The difference though is, you are using your experiences to try and dictate and control other people and behaviors......and that is wrong. You can believe anything you want to on a personal level, but it needs to stay personal. The moment you try and tell someone else how to live by force based on your beliefs you cross a line.

THAT is why I can never truly "get over" my abuse because that abuse is symbolic of an overall society problem in how we think and view people. It is something I will NEVER consent to happening again.

No, you're not getting it.

How we are made has absolutely nothing to do with if we sin or not. We are all made the exact same way, yet we are all totally and completely different from one another in the way we think, act, behave, ect. If how we were made had anything to do with how we behaved in any way at all, we would all behave the exact same.

If you are perfect,you can not chose the Imperfect!
You can NOT disobey!
You are using exactly that very Obfuscation I asked you not to use,but expected you to,because you have no,and there is no answer!
A Perfect being can not at in a disobedient or Imperfect manner!
It's IMPOSSIBLE,regardless of the mental Acrobatics you employ!

And then you go on and blame Man,who was created perfect,yet on his own Volition,even though he had no Knowledge of Good or Evil went and chose to become Evil!
And all that before tasting that Fruit of the Knowledge Of Good and Evil!
Before tasting that Fruit,mind you!

If you are perfect,you can not chose the Imperfect!
You can NOT disobey!

Wrong, they're made so that you will fall in line with what is wanted of you. They do not want free thinkers...., I believe George Carlin put it the best when he said:

"I'll tell you what they (the government) don't want

They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking.

They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking.

They're not interested in that! That doesn't help them. That's against their interests.

They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting ****ed by a system that threw them overboard 30 ****ing years ago.

You know what they want? Obedient workers – Obedient workers.

People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime, and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. "

(full transcript of the entire bit is here: http://dotsub.com/view/5782d237-ab0a-41bc-a35b-d8b34d886b7c/viewTranscript/eng

That is what the government wants.....they may say they care about the people want the best for them, that they wanna protect us, keep us safe and so on and so forth, but it's all a bunch of hot air. Most laws are formed to serve THEIR interests, not ours. Oh sure you'll be given certain crumbs of freedom, like what restaurant to choose to eat at, what car to buy, shoes to wear, things that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things....things to keep us from revolting, and even that veil is beginning to lift, but things that actually would CHANGE the way we do things? Nope, that's not allowed, can't break their stranglehold on the public.....nothing in it for them then.

We need to wake up......America, the legal system, our government, is NOT what we are being told it is, not by a long shot. Quite frankly people trying to defend it are a part of the problem, it needs to stop, the system is broken and needs fixing. If they won't fix it, than we should. Enough of this garbage.

But you basically admitted that the they tore the thing down no? How the hell else is it gonna come down that way???

And you REALLY think that they could have planted explosives in hours? Less than that even since they wouldn't have even known they wanted to tear it down till just before? Yeah that makes sense.......come on use your brain I'm begging you!

I can tell you don't, or maybe don't want to see it, but it doesn't change things. Regardless of your personal opinion of it, how they dealt with the situation pretty much speaks for it itself, as well the fact AGAIN that the building would have had to have been rigged up long before. There's no way they could have gotten it ready to be pulled in hours, just couldn't have done it.

Actually it does matter because it illustrates how they are willing to lie about something if it suits their agenda to do so. If they could feed you a lie about building 7, what makes you think they wouldn't lie about the Trade Center towers, or for that matter just about anything else?

On its' own that they tore down Building 7 is pretty innocuous, buildings are demolished like that routinely, and the idea that they decided to tear this one down because of what happened to it is somewhat believable.

BUT when you look at how they went out of their way to say that wasn't what happened and tried to spin it as coming down simply from fire....that combined with the other events of the day raises a whole host of questions.

So it DOES matter how and when they tore it down when you factor in all of that, and that's on top of the fact that to implode a building, ANY building, it takes time to set things up inside, you gotta plant the explosives and get everything ready ahead of time. You can't just do that in less than a day. They would have had to had this planned long before.

The whole thing just brings about more questions than it does answers, it may seem insignificant on its' own but when put together with everything else it becomes quite important.

I'll explain it to you then.

1. Building 7 is important because it was not hit by a plane, which is the excuse/cause given for the collapse of the twin towers.

2. Building 7 was not hit by a plane, and it collapsed anyway, and they are claiming that it was not demolished on purpose so now they have to try to convince people that the fire caused the building to fall. (They are not very convincing)

If it had been only the twin towers that fell, it would have been a whole lot easier to successfully sell the story that the reason for the buildings collapse was that they were hit by planes driven by terrorists. BUT building 7, also fell into its footprint in a very neat and professional manner that resembled a controlled demolition and it was NOT HIT BY A PLANE.

So somebody had a lot of splainin' to do.

And they got together all their writers and 'splainers that are on the government payroll and they took a while, but eventually they came up with some explanations that a few people bought lock stock and barrel, but by the time they did that, the conspiracy theorist had over run the Internet.

Clearly the propaganda 'splainers need to be quicker on the draw for any future terrorists events they want to have. They are clearly out gunned by the conspiracy theorists.

Not really, I know what the facts are, I could careless what the media may try to spin them as. It's you that needs to learn them, not me.

life is a balance, it can sometimes be all about our opinion, our desire, our thoughts,, but sometimes it is necessary in order to be part of a SOCIETY to be PART OF THE SOCIETY and blend down some of the INDIVIDUAL,,,,,,,


I think some people flourish better in different environments, but I also think there is a survival of the fittest need to be tought and understand 'the game',, 'the status quo' or whatever we call it so that we can be competitive in the real world,,,,which doesnt necessarily conform to EACH Individual,,,

I prefer montessouri which takes childrens strengths and builds on them while continuing to instill the basics of our culture so they can remain relevant and comptetitive,,,

some public schools also can be found with such a model but are more likely to be located in communities where people have more income

many public schools are overcrowded in terms of student to teacher ratio and resources which makes it much more difficult for them to have the time or resource to conform to each individual childs specific and unique circumstances,, and makes it more necessary for the parents to work with their unique attributes while the teachers are given a more 'uniform' standard by which those children can most peacefully and fairly receive their education,,,

No kidding, you get the feeling that some of these people would jump off a bridge if a "scientist" said you could survive doing so. I mean.......screw the facts right?

Not the same statement, when I am saying for you to get over yourself, what I mean by that is realize that not everyone shares your beliefs, and that while it's fine to have your own, to try and understand others and not just judge them as wrong or try to outright dictate to them based on your own viewpoint. That's what I mean when I say religious people need to get over themselves. They need to understand people have different needs (kids included I might add) and it isn't necessarily going to be what you THINK they need. We would do far better if we listened and tried to understand rather than just judged based on what we believe we know or have been told.

That's far different from being told to get over my abuse as if it didn't happen, or get over the effects it had on me......very different.

And as for hostility...honestly I get really tired of the back and forth at times.....it gets emotionally draining so when I get quiet that's usually why. I sometimes think about just quitting posting here entirely really.....

Amen. Sometimes rules don't DESERVE respect, and should be disobeyed and challenged. One of the big problems this country and in ways the world has is this "roll over" mentality accepting every and all restriction they place on us no matter how inane it is. It's time we stop that, apathy is killing us. We need to start telling them NO, we need to start pushing back.

And Msharmony, this isn't JUST about the mohawk, the mohawk is a symbol of everything wrong here.....a symbol of so many insane laws and regulations that have no business being as such. It may seem insignificant on the surface, but it is a sign of a bigger problem, that is to say a power hungry government wanting to control as much as they can. It's something we need to be protesting, enough is enough.