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Topic: Should men have a say in....
therapy30's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:17 PM
Edited by therapy30 on Sun 04/05/09 12:21 PM
their GF's decision of keeping or aborting baby ?

It takes both a man and a woman to make a child is because nature
knew it would take both a man and a woman to raise that child. When the man shrugs his paternal obligation, the woman is left with burden that wasn’t meant to be shouldered by one person.

What are your views friends ???


no photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:20 PM
Edited by Purelifeman on Sun 04/05/09 12:21 PM
I am pro-life nobody has the say to end the childs life brokenheart

Riding_Dubz's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:20 PM
that would require sex, oops rofl

no photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:21 PM
Well if a man shrugs and walks away, then no, it is only a one person decision.

But that isn't always the situation.
I don't think women should make that choice alone when the "father" is still around.


nikita5's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:21 PM
If the man no longer wants to be in her life...than no.It should be her decision whether she wants to terminate the pregnancy,because it is her life that will drastically change.

MAKE_ME_GIGGLE's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:21 PM
If he walked away.... no... he has no say

if she doesnt tell him... wrong!

he has every right to know and i feel every man has a right to say you dont want it, i do


therapy30's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:22 PM
Edited by therapy30 on Sun 04/05/09 12:22 PM
i just edited my post, please read it again.
what if women wants to abort and man don't

therapy30's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:24 PM
Thanks all for sharing flowerforyou

no photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:24 PM

i just edited my post, please read it again.
what if women wants to abort and man don't


You can't edit after having responses :tongue:

therapy30's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:26 PM
I know its tough alone but don't you think we aren't addressing the sin of terminating a life.think

Dan99's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:26 PM
I dont think that a man can really have any say in what the woman should do. Its her body at the end of the day. We can advise and persuade, but the decision is always going to be hers.

no photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:26 PM

their GF's abortion ???

It takes both a man and a woman to make a child is because nature
knew it would take both a man and a woman to raise that child. When the man shrugs his paternal obligation, the woman is left with burden that wasn’t meant to be shouldered by one person.

What are your views friends ???


:heart: THIS issue will never have an end in this land.
And it always cause's people to fight about their thoughts.
As for me, I KNOW THIS, it will change her life forever if she kills it, or keeps it. As for the guy,,it also will always stay in his mind on their decision, and it should be a joined decision.
But clearly the women has the last word.
In my life I have never been with a lady that had that done. Nor would I ever want her to. LIFE is LIFE..and to kill ANY life for the reason that it does not fit their life-style is insane.
But conception through rape is also WRONG and that in my mind should be allowed...and adoption should be the FIRST thought if any lady doesn't want the baby,,,NOT death by her minds lack of wanting it.
OK,,here comes the fighting,wink,..
Good luck on your post..drinker

therapy30's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:28 PM


i just edited my post, please read it again.
what if women wants to abort and man don't


You can't edit after having responses :tongue:

sorry dear. but that wouldn't make much change, I guess.

therapy30's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:32 PM


their GF's abortion ???

It takes both a man and a woman to make a child is because nature
knew it would take both a man and a woman to raise that child. When the man shrugs his paternal obligation, the woman is left with burden that wasn’t meant to be shouldered by one person.

What are your views friends ???


:heart: THIS issue will never have an end in this land.
And it always cause's people to fight about their thoughts.
As for me, I KNOW THIS, it will change her life forever if she kills it, or keeps it. As for the guy,,it also will always stay in his mind on their decision, and it should be a joined decision.
But clearly the women has the last word.
In my life I have never been with a lady that had that done. Nor would I ever want her to. LIFE is LIFE..and to kill ANY life for the reason that it does not fit their life-style is insane.
But conception through rape is also WRONG and that in my mind should be allowed...and adoption should be the FIRST thought if any lady doesn't want the baby,,,NOT death by her minds lack of wanting it.
OK,,here comes the fighting,wink,..
Good luck on your post..drinker


Thanks. I hope we all would keep up harmoniously here. It is quite a debatable topic, indeed. As I have mentioned "girl friend", lets rule out rape here to narrow down the responses.

TelephoneMan's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:36 PM
Well...

... when I was in my teens, I had two different girlfriends get pregnant...

one... wanted an abortion, nothing I could do about that... she had an abortion... I thought we were in love, I asked her to marry me, she didn't give a $hit... had the abortion anyways... we broke up a year or so later... looking back, she was a psychopath, and I can see how she could justify murdering an innocent... come to find out... (this was before fancy ultra-sounds and stuff)... she was going to give birth to TRIPLETS... so she killed three babies instead of one...

the other... had the child... nothing I could do about that, either... we had broke up a month beofre she knew she was pregnant... she stiill went through with the child birth... and dated some other dude while she was pregnant... they got married and he adopted the baby... nothing I could do about any of it...

in my life, the woman chose the decision was hers... I suppose if we had been married, might have been different, but that's what happened to me...

If I had to decide from my experience which choice was better on the father, I would choose the latter, at least maybe some day I will see my daughter... with the abortion, that will never be possible...

It should NOT be a political issue... I do know that... too many politicians lining their pockets at the expense of an embryo... that's just plain unethical...

we need to educate kids and help them understand birth control... instead we still live in a society of prudes that believe it is unethical to teach children about sex (howbeits when I was a kid in the '60s and '70s it was even worse...)

generally, people like to have sex once they figure out how to use their reproductive organs... it is exciting and natural... but it also has consequences, like pregnancy... which still surprise teenagers when it happens to them... nothing about that has changed... you screw around, you get pregnant... its simple biology...

hacking the kid out of your stomach is no answer... but then it sucks when you adopt the kid and prevent the father from ever seeing the baby... for over 26 years I have wondered what Amanda Jane looks like... I mat never know... but at least I know she is alive... and didn't get vacuum-sucked out of her mother's body like the triplets I will never see..................





no photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:39 PM



i just edited my post, please read it again.
what if women wants to abort and man don't


You can't edit after having responses :tongue:

sorry dear. but that wouldn't make much change, I guess.



I think there should be some sort of compromise to come to.
It didn't take one to make so it shouldn't take one
to take it all away.
They should both weigh out their reasonings and make their decision from there.
However, I will say, there is ALWAYS someone to love that child even
if it isn't themselves.

Riding_Dubz's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:40 PM
1-800-wrap-it-up

tanyaann's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:40 PM



their GF's abortion ???

It takes both a man and a woman to make a child is because nature
knew it would take both a man and a woman to raise that child. When the man shrugs his paternal obligation, the woman is left with burden that wasn’t meant to be shouldered by one person.

What are your views friends ???


:heart: THIS issue will never have an end in this land.
And it always cause's people to fight about their thoughts.
As for me, I KNOW THIS, it will change her life forever if she kills it, or keeps it. As for the guy,,it also will always stay in his mind on their decision, and it should be a joined decision.
But clearly the women has the last word.
In my life I have never been with a lady that had that done. Nor would I ever want her to. LIFE is LIFE..and to kill ANY life for the reason that it does not fit their life-style is insane.
But conception through rape is also WRONG and that in my mind should be allowed...and adoption should be the FIRST thought if any lady doesn't want the baby,,,NOT death by her minds lack of wanting it.
OK,,here comes the fighting,wink,..
Good luck on your post..drinker


Thanks. I hope we all would keep up harmoniously here. It is quite a debatable topic, indeed. As I have mentioned "girl friend", lets rule out rape here to narrow down the responses.


Just to clarify... rape can occur between husband and wife.

therapy30's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:40 PM

Well...

... when I was in my teens, I had two different girlfriends get pregnant...

one... wanted an abortion, nothing I could do about that... she had an abortion... I thought we were in love, I asked her to marry me, she didn't give a $hit... had the abortion anyways... we broke up a year or so later... looking back, she was a psychopath, and I can see how she could justify murdering an innocent... come to find out... (this was before fancy ultra-sounds and stuff)... she was going to give birth to TRIPLETS... so she killed three babies instead of one...

the other... had the child... nothing I could do about that, either... we had broke up a month beofre she knew she was pregnant... she stiill went through with the child birth... and dated some other dude while she was pregnant... they got married and he adopted the baby... nothing I could do about any of it...

in my life, the woman chose the decision was hers... I suppose if we had been married, might have been different, but that's what happened to me...

If I had to decide from my experience which choice was better on the father, I would choose the latter, at least maybe some day I will see my daughter... with the abortion, that will never be possible...

It should NOT be a political issue... I do know that... too many politicians lining their pockets at the expense of an embryo... that's just plain unethical...

we need to educate kids and help them understand birth control... instead we still live in a society of prudes that believe it is unethical to teach children about sex (howbeits when I was a kid in the '60s and '70s it was even worse...)

generally, people like to have sex once they figure out how to use their reproductive organs... it is exciting and natural... but it also has consequences, like pregnancy... which still surprise teenagers when it happens to them... nothing about that has changed... you screw around, you get pregnant... its simple biology...

hacking the kid out of your stomach is no answer... but then it sucks when you adopt the kid and prevent the father from ever seeing the baby... for over 26 years I have wondered what Amanda Jane looks like... I mat never know... but at least I know she is alive... and didn't get vacuum-sucked out of her mother's body like the triplets I will never see..................







flowerforyou Thanks for sharing. Had it been a right of a father to have a say in the abortion, then surely you would have stopped her aborting the triplets. Thats the point. If its mutual, it can be digested otherwise not.

therapy30's photo
Sun 04/05/09 12:43 PM




their GF's abortion ???

It takes both a man and a woman to make a child is because nature
knew it would take both a man and a woman to raise that child. When the man shrugs his paternal obligation, the woman is left with burden that wasn’t meant to be shouldered by one person.

What are your views friends ???


:heart: THIS issue will never have an end in this land.
And it always cause's people to fight about their thoughts.
As for me, I KNOW THIS, it will change her life forever if she kills it, or keeps it. As for the guy,,it also will always stay in his mind on their decision, and it should be a joined decision.
But clearly the women has the last word.
In my life I have never been with a lady that had that done. Nor would I ever want her to. LIFE is LIFE..and to kill ANY life for the reason that it does not fit their life-style is insane.
But conception through rape is also WRONG and that in my mind should be allowed...and adoption should be the FIRST thought if any lady doesn't want the baby,,,NOT death by her minds lack of wanting it.
OK,,here comes the fighting,wink,..
Good luck on your post..drinker


Thanks. I hope we all would keep up harmoniously here. It is quite a debatable topic, indeed. As I have mentioned "girl friend", lets rule out rape here to narrow down the responses.


Just to clarify... rape can occur between husband and wife.


Yes it can. But, I have precisely mentioned "GF". Decision to keep the child or not between husband and wife increases the horizon, I guess.

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