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Tue 03/17/15 04:49 PM
Hollywood Studio Caught Producing ISIS Videos

Shockwaves are being felt all throughout Tinseltown today as federal authorities moved to arrest several who are accused of aiding and abetting a foreign terrorist organization by producing ISIS recruitment videos. It had long been suspected that the ISIS videos were produced from an outside source due to their above average production value, but no one had imagined an American production company could somehow be involved.

That changed last night, when authorities moved in and raided Final Solution Productions, a production company off the famous intersection of Sunset and Vine. Authorities did not release the names of those arrested but did say six were arrested at the studio and two more at their homes in coordinated raids. Final Solution Productions is listed as a finishing company on their Web site, and claim to have worked on projects in the live sports commercial world, including for clients such as Pepsi Cola, Anheuser-Busch, and Apple.

It is not known at the time of publishing to what extent these companies were themselves involved with Final Solutions, if at all, or what specific role it played in finishing the ads. What is known is that Final Solution Productions was operating under this front while editing and producing the terrorist videos from their Hollywood studio.

“Around 2300 hours last night, in conjunction with Office of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Los Angeles Police Department, officers seized the assets at 42568 Vine St., arresting six individuals,” said FBI Special Agent Kendrick D. Williams from the LA division.

“Two additional suspected were apprehended at their residence at that same time. All eight are being held as suspects in distributing and creating terrorist propaganda and are awaiting formal charges.” Agent Williams is in charge of the Los Angeles intelligence office, and said agents were tipped off when they intercepted what appeared to be raw video elements being downloaded on computers in the Los Angeles metropolitan area.

When asked, Mr. Williams would not elaborate how the government intercepted this material, but sources say it was a result of interrogation that first began from captured prisoners in Iraq. One source told us that authorities learned of video elements being sent via encrypted FTP servers to a producer “somewhere in the United States.”

Tech experts tell us that once a server containing this media could be intercepted, it wouldn’t take long for someone with the right resources to be able to track the IP addresses of where it was ultimately being delivered, even if that IP addressed was masked by a torrent system.

“Currently the FBI is investigating all other possible connections that Final Solution Productions may have had in the Hollywood production area,” said LAPD Chief Charlie Beck. “We do not believe Final Solution Productions acted alone, and are currently investigating its partners.”

For some time, authorities have been worried of so called “domestic terrorists” working for ISIS, and consider this a possible lead. Final Solution is believed to have worked with other studios and producers in Hollywood, some who, while not terrorists specifically, saw a profitable business and sought to gain from it.

“It wouldn’t be the first time Hollywood has sold itself out for a price,” said Hollywood insider Hanna Strong. Strong has started the #shameonhollywood tag in part to raise awareness against those in Hollywood willing to sell out America for their own profits.

The tag is seen as a public reminder to executives that Americans won’t stand for this behavior, and is currently trending. “Americans need to react to this story so that we don’t let a few money hungry people taint Hollywood,” continued Strong.

“It’s up to us as consumers to let the executives know where we stand on terrorism.” Those arrested include the president of Final Solution Productions, his executive producer, editor, and coordinator.

http://drudgereport.com.co/hollywood-studio-caught-producing-isis-videos/

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Tue 03/17/15 04:45 PM




It's really amazing what one can find online as long as they IGNORE the MSM corporate media conglomerate ABCNNBCBSFOX's media websites.





Are You sure You didn't mean to say M.G.M. (Metro Goldwyn Mayer) slaphead


Funny that you should mention that. A jewish owned Hollywood studio was busted for making the ISIS beheading videos. Final Solution Productions L.L.C.

Cops busted them and arrested a half a dozen people and closed the place down.


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Tue 03/17/15 04:30 PM
Unlimited War! ISIS Psyop Theater Comes to Full Fruition

The CIA and the U.S. Military Industrial Complex have now invested over 6 months of ISIS branding, promotion, and public relations. It was revealed by early January of 2015 that the U.S. had already dumped over one billion dollars to fight ISIS. All supposedly invested in failed air strikes and un-televised secret battles against ISIS where the U.S. ends up attacking Syrian targets instead.

The ISIS psyop has been worked on so hard by the architects of the plan that now we are seeing the final desired political goals of the entire operation - an operation which has become more of a global theater. The ISIS psyop theater is now coming to fruition and the globalists are speaking loud and clear about what they want, which is really an admission to why they concocted the ISIS psyop to begin with.

They want the authorization to use "unlimited" military "force" wherever they want, whenever they want and (of course) on WHO-ever they want to use it on. Isn't this a tyrannical empire's dream come true? And with this revelation the romance between ISIS and CIA/US/Israel and the other NATO ISIS partners is now fully exposed to anyone willing to see it for what it is.

For over 6 months Americans and people all over the world who still retain their normal critical thinking skills have been subjected to painfully sloppy fake ISIS videos, heavily scripted news reports verbally dictating to us accounts of supposed battles against ISIS. All along, as the months go by, ISIS has not been affected at all by anything the U.S. and its pro-ISIS allies have done. If anything, they keep telling us that ISIS continues to grow.


Even when it was revealed that throughout Iraq, "suspicions" were running deep back in September of 2014 that "CIA and Islamic State are united", no one within the mainstream media did anything to stop the ISIS psyop by at least exposing the fact that not one ISIS supply line had been disrupted, not one bank account ceased, not one (illegal) NSA data mining effort able to collect the whereabouts of ISIS (as they do of U.S. innocent citizens) to gather them up and end the ISIS theater. Not one story was reported by mainstream media about the 100+ ISIS supply trucks rumbling through Turkey to get into Syria. Not one story appeared about how Turkey was supporting ISIS or about how the U.S. and its NATO allies were allowing ISIS to enjoy (food, water, toiletries and ammo) supplies without disruption.

We never did find out how ISIS was able to get on the Internet, make calls, communicate, make high production style videos and upload to the Internet. All we got was ISIS production department Rita Katz and her (CIA approved anti-terror propaganda) SITE Institute telling us she luckily found the ISIS beheading videos and was able to show it to the world before ISIS themselves could promote their own video. Aside from this bizarre story we got not a peep from the mainstream media about anything relevant to stopping ISIS.

Since the launching of the ISIS show, mainstream media has instead been focused on only branding and praising ISIS and showing the world how incredible and unstoppable they are. Since the branding of the ISIS name began late in the summer of 2014 we've watched the ISIS psyop script morph from the fake James Foley beheading video blocked from the masses by YouTube claiming the video was too graphic and offensive, to an organization which is now (supposedly) full-scale global force stronger and more organized than any nation on earth.

We have also watched for over 6 months now as the 83 Comments story evolved into a tale told very differently by two opposing forms of media coverage. The true alternative independent (non-corporate) media has collectively exposed the ISIS tale showing how each story gets more and more ridiculous. On the other hand, the mainstream corporate media has pounded the ISIS brand and its greatness into its viewers daily, carefully setting them up for the war approval request we see now.

If you actually tracked mainstream media stories of the last 6 months you will very likely find that ISIS has gotten more headlines than any other single topic. In an Orwellian society that suffers from headline news amnesia, thanks to the "ministry of truth" mainstream media who regularly changes the headline news to fit the agenda of the day, we've seen an unusual repetition of ISIS stories that doesn't even fit the mainstream media's own script, much less the framework of reality, truth and reason.

This over-the-top effort by CIA's mainstream media to over-sell the ISIS brand is now primed for being fully exposed with the latest White House bold request for unlimited military power to strike and kill anyone they please. For perspective, let's examine the Obama/White House psyop sequence of responses with respect to ISIS over the last six months.

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Tue 03/17/15 04:12 PM
UN Report Reveals How Israel is Coordinating with ISIS Militants Inside Syria

FEBRUARY 19, 2015 BY 21WIRE

21st Century Wire says��

The Syrian conflict continues to develop into a proxy war, pitting various foreign ��national interests against one another, including US vs. Syria, US vs Iran, Saudi Arabia vs Syria, Qatar vs. Syria, Turkey vs. Kurdistan and Iran vs. Israel to name only a few. So the support network behind Washington'��s Moderate Rebels�� and terrorist groups fighting in Syria is comprised of many contributing covert intelligence agencies, including the CIA, MI5/6, Mossad, France, NATO, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

21WIRE reported back in December 2014 and again in January 2015, how the State of Israel has consistently provided both material, medical relief and IDF airstrike support to various terrorist and ��rebel insurgents fighting in Syria.

Last month Israel launched its sixth airstrike inside Syria in the last 18 months, which is described as a targeted killing�� against Hezbollah, whom Tel Aviv maintains is backed by their sworn enemy Iran which leader Benjamin Netanyahu claims, affords Israel the right to kill them at any time, or any place. Back in 2013, the Assad government in Damascus invited Lebanese Hezbollah militia into Syria to help eliminate terrorists in Syria, and now the uncomfortable reality is finally surfacing that Israel has been picking off Syrian military and Hezbollah targets who are trying to fight-off ISIS, al Qaeda and al Nusra terrorists �� which means that Israel is actually helping ISIS.

The UN report identified what the Syrians label a crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS, a point of concern brought before the UN Security Council.��

According to the United Nations Documents on UNDOF (official UN source) the Israels interactions with the Syrian rebels have been documented. If the international community were to pull-up Israel on this fact, they would do what Washington, Saudi Arabia and others have done which is claim they are only dealing with the fictional ��moderate rebels�� �� most of whom have been shown time and time again to be defecting over to ISIS.

[...] Israel has blood on its hands in the Syrian conflict, but is trying very hard to conceal their involvement in order to avoid any public outrage over their direct role in the violence in Syria, and by extension, in Iraq as well.

Either way, it'��s an ugly edition to an already horrific picture in the Middle East.

The details of these latest findings have been assembled in this excellent report from Your News Wire�

Your News Wire

A new report from the UN reveals that the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) maintained regular contact with members of ISIS since May 2013. The UN identified contact with IDF forces and ISIS soldiers.

Addictinginfo.org reports:

��In a new report from the UN, it is revealed that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were maintaining regular contact with members of the so-called Islamic State since May of 2013. Initial reports from the IDF stated that this was only for medical care for civilians, but that story fell apart when the UN observers identified direct contact between IDF forces and ISIS soldiers, including giving medical care to ISIS fighters.

Observations even included the transfer of two crates from the IDF to ISIS forces, the contents of which have not been confirmed at this time. Further the UN report identified what the Syrians label a crossing point of forces between Israel and ISIS, a point of concern brought before the UN Security Council. This report from the UN strengthens the claims by the Syrian regime that Israel is heavily involved in operations within the nation.

This is part of a continuing pattern of Israeli support for the Islamic State. It was only two months ago that Israel attacked Syrian forces in opposition to ISIS forces. Israeli attacks even killed an Iranian military adviser for the Syrian military just two weeks ago. The U.S.'��s financing of ISIS, part of the effort against Syrian president Assad, is well documented, as well. That the efforts to undermine the Assad regime were in turn strengthening the same terrorist group which recently set a Jordanian pilot on fire to set an example is conveniently ignored by the higher up military command.

When the United States began operations against ISIS, Israeli high command seemed reluctant to give any support and called the move a mistake. The support of ISIS fits in with Israeli concerns in the region, namely that of Syria and Iran, and U.S. opposition to ISIS has put the United States in the awkward position of once again arming the enemies we will be fighting tomorrow.

Syria and Iran both pose a threat to Israel with their sizable conventional forces and political clout in the region, in much the same way Iraq was before the elimination of Saddam Hussein. With the toppling of Saddam, pieces of concern remain, and Israel appears to still maintain the old axiom that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Supporting ISIS for Israel enables them to [attempt to] eliminate two issues at once [Syria and Iran] [...]

We [the US] once were respected throughout the region, as neutral peace-brokers, the nation which oversaw the breakup of the Barbary pirates and a country which became eternal friends with the people of Iran when all of Europe ignored them. Now we are Israel'��s expected muscle, to carry out their dirty work in an effort to destabilize the region and de-power those the tiny nation views as a threat. They will support anyone, if it meets a short-term goal, even if the result is a plot more complex and ridiculous than an episode of ��Passions." This can, and will cost them long-term.

The United States cannot be party to this. Whatever the political and economic cost, the U.S. must disengage from all sides in the Middle East, before it is too late.

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READ MORE ISIS NEWS AT: 21st Century Wire ISIS Files

(reference links within article)
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/02/19/un-report-reveals-how-israel-is-coordinating-with-isis-militants-inside-syria/

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Tue 03/17/15 04:07 PM

If I scroll to the right... It's just blacked-out. noway


I just took it down. It's still up on moes thread though.

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Tue 03/17/15 04:00 PM

Edit-Down, Bobby !

Edit the pictures so they're a little smaller and we can still read the whole page.

Now, it's right-off my 9 inch screen, Pal.


I apologize. I wish the photo's could be sized down. Perhaps there is some sort of code for that?

Thing is...there are a lot of people in that photo. It covers some space. I'm not sure a photo like that can be downsized and keep everyone in the right focus.

Can you scroll around on your tablet?

Left/Right?

Up/Down?

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Tue 03/17/15 03:43 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Tue 03/17/15 04:06 PM
This is why Iran and Hez were taken off the terror list. The rest of the world now knows who the real terrorists are and it isn't them. Western media is still concealing this...of course.


US, Israeli Military Advisors Accused of Aiding ISIL Arrested in Iraq

American and Israeli military advisors were arrested while aiding Islamic State terrorists in Iraq.

Iraqi counter-terrorism forces arrested four foreign military advisors from the United States and Israel who were aiding the Islamic State, Iranian Tasnim News Agency reports.

Three of the arrested military advisors are dual citizens of the United States and Israel, while the fourth advisor is from a Persian Gulf country, Iraq’s Sarma News Agency said.

The foreign military advisors were captured in a headquarters, from where the Islamic State organized its military operations in Iraq’s Northern Province of Nineveh.

The arrests were made during the Operation, codenamed "The Sting of a Scorpion". A number of other Islamic State fighters have been killed during the assault. The detained foreign advisors have now been transferred to Baghdad.

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150307/1019201301.html

It's really amazing what one can find online as long as they IGNORE the MSM corporate media conglomerate ABCNNBCBSFOX's media websites.

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Tue 03/17/15 03:40 PM


I'll put my money on the journalistic integrity of jimstone.is any day of the week.


But, anyone who disagree's with what I post from the jimstone.is website is free to refute those facts with linked facts of their own.


So far I haven't seen any refutations from anyone (& I can't say I really expect to either).

Haters are gonna hate regardless of the facts presented...& when those haters can't refute the facts I've posted...it makes them hate ( me ) even more.

I understand that. And, accept it.

Facts?
Holy Cow!
That poor Boy has acute Brainrot!
Nuttier even that the Crew at Sott and GlobalResearch!


That's an interesting opinion you have in regard to Sott and GlobalResearch; would I be correct in surmising you are unable to refute or rebut the facts used in the articles on those websites? As for your usual posting technique...

Argumentum ad Hominem (abusive and circumstantial): the fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument. Often the argument is characterized simply as a personal attack.

The personal attack is also often termed an "ad personem argument": the statement or argument at issue is dropped from consideration or is ignored, and the locutor's character or circumstances are used to influence opinion.

The fallacy draws its appeal from the technique of "getting personal." The assumption is that what the locutor is saying is entirely or partially dictated by his character or special circumstances and so should be disregarded.

http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/person.html
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You are free to refute any of the facts I have posted at any time using facts of your own, you know.

That is what a debate is all about.

It's about using the best facts to present the best argument.

A debate is not about seeing who can post the most or even the best logical fallacies.

Debate Definition
dictionary.search.yahoo.com
v. verb
1. To consider something; deliberate.
2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.
3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument.
n. noun
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration.
passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition.

Trolling:

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
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See the difference?

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Tue 03/17/15 03:36 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Tue 03/17/15 03:31 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Tue 03/17/15 03:33 PM
Three days after Iran entered Iraq, Isis leadership BUSTED

You got that right! Three days ago, Iran entered Iraq with 60 armored vehicles to "fight ISIS" after being invited to by the Iraqi government, and now FOUR (4) top Isis foreign military advisors have been busted. No reference to Iran actually doing the bust was given, but it is all pretty obvious.

Anyway, 1 Arab, 2 American military advisors and 1 Mossad agent got nailed in the bust and are now in custody.

B U S T E D !!!

Iraq Arrests US, Israeli Military Advisors For ISIS In Mosul



March 07, 2015 - Fars News Agency

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iraqi Special Forces said they have arrested several ISIL'��s foreign military advisors, including American, Israeli and Arab nationals in an operation in Mosul in the Northern parts of the country.

The Iraqi forces said they have retrieved four foreign passports, including those that belonged to American and Israeli nationals and one that belonged to the national of a Persian Gulf Cooperation Council (PGCC) member-state, from ISIL’s military advisors.

The foreign advisors were arrested in a military operation in Tal Abta desert near Mosul city.

Last year, a senior aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin accused Mossad of training ISIL terrorists operating in Iraq and Syria.

Alexander Prokhanov said that Mossad is also likely to have transferred some of its spying experiences to the ISIL leadership, adding that Israel's military advisors could be assisting the Takfiri terrorists.

Prokhanov said ISIL is a byproduct of US policies in the Middle East.

ISIL is a tool at the hands of the United States. They tell the Europeans that if we (the Americans) do not intervene, ISIL will cause you harm, he said, adding that Iran and Russia are the prime targets of the ISIL.

They launched their first terror attack against us just a few days back in Chechnya, he said, stressing that the ISIL ideology has got nothing to do with the Islam practiced in Iran and some other Muslim countries in the Middle East region.

Prokhanov said the United States and Israel are one and the same when it comes to supporting a terror organization like the ISIL.

http://thesaker.is/iraq-arrests-isils-us-israeli-military-advisors-in-mosul

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Tue 03/17/15 03:26 PM
I'll put my money on the journalistic integrity of jimstone.is any day of the week.


But, anyone who disagree's with what I post from the jimstone.is website is free to refute those facts with linked facts of their own.


So far I haven't seen any refutations from anyone (& I can't say I really expect to either).

Haters are gonna hate regardless of the facts presented...& when those haters can't refute the facts I've posted...it makes them hate ( me ) even more.

I understand that. And, accept it.

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Tue 03/17/15 03:18 PM
Another Media Psyop? The Ancient Statues ISIS Supposedly Destroyed Were All FAKE



Anyone who doesn’t know who funded, trained, armed and essentially created ISIS at this point (...http://www.thedailysheeple.com/you-do-realize-that-the-u-s-funded-and-trained-isis-right_082014...) needs to please do some research and wake up.

They are essentially like little toys being scooted around on the giant world Risk game board for the purpose of spreading fear and reshaping the Middle East in the way the empire-building nations of the West (including Israel) sees fit.

The story on RT begins:

The ancient statues that Islamic State militants smashed in Mosul on camera last month have been proved to be exact replicas of precious artifacts of Iraqi heritage. The real masterpieces of antiquity are said to be in Baghdad.

“They were copies. The originals are all here,” Baghdad’s museum director told Germany’s Deutsche Welle.

The head of the antiquity department in Iraq’s cultural heritage authority, Fawzye al-Mahdi, also told the German broadcaster that “none” of the artifacts “were originals.”

This, experts say, explains why in a video that shows the destruction statues crumble so easily.

“The reason they crumble so easily is that they’re made of plaster. You can see iron bars inside,” Mark Altaweel of the Institute of Archaeology at University College, London said to Channel 4.



So the whole story, complete with dramatic video, was about replicas…

That didn’t stop another wash of mainstream media attention given to the idea that ISIS the almighty and powerful was tromping the countryside, destroying precious, ancient, irreplaceable 2700-year-old artifacts and robbing the world of them forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1pGJPMp9fY

The Diplomat: ISIS Is Destroying Priceless Artifacts. Here’s How to Stop Them.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/03/isis-is-destroying-priceless-artifacts-heres-how-to-stop-them/

The Daily Beast: ISIS Destroys Biblical Artifacts in Iraq
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/02/26/isis-ransacks-sacred-artifacts-in-iraq.html

None of these outlets has posted a new story that I could find correcting their previous information about how these items were just fakes and the 2700-year-old irreplaceable items were actually totally replaceable replicas.

CNN really went to town whipping people up in a frenzy over it, complete with replay after replay of the video of the fakes being destroyed in dramatic fashion, sometimes slow motion, in multiple stories throughout the last few weeks:

So, now that it has come to light that these were simply fakes, where is CNN’s story about how they were simply fakes?

I just did a search and couldn’t seem to find it.

Guess all those ill-informed CNN viewers have absolutely no idea what really happened since they barely even get one side of the news to begin with; they only know that they should be more upset and shaking in their boots and afraid of the wrath of ISIS with every passing day…

Then again, CNN is the same channel that insisted ISIS is able to lure women with the magical powers of Nutella and kittens… for real.

Yeah, well, at least some of us weren’t buying the ISIS beheading videos either.

More ridiculous ISIS propaganda, brought to you by The Daily Sheeple:

OH COME ON: ISIS Just So Happens to Hack CENTCOM as Obama Is Announcing New Cyber Security Legislation?

Even Senator McCain ‘Accidentally’ Refers to the Syrian Rebels as ‘ISIS’

The U.S. Veteran Fighting ISIS in Syria is Obviously a Propaganda Shill

Mainstream Media Discovers What Created ISIS – Global Warming!


Links for the article I posted and all the headlines are at...http://www.thedailysheeple.com/another-media-psyop-the-ancient-statues-isis-supposedly-destroyed-were-all-fake_032015

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Tue 03/17/15 03:03 PM


1. The authentic Putin is on the right. Look at the center of his face. The distance from the eyes to the mouth is greater than the new "Putin" on the left, and the mouth is closer to the bottom of the chin on the real Putin. This cannot change regardless of circumstance.

2. The nose is not the same nose, the mouth is not the same mouth, and what about that double chin? The body double is good enough to fool an assassin from a distance, but simply does not cut it for side by side comparison, even with small photos. We did not see Putin today, PERIOD.

As for when the real Putin disappeared, all I can say is LOOK AT THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT, THAT IS THE REAL PUTIN. If any photo you see does not match, it simply is not Putin.

Here it is again, with more detail:


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Tue 03/17/15 02:54 PM
See, here's the thing, moe. Israel through the media outlets it has has been claiming Iran is "month's away from making nukes" since the 1980's.

That's a whole generation ago.

Iran has proven to the entire world their intentions are peaceful. That is why Obama is talking to them.

Israel, OTOH,....well, lets just say they have also proven to the world, their intentions are not entirely peaceful or honorable and their media is STILL telling the same lie they told a generation ago.

I know, I know, ...that's called "chutzpah". You guys admire that sort of thing. I understand, I really do.

Thing is? The rest of the world doesn't admire chutzpah. The rest of the world tends to deplore chutzpah, preferring simple honesty and fair minded co-operation instead.

Using trade diplomacy for the acquisition of resources instead of using war and conquest.


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Tue 03/17/15 02:44 PM


Israel is a great ally?

Thanks to our "great ally".....A bipartisan majority of House lawmakers have written a letter to President Obama backing up the letter 47 GOP senators controversially addressed to Iran on Monday with dire warnings about the impending nuke deal.

Some 250 members had signed the House letter by Friday afternoon, a clear majority of the chamber.

Its authors, House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Ed Royce, R-Calif., and the panel’s top Democrat, Eliot Engel of New York, are still gathering more signatures but will send the letter to Obama soon.

The growing schism between the pro-Israel members of Congress (which is most of them) and the White House is now on full display to the rest of the world, along with Israel's obvious subversion of that Congress.

Neither of these are good for America's foreign policy as other countries see a government clearly divided against itself and all because of meddling by Israel.




wrong again, seems to be meme here... they don't want Iran to have Nukes, plain and simple...

obarry wants to loosen restrictions so Iran can have them, thats why
Netanyahu was invited by congress, not obarry...


Well, that's not entirely accurate, moe. I understand though. You get your news from western media which covers up facts. I get my news from Eastern media which reports the facts.

Small wonder our mutual viewpoints are in constant conflict.

1. Iran only wants nuclear power for electricity and medical isotopes. Israel wants the sole monopoly in the Middle East on both electricity and medical isotopes.

2. Obama is briefed by the NCS each and every morning. Needless to say his NSC briefing is MUCH more accurate then western media news.

3. Boehner invited Netanyahu to address Congress. Which is a violation of the Logan Act. Illegal, in other words.



I don't expect you to agree with anything I posted.

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Tue 03/17/15 02:33 PM

Thank You, Bobby...

I think I'm a little late in having viewed these threads.

I'll start from the beginning.

I'm on a 9 inch Net Book and it's clear enough, for Your information.

It's about 6 years old, but it does the trick.


It's a long thread, I'll grant you.

"ISIS" is just a gimmick used to keep the war agenda afloat in Syria and Iraq. They didn't exist 10 month's ago.

ISIS are military contractors. You know how many times "Blackwater" has changed their name?

ISIS may even be Blackwater.

But, here's the thing. Iraqi special forces captured, 1 US adviser, 2 Israeli Mossad advisers, and 1 Arab adviser in Iraq last week.

Confiscated their ID's too.

Western media is covering that up. Eastern media reported it and I posted the news article in moe's thread.

My point being...... Everyone in the ....whole world ....w/ the exception of Americans who get their news from western media and some people in Europe now know who and what ISIS really is.


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Tue 03/17/15 02:23 PM
Edited by Bobby1050 on Tue 03/17/15 02:25 PM



Bobby...

Are You more or less saying that the terrorist Hadithites are a bunch of misfit Jews claiming to be Muslims ?

(Really Got The Wheels Turning In My Head, Right Now)


I posted this in moes "Obama removes Iran and Hezb’Allah from list of terror thre" thread, but it is equally appropriate here.

BUSTED! ISIS intelligence front American based and TOTALLY OPEN ABOUT IT



First of all, apply your own brain to this, because it is SO UNBELIEVABLE but it does fly with me, I really believe they are so confident of their ability to rig the media that they can be this far out in the open. According to an American based web site for a company called ISIS:

"ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.


WTF? Know what I think now? That THIS company is the one managing Iraq and they are providing a layer of separation for the military. I think THIS company is another Blackwater and that they are managing, supporting and supervising IDIOTS on the ground in Iraq. It is well known that "ISIS" is now the world's best funded "terror group". What better way to accomplish that than this?

The blatant brazen naming of the "terror front" in Iraq after a military company that specifically works this arena in exactly the way that would be needed to do all of this is in my opinion a dead giveaway, ISIS IS BUSTED.

OVERVIEW


ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.

ISIS Management

The members of our management team have extensive industry experience, supervising, managing and serving on numerous OGA contracts operating in the Middle East, Europe, Asia and Africa in the protection of U.S. national interests.Collectively, we’ve served as army intelligence officers; in special operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Panama and Haiti; as consultants for the U.S. Government on the Counter-Narcotics and Drug Interdiction Task Force, and more. Over the last 10 years, our leadership has successfully obtained and managed millions of dollars worth of government and corporate security contracts. READ MORE

Mission and Values

ISIS delivers critical services and support to help government and private organizations achieve mission success in demanding environments around the world. READ MORE

LOCATIONS

ISIS is headquartered in Sierra Vista, Arizona, outside of Fort Huachuca, with offices in The Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C. Through its associations with various military, defense and business clients, ISIS maintains a presence in several states across the country, as well as a number of countries in the middle east.



https://public.isishq.com/public/about/default.aspx




This is all so blatantly obvious.

HERE is their Washington DC phone number: 202-204-3048

I suggest people call them and ask them how they are doing with all the trouble from ISIS IN IRAQ!


Quote from conrad_73:

Man,you are really a Trip and a Half!


Argumentum ad Hominem (abusive and circumstantial): the fallacy of attacking the character or circumstances of an individual who is advancing a statement or an argument instead of trying to disprove the truth of the statement or the soundness of the argument. Often the argument is characterized simply as a personal attack.

The personal attack is also often termed an "ad personem argument": the statement or argument at issue is dropped from consideration or is ignored, and the locutor's character or circumstances are used to influence opinion.

The fallacy draws its appeal from the technique of "getting personal." The assumption is that what the locutor is saying is entirely or partially dictated by his character or special circumstances and so should be disregarded.

http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/person.html
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You are free to refute any of the facts I have posted at any time using facts of your own, you know.

That is what a debate is all about.

It's about using the best facts to present the best argument.

A debate is not about seeing who can post the most or even the best logical fallacies.

Debate Definition
dictionary.search.yahoo.com
v. verb
1. To consider something; deliberate.
2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.
3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument.
n. noun
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration.
passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition.

Trolling:

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
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See the difference?

Bobby1050's photo
Tue 03/17/15 02:16 PM

Okay Bobby... I need briefer answers here.

And so this Logo in the picture You've just posted, with 'ISIS' on it...

What is this America based ISIS acronym stand for?


I'm guessing you're using an Iphone rather than some sort of computer? My gf showed me what her messages on her Iphone look like. They're tiny. I could barely see them. I imagine this thread / discussion looks similar to you.

The answers to your question are in the post I made. If you can't see the answers or the post I made clearly...well, that's too bad. You have my sincerest sympathies.

My advice? Use a computer.

Here is the thing about ISIS. It's a western media name. The western media changes their name all the time. Now they're supposed to be plain IS. The media also calls them ISIL...or Daesh...or Daish.

That's a trick intended to keep the public confused.

Consider this?

They're are TWO "ISIS's".

One is the PR unit led by Mossad agent Shimon Elliot. He has a couple of dozen men and they have access to US military equipment. They pose for photo's while carrying the Made in Israel ISIS flags. They are the ones that show up on the nightly news and in the newspapers.

Meanwhile, the field group of ISIS, is out murdering innocent women, children, and the elderly, in Syria and Iraq. Military contractors; i.e. "advisers", leading a rag tag group of misfits killing civilians.

Paving the way for future Israeli colonization of Syria and Iraq.

Iraqi special forces captured 1 US adviser, 2 Israeli Mossad advisers and 1 Arab adviser last week. I posted that in Moes thread also. Go check it out.

Bobby1050's photo
Tue 03/17/15 01:28 PM

Bobby...

Are You more or less saying that the terrorist Hadithites are a bunch of misfit Jews claiming to be Muslims ?

(Really Got The Wheels Turning In My Head, Right Now)


I posted this in moes "Obama removes Iran and Hezb’Allah from list of terror thre" thread, but it is equally appropriate here.

BUSTED! ISIS intelligence front American based and TOTALLY OPEN ABOUT IT



First of all, apply your own brain to this, because it is SO UNBELIEVABLE but it does fly with me, I really believe they are so confident of their ability to rig the media that they can be this far out in the open. According to an American based web site for a company called ISIS:

"ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.


WTF? Know what I think now? That THIS company is the one managing Iraq and they are providing a layer of separation for the military. I think THIS company is another Blackwater and that they are managing, supporting and supervising IDIOTS on the ground in Iraq. It is well known that "ISIS" is now the world's best funded "terror group". What better way to accomplish that than this?

The blatant brazen naming of the "terror front" in Iraq after a military company that specifically works this arena in exactly the way that would be needed to do all of this is in my opinion a dead giveaway, ISIS IS BUSTED.

OVERVIEW


ISIS is headquartered outside Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista, Arizona. Our Washington D.C. office is located in the Ronald Reagan Building. We are dedicated to supporting our national defense and security departments, as well as government contractors and private business, with mission-critical services performed by highly skilled experts in their fields. ISIS professionals can be found working side by side with the U.S. Armed Forces, U.S. Government and Prime Contractors on the ground in such strategic environments as the Middle East. See Our Locations Map at the bottom of the page.

ISIS Management

The members of our management team have extensive industry experience, supervising, managing and serving on numerous OGA contracts operating in the Middle East, Europe, Asia and Africa in the protection of U.S. national interests.Collectively, we’ve served as army intelligence officers; in special operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Panama and Haiti; as consultants for the U.S. Government on the Counter-Narcotics and Drug Interdiction Task Force, and more. Over the last 10 years, our leadership has successfully obtained and managed millions of dollars worth of government and corporate security contracts. READ MORE

Mission and Values

ISIS delivers critical services and support to help government and private organizations achieve mission success in demanding environments around the world. READ MORE

LOCATIONS

ISIS is headquartered in Sierra Vista, Arizona, outside of Fort Huachuca, with offices in The Ronald Reagan Building in Washington, D.C. Through its associations with various military, defense and business clients, ISIS maintains a presence in several states across the country, as well as a number of countries in the middle east.



https://public.isishq.com/public/about/default.aspx




This is all so blatantly obvious.

HERE is their Washington DC phone number: 202-204-3048

I suggest people call them and ask them how they are doing with all the trouble from ISIS IN IRAQ!

Bobby1050's photo
Tue 03/17/15 01:15 PM

What's scary about this, is I'm starting to think the Hadithites are a bunch of Jews gone crazy.

What is this...? The Putz Review ? surprised


Scary? Consider this?

What kind of "terrorist" army travels around with their own jewish journalists and jewish cameramen embedded with them?

Always ready to upload the latest "ISIS" story and photo's to Reuters; (Bank of Rothschild owned media outlet); whom all the rest of the western MSM links to?




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