If you can get it before the government does.........it's going FAST.

I think in ways they are pushing it...they WANT a reason to use force against us, and now they know they can with what happened in Boston. That is just the beginning I fear.

http://www.federaljack.com/man-charged-with-terrorism-for-criticizing-school-security/

Can't even make this crap up........if anyone can read this and still think we are free......I don't know what to tell you anymore. This ought to be an alarm to everyone reading this. We need to wake up and NOW.

They've done it before.........it may have been a terrorist strike, but the terrorists were not who it may seem.......hell there's photos of what appears to be Seals planting the bombs here.

Not just the Democrats, it's the entire government.....this did NOT begin with Obama.

Great quote, when was this from??

Agreed, and on background checking.....I wouldn't have an issue with it IF it wasn't the government doing the testing. I don't trust them NOT to abuse the system for their own gains. If it could be proven it wasn't gonna be subjective I'd be fine with it, but otherwise I am against it.

People really bug me with their attitudes on this.....lost a friend on Twitter over it and this was the crux of her argument:

"As someone who's had a domestic partner threaten to kill her, I'm not putting up with that ****."

"If you're afraid of the government taking away your guns, then when the government releases a bill saying "we're going to take away guns!

...tell your reps to vote against THAT. Don't vote against background checks. BACKGROUND CHECKS. So rapists and abusers can't buy guns"

Two problems with that, firstly.....you CANNOT use your emotions to justify a law, any law. Yes what happened to you was bad but it does not mean everyone else should suffer for it, nor does it mean it would stop any future crime from occuring. People have got to learn to keep their emotions out of these things, it clouds their judgment.

So that's one thing, the other is that I do not want to give the government even a chance to GET to taking our guns away. By the time we want to speak out on that, it will be far too late to stop it. If we wait, we WILL lose, the time to act is at the beginning, NOT at the end. It has to be cut off at the root, you won't be able to do it when it's 10 feet tall. The background check issue may seem small but in the bigger picture it is the start of a bigger agenda. If we wanna protect our right to bear arms we cannot afford to wait and just hope somehow they'd listen to us later. They won't to begin with as they hardly ever do, and there will be all sorts of other damage coming from laws enacted before it regardless. You just cannot open that door, cause once you do it won't be closed again, never is.

We have got to start thinking critically, using our heads and looking past the present moment to future ramifications when it comes to stuff like this. Our liberties rest on that.

who says she'd bring them around the kids necessarily? There are ways to see a guy without introducing them to kids if you'd rather not bring that into the equation.

Don't give em ideas......I thought of this when I heard about the cookers lol.

Can bet it's not over though, Lord Obama and company will find ways to get a revote.....it's how government works. If at first you don't succeed, keep ramming it down throats till you do, will of the people be damned.

Watch for another shooting perhaps to try and increase the pressure.......wouldn't surprise me.

is there any way we can consolidate these threads? I don't think we need 4 separate ones to talk about the same topic.........

I hate mainstream news, all bullchit and agenda, lies and manipulation, pretty much to a fault. If I had a choice I wouldn't wanna listen to it at all, but my grandma and mom watch it religiously so I'm forced to hear it daily. It's depressing and draining, sick how they use tragedies for ratings and for pushing fear, they exploit them all the time.

I'm barely gonna be able to stomach this garbage now.....for someone that sees right through all the bullchit surrounding this, it's gonna be hard. You can already SEE the emotionalism coming in and the agenda pushing starting.

But it also says that ANYTHING you ban, no matter it be certain types of guns or anything else, does NOT take them out of society it just pushes them underground. Ergo, the more you regulate guns the more access criminals have to them in that culture, and the more at risk you put yourself and your loved ones.

What it comes down to is this.....the guns are not going away no matter what laws exist or don't, they are here and here to stay. Would you rather have them in the hands of responsible people or in the hands of criminals? It's as simple as that right there.

And if you wanna talk paranoid, I think you need to look at yourself first, because it's evident you are paranoid to the point that even the thought of a gun means bad can happen to you. As the saying goes, guns don't kill, people do. Learn to separate the two, the gun is just the means.

and it'd take more time to use any of those things......too much time in the face of a gun. They are not as practical against a gun as another gun is. Again that's a common sense deal.

Except you're NOT going to truly get safe or safer, you can't have one without the other. An armed people is a protected people, where there are fewer arms, there is going to be more crime sorry to say. Criminals are much more likely to target the more defenseless than those who are capable of defending themselves, that's a fact and also just common sense.

So I'm sorry to say this but.....if you REALLY want to be safer, you're going to have to get over the dislike of guns because at the end of the day it's mans ability to possess them, the DECENT people not the ones who are gonna use them to harm (which is STILL going to happen no matter how many guns are banned or not, and is why others should be able to have em to begin with), that keeps you safe a hell of a lot more than when you don't have them. Otherwise you really only have an illusion of safety not real safety.

That kinda proves my point actually......as I say if someone tries to buck the system, it's easy to take em out and make it look like something else did. They've done it many many times over the course of history.

I stand by my statement. You could learn plenty if you listened to what people were telling you instead of just dismissing what you'd rather not hear. But....it's your choice to make.

quite a bit if you actually were open to something beyond what you think you know........but it's clear that isn't happening.

Nah I live in reality, join me sometime, you might learn something.

BJ was a distraction if you ask me......and like I said easy solution if someone talks, kill em and make it look like you didn't, or just discredit the hell out of em. They do both routinely.