then you can bestow it onto other. They say that it does not even require a belief in God, even atheist can use this power. Yet the healing power is still considered to be spiritual.

Anyway, I was wondering if the same thing is true of becoming a witch. If you weren’t born a witch can you become one by choice? And if so, can you just do it on your own, or do you need to be “bewitched” but someone who is already a witch. Or maybe even by a coven of witches?

I don’t know anything about it, and I imagine that there are different beliefs and traditions even among those who are witches.

Enlighten me, please. flowerforyou



No one is born a Witch no more than a person is born a chef. It is a path that one chooses. Now from time to time you might hear of the term "hereditary witch" being used by certain people. That term simply means a person was taught "the craft" by a close relative or gaurdian. Even though they have been taught the craft it doesn't make them a Witch. Kind of like reading the a cook book doesn't make one a chef. One has to dedicate their mind and spirit to the craft to be considered a Witch.

The practice of healing that you speak of is called Reiki. Mikao Usui developed Reiki in the mid 19th century Japan. Those who practice Reiki use a technique similar to the "laying on of hands." Practioners of Reiki will channel the life force within, which they call Chi or Prana, into a "healing energy" to the one who needs the healing. A Reiki practioner can treat themselves with this same healing process if needed. Many Reiki practitioners also undertake to observe the 5 Reiki Principles recommended by Mikao Usui which are as follows...

I - Just for today, I will not be angry.
Anger at others or oneself or at the whole world, creates serious blockages in one's energy. It is the most complex inner enemy.

Reiki is an excellent tool to remove anger blockages which have accumulated in the body over years, but it cannot remove the residue of current anger which occurs daily.

Letting go of anger. brings Piece into the Mind.

II - Just for today, I will not worry.
While anger deals with past and present events, worry deals with future ones. Although worry is not always a negative phenomena, endless worries may fill one's head, and each one bores a small hole in one's body and soul. While anger requires a focused Reiki treatment to remove obstacles, worry requires the energy to be spread throughout the entire body.

Letting go of worry, brings healing into the Body.

III - Just for today, I will be grateful.
Be grateful from your hart inward. Inner intention is the important element in this principle. Simple things as thanks, forgiveness, smile, good words, gratitude can improve others life and make them happy.

Being thankful brings Joy into the Spirit.

IV - Just for today, I will do my work honestly.
Support yourself and your family respectably, without harming others. Earn a respectable living, live a life of honor.

Working Honestly brings Abundance into the Soul.


V- Just for today, I will be kind to every living thing.

Honor your parents, honor your teachers, honor your elders.

Being Kind brings Love into the Will.


I hope this has been helpful to you, Abra. :smile:

LadyValkyrie37's photo
Sun 01/20/08 06:12 PM
Edited by LadyValkyrie37 on Sun 01/20/08 06:13 PM

I have met Michelle Belinger, she spoke at a PPD I did a few years back... she is a highly intelligent woman.

Personally...(ie... my opinion) there is no such thing.... Harm none do what thou will.... means exactly what it means.... I don't care if you pray to the Morgain or to Kalima or if you pray to the squirrel in your pack yard.... it is all dark, it is all light... follow the rule of three.... and you don't have to worry about messing with powers beyond your control. There is not dark or light, there is no good or evil... what is is and what isn't isn't.


You are quoting the Wiccan Rede, Lily, which by it's very title (Rede) means advice and counsel. The Wiccan Rede is advice not Holy Law. The Wiccan Rede also is for Wiccans... not all Pagans and Witches. Besides, I thought you said you don't claim yourself as a Wiccan? And what do you mean no such thing? No such thing as what exactly?

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Sun 01/20/08 06:22 PM


I have met Michelle Belinger, she spoke at a PPD I did a few years back... she is a highly intelligent woman.

Personally...(ie... my opinion) there is no such thing.... Harm none do what thou will.... means exactly what it means.... I don't care if you pray to the Morgain or to Kalima or if you pray to the squirrel in your pack yard.... it is all dark, it is all light... follow the rule of three.... and you don't have to worry about messing with powers beyond your control. There is not dark or light, there is no good or evil... what is is and what isn't isn't.


You are quoting the Wiccan Rede, Lily, which by it's very title (Rede) means advice and counsel. The Wiccan Rede is advice not Holy Law. The Wiccan Rede also is for Wiccans... not all Pagans and Witches. Besides, I thought you said you don't claim yourself as a Wiccan? And what do you mean no such thing? No such thing as what exactly?


Wow... nit picky...

I have said alot of things..

Let me write a 15 page essay on what I believe or maybe i can clear it up in a few sentences, and people would actually be interested all the way threw.

I'm ecletic... I use Wicca, I use Celtic traditional, I use hellanic, I use buddhist, I use whatever my heart desires... yes the three fold law and the rede are law to ME... ME... MY OPINION... MINE. I don't think I can state that anymore.. I have said it many times.... MY OPINION....

I do not claim Wicca as I'm not wiccan... I do not claim christianity as I am not christian... I am Pagan... ecletic pagan.... Pagan.. latin origin, meaning country dweller... that is the "true" definition, that is what I call myself. Not Gardinarian, not Dianic, not Asatru, not any other sect of it... I am Pagan... as some are christians... not catholic, not baptist, not methodist, not anything but christian.

Does that make things clearer?

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Sun 01/20/08 06:24 PM

The practice of healing that you speak of is called Reiki. Mikao Usui developed Reiki in the mid 19th century Japan. Those who practice Reiki use a technique similar to the "laying on of hands." Practioners of Reiki will channel the life force within, which they call Chi or Prana, into a "healing energy" to the one who needs the healing. A Reiki practioner can treat themselves with this same healing process if needed. Many Reiki practitioners also undertake to observe the 5 Reiki Principles recommended by Mikao Usui which are as follows...


Thank you LV... I will add ...

Reiki was not developed by Usui but he re-discovered and re-introduced it.

Reiki means 'universal life force' or 'universal life energy'. It is the same as others call chi or prana.

When one stubs their toe, the first instinct is to hold it ... Reiki uses the same energy but jacked way up. The practitioner is the conduit through which the energy flows ... it is different from healing touch in this fundamental way. Nothing comes from the practitioner...

Usui's system is simple...and intended for use by everyone. Others have come along to add their own flavour but the Usui system complete.

Abra you have mail ... flowerforyou


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Sun 01/20/08 06:42 PM



I have met Michelle Belinger, she spoke at a PPD I did a few years back... she is a highly intelligent woman.

Personally...(ie... my opinion) there is no such thing.... Harm none do what thou will.... means exactly what it means.... I don't care if you pray to the Morgain or to Kalima or if you pray to the squirrel in your pack yard.... it is all dark, it is all light... follow the rule of three.... and you don't have to worry about messing with powers beyond your control. There is not dark or light, there is no good or evil... what is is and what isn't isn't.


You are quoting the Wiccan Rede, Lily, which by it's very title (Rede) means advice and counsel. The Wiccan Rede is advice not Holy Law. The Wiccan Rede also is for Wiccans... not all Pagans and Witches. Besides, I thought you said you don't claim yourself as a Wiccan? And what do you mean no such thing? No such thing as what exactly?


Wow... nit picky...

I have said alot of things..

Let me write a 15 page essay on what I believe or maybe i can clear it up in a few sentences, and people would actually be interested all the way threw.

I'm ecletic... I use Wicca, I use Celtic traditional, I use hellanic, I use buddhist, I use whatever my heart desires... yes the three fold law and the rede are law to ME... ME... MY OPINION... MINE. I don't think I can state that anymore.. I have said it many times.... MY OPINION....

I do not claim Wicca as I'm not wiccan... I do not claim christianity as I am not christian... I am Pagan... ecletic pagan.... Pagan.. latin origin, meaning country dweller... that is the "true" definition, that is what I call myself. Not Gardinarian, not Dianic, not Asatru, not any other sect of it... I am Pagan... as some are christians... not catholic, not baptist, not methodist, not anything but christian.

Does that make things clearer?


No more caffeine for you. Now let me make myself clear. I get irked beyond belief when do-gooder Pagans put down people like Michelle Belanger or any other Vampire or Left Hand Pather especially when they spout off The Wiccan Rede and/or the Three Fold Law. You know I really hate TV shows like "Charmed" and Movies like "The Craft" because silly little teeny boppers tend to think they are "how to's" to Wicca. However, there is a quote from the movie "The Craft" that I can't help but Quote "True magic is neither black nor white. It's both because nature is both, loving and cruel, all at the same time. The only good or bad is in the heart of the witch. Life gives a balance of it's own." I hate having to quote from that stupid movie but that quote sums it up well. All I can add to that is this... there is both good and evil within all of us. The key is to keep a balance between the two within us. Tip the balance too far either way and the spirit becomes unhealthy. And yes, I believe that one can be too good, because one would be denying what is naturally there the natural evil within. One needs to let the evil out every now and then. Life has a way of balancing it all out. Now to get back to Vampirism... Vampirism works exactly like Reiki, only in reverse. Someone has an overabundance of Chi(Prana) and another is in need of Chi(Prana). When the one who has an overabundance of Chi is willing the one who is in need of the Chi will take (drain/feed) the Chi from the other. That is Vampirism. No one is getting harmed. Now, I'm going to lay off the caffeine myself.grumble

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