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Topic: Is Waterboarding Torture?
mightymoe's photo
Mon 11/14/11 03:24 PM




again, all these people talking and no one knows what they are talking about again... no one has ever been harmed or died from waterboarding, all it does is make them uncomfortable for a while... you lefties need to get a life...


There is is another Hannity in the house.

Why don't you test it out


i don't have a big problem with it, unlike the foolish lefties...
i've been through worse...


Please do tell us about it


how about you just keep talking about something you know nothing about, like the rest of the lefties...

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/14/11 03:30 PM





again, all these people talking and no one knows what they are talking about again... no one has ever been harmed or died from waterboarding, all it does is make them uncomfortable for a while... you lefties need to get a life...


There is is another Hannity in the house.

Why don't you test it out


i don't have a big problem with it, unlike the foolish lefties...
i've been through worse...


Please do tell us about it


how about you just keep talking about something you know nothing about, like the rest of the lefties...


Seriously I am interested in hearing what you have been through that is worse than waterboarding.....were you tortured??

mightymoe's photo
Mon 11/14/11 03:33 PM






again, all these people talking and no one knows what they are talking about again... no one has ever been harmed or died from waterboarding, all it does is make them uncomfortable for a while... you lefties need to get a life...


There is is another Hannity in the house.

Why don't you test it out


i don't have a big problem with it, unlike the foolish lefties...
i've been through worse...


Please do tell us about it


how about you just keep talking about something you know nothing about, like the rest of the lefties...


Seriously I am interested in hearing what you have been through that is worse than waterboarding.....were you tortured??


i take it you have never broken a bone? or been cut or stabbed? me, all 3... so don't try to compare a few minutes of being uncomfortable with any one of those 3...like i said, not one person has died or been injured in any way during a waterboarding incident...

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/14/11 03:36 PM







again, all these people talking and no one knows what they are talking about again... no one has ever been harmed or died from waterboarding, all it does is make them uncomfortable for a while... you lefties need to get a life...


There is is another Hannity in the house.

Why don't you test it out


i don't have a big problem with it, unlike the foolish lefties...
i've been through worse...


Please do tell us about it


how about you just keep talking about something you know nothing about, like the rest of the lefties...


Seriously I am interested in hearing what you have been through that is worse than waterboarding.....were you tortured??


i take it you have never broken a bone? or been cut or stabbed? me, all 3... so don't try to compare a few minutes of being uncomfortable with any one of those 3...like i said, not one person has died or been injured in any way during a waterboarding incident...


And there was I thinking you might have had your fingernails pulled out by a pliers or electrodes attached to your testicles

mightymoe's photo
Mon 11/14/11 03:39 PM








again, all these people talking and no one knows what they are talking about again... no one has ever been harmed or died from waterboarding, all it does is make them uncomfortable for a while... you lefties need to get a life...


There is is another Hannity in the house.

Why don't you test it out


i don't have a big problem with it, unlike the foolish lefties...
i've been through worse...


Please do tell us about it


how about you just keep talking about something you know nothing about, like the rest of the lefties...


Seriously I am interested in hearing what you have been through that is worse than waterboarding.....were you tortured??


i take it you have never broken a bone? or been cut or stabbed? me, all 3... so don't try to compare a few minutes of being uncomfortable with any one of those 3...like i said, not one person has died or been injured in any way during a waterboarding incident...


And there was I thinking you might have had your fingernails pulled out by a pliers or electrodes attached to your testicles


that sounds more like torture, instead of what you lefties consider torture... hell, yall were crying about making a prisoner wear underwear on his head too... silly lefties...

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/14/11 03:41 PM









again, all these people talking and no one knows what they are talking about again... no one has ever been harmed or died from waterboarding, all it does is make them uncomfortable for a while... you lefties need to get a life...


There is is another Hannity in the house.

Why don't you test it out


i don't have a big problem with it, unlike the foolish lefties...
i've been through worse...


Please do tell us about it


how about you just keep talking about something you know nothing about, like the rest of the lefties...


Seriously I am interested in hearing what you have been through that is worse than waterboarding.....were you tortured??


i take it you have never broken a bone? or been cut or stabbed? me, all 3... so don't try to compare a few minutes of being uncomfortable with any one of those 3...like i said, not one person has died or been injured in any way during a waterboarding incident...


And there was I thinking you might have had your fingernails pulled out by a pliers or electrodes attached to your testicles


that sounds more like torture, instead of what you lefties consider torture... hell, yall were crying about making a prisoner wear underwear on his head too... silly lefties...


Did you not have a happy childhood Moe

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 11/14/11 03:50 PM







Water boarding is considered torture under International Law...Obama banned it in in the US in 2009...It really didn't get much press here in the states until 2004 when it was made public that it was allegedly used in 02 and 03 by the Bush administration as a means of interrogating three suspected a-Qaeda terrorists.....In 02, The US Legal Counsel did write a memorandum which concluded water boarding was NOT torture and could be used for interrogation purposes...Does that make it right? Probably not...I am hard put to choose a side on this one because after 9/11, the game changed.....Those like Herman Cain, Governor Perry, and Michele Bachman who state unequivocally they would reinstate it if they were elected may not be in the majority, but at least they are being up front about it and I am sure they have access to more facts than I do or ever will have...In all honesty, if I was ever in a position where I had to make a choice and I was convinced American lives were at stake and I could save those lives, I would use any means I could to get the information I needed to protect innocent citizens.....PLEASE DON'T WATER BOARD ME!!!:laughing:
They did more than water board. Here are some of the photos look if you wish to be better informed. Warning they are graphic in nature.

Let me fix these for you so people can "LOOK"

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560

It makes me sick we have people in our country that do these things and even sicker others allow it.

Thanks for makeing the links live, im still useing the cut and paste method.


Even though you know it doesn't work? rofl And you are critiquing me?
No mam I am thanking you. I am useing a cut and paste of the link then pasteing it to my browser it works just fine, for those who find it to much trouble to left click and paste a live link works just as well.

So they look alot worse than mere water boarding dont they?

Out of the thousands of people tortured I wonder how many were found guilty?


Like Conrad, I wonder if they are real.....
have you come to a verdict Madam?

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/14/11 03:58 PM








Water boarding is considered torture under International Law...Obama banned it in in the US in 2009...It really didn't get much press here in the states until 2004 when it was made public that it was allegedly used in 02 and 03 by the Bush administration as a means of interrogating three suspected a-Qaeda terrorists.....In 02, The US Legal Counsel did write a memorandum which concluded water boarding was NOT torture and could be used for interrogation purposes...Does that make it right? Probably not...I am hard put to choose a side on this one because after 9/11, the game changed.....Those like Herman Cain, Governor Perry, and Michele Bachman who state unequivocally they would reinstate it if they were elected may not be in the majority, but at least they are being up front about it and I am sure they have access to more facts than I do or ever will have...In all honesty, if I was ever in a position where I had to make a choice and I was convinced American lives were at stake and I could save those lives, I would use any means I could to get the information I needed to protect innocent citizens.....PLEASE DON'T WATER BOARD ME!!!:laughing:
They did more than water board. Here are some of the photos look if you wish to be better informed. Warning they are graphic in nature.

Let me fix these for you so people can "LOOK"

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560

It makes me sick we have people in our country that do these things and even sicker others allow it.

Thanks for makeing the links live, im still useing the cut and paste method.


Even though you know it doesn't work? rofl And you are critiquing me?
No mam I am thanking you. I am useing a cut and paste of the link then pasteing it to my browser it works just fine, for those who find it to much trouble to left click and paste a live link works just as well.

So they look alot worse than mere water boarding dont they?

Out of the thousands of people tortured I wonder how many were found guilty?


Like Conrad, I wonder if they are real.....
have you come to a verdict Madam?


She cannot believe they are real

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:01 PM
Edited by Bestinshow on Mon 11/14/11 04:01 PM









Water boarding is considered torture under International Law...Obama banned it in in the US in 2009...It really didn't get much press here in the states until 2004 when it was made public that it was allegedly used in 02 and 03 by the Bush administration as a means of interrogating three suspected a-Qaeda terrorists.....In 02, The US Legal Counsel did write a memorandum which concluded water boarding was NOT torture and could be used for interrogation purposes...Does that make it right? Probably not...I am hard put to choose a side on this one because after 9/11, the game changed.....Those like Herman Cain, Governor Perry, and Michele Bachman who state unequivocally they would reinstate it if they were elected may not be in the majority, but at least they are being up front about it and I am sure they have access to more facts than I do or ever will have...In all honesty, if I was ever in a position where I had to make a choice and I was convinced American lives were at stake and I could save those lives, I would use any means I could to get the information I needed to protect innocent citizens.....PLEASE DON'T WATER BOARD ME!!!:laughing:
They did more than water board. Here are some of the photos look if you wish to be better informed. Warning they are graphic in nature.

Let me fix these for you so people can "LOOK"

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560

It makes me sick we have people in our country that do these things and even sicker others allow it.

Thanks for makeing the links live, im still useing the cut and paste method.


Even though you know it doesn't work? rofl And you are critiquing me?
No mam I am thanking you. I am useing a cut and paste of the link then pasteing it to my browser it works just fine, for those who find it to much trouble to left click and paste a live link works just as well.

So they look alot worse than mere water boarding dont they?

Out of the thousands of people tortured I wonder how many were found guilty?


Like Conrad, I wonder if they are real.....
have you come to a verdict Madam?


She cannot believe they are real
I wish they were not real however they are.

I remember a time when we were the good guys.

The people of my youth who would do such things were usaly nazis in an old war movie.

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:37 PM

again, all these people talking and no one knows what they are talking about again... no one has ever been harmed or died from waterboarding, all it does is make them uncomfortable for a while... you lefties need to get a life...


Like optomistic said, 'why don't ya try it out'. Then you can fill us all in on the details since were so uninformed.
I'd be curious to know what the most 'uncomfortable' part would be.
Could be when getting tied down, or the bag going over the head, probably those doing this are threatening the entire time, that would be uncomfortable. Maybe when the water is forced down the throat.
Could very well be the part when ones feels the ultimate fear of death and ***** his pants.
wow, that does sound uncomfortable

boredinaz06's photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:41 PM


Water boarding is only torture if you're innocent and this is why we need to water board.

no photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:44 PM








Water boarding is considered torture under International Law...Obama banned it in in the US in 2009...It really didn't get much press here in the states until 2004 when it was made public that it was allegedly used in 02 and 03 by the Bush administration as a means of interrogating three suspected a-Qaeda terrorists.....In 02, The US Legal Counsel did write a memorandum which concluded water boarding was NOT torture and could be used for interrogation purposes...Does that make it right? Probably not...I am hard put to choose a side on this one because after 9/11, the game changed.....Those like Herman Cain, Governor Perry, and Michele Bachman who state unequivocally they would reinstate it if they were elected may not be in the majority, but at least they are being up front about it and I am sure they have access to more facts than I do or ever will have...In all honesty, if I was ever in a position where I had to make a choice and I was convinced American lives were at stake and I could save those lives, I would use any means I could to get the information I needed to protect innocent citizens.....PLEASE DON'T WATER BOARD ME!!!:laughing:
They did more than water board. Here are some of the photos look if you wish to be better informed. Warning they are graphic in nature.

Let me fix these for you so people can "LOOK"

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560

It makes me sick we have people in our country that do these things and even sicker others allow it.

Thanks for makeing the links live, im still useing the cut and paste method.


Even though you know it doesn't work? rofl And you are critiquing me?
No mam I am thanking you. I am useing a cut and paste of the link then pasteing it to my browser it works just fine, for those who find it to much trouble to left click and paste a live link works just as well.

So they look alot worse than mere water boarding dont they?

Out of the thousands of people tortured I wonder how many were found guilty?


Like Conrad, I wonder if they are real.....
have you come to a verdict Madam?


They look like cheesy amature basement grade mock ups to me Sir...

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:46 PM



Water boarding is only torture if you're innocent and this is why we need to water board.


should we be 100% sure of guilt or innocence,
or throw caution to the wind?

no photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:48 PM
Why don't we talk about the nearly 3,000 citizens who were crushed to death, burned alive, buried alive, well you get the picture....Now that is what I call torture...But who am I to judge....

Optomistic69's photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:52 PM




Water boarding is only torture if you're innocent and this is why we need to water board.


should we be 100% sure of guilt or innocence,
or throw caution to the wind?


Innocent until proven guilty

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:55 PM





Water boarding is only torture if you're innocent and this is why we need to water board.


should we be 100% sure of guilt or innocence,
or throw caution to the wind?


Innocent until proven guilty


guess we need a sarcasm emoticon :tongue:

teadipper's photo
Mon 11/14/11 04:58 PM

I don't think it is as bad keelhauling.


Keelhauling was a type of naval punishment in the 17th and 18th century. Although officially only the Dutch Navy practiced it, under the name of kielhalen. Keelhauling is a brutal form of corporal punishment which involves dragging the offender underwater from one side of a ship to the other. In a period when the word of the ship captain was law, keelhauling was only one in a variety of unpleasant punishment tactics which could easily kill a sailor.

Keelhauling first appeared in 1560, when a Dutch ordinance outlined the practice and the offenses for which it could be used. Other maritime powers including Britain adopted the practice as well, although it began to be phased out in the 1700s. The Dutch Navy did not ban keelhauling until 1853, when a more humane era of sailing frowned on the practice.

When a sailor was keelhauled, he would be stripped and tied so that he could not swim. Usually a weight was attached to his legs to pull him away from the ship. The sailor was attached to a rope which ran underwater from one side of the ship to the other, and he was rapidly pulled through the water. Assuming the sailor did not usually drown, he would severely injured by extremely sharp barnacles on the underside of the ship, known as the keel. Keelhauling would leave severe scars on the flesh of the sailor, serving as a constant reminder of the event.




That is sort of like saying being shot in the gut is not as bad as being shot in the groin. I do not care for either alternative.

boredinaz06's photo
Mon 11/14/11 05:02 PM




Water boarding is only torture if you're innocent and this is why we need to water board.


should we be 100% sure of guilt or innocence,
or throw caution to the wind?


We need to water board to determine that answer. If you see a dude come out of a bank with a sack of cash in one hand and a gun in the other and you ask "did you just rob that bank?" His reply will be NO! Strap that same dude to a board and pour water on the cloth covering his face and ask that same question and see what he says.

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 11/14/11 05:17 PM





Water boarding is only torture if you're innocent and this is why we need to water board.


should we be 100% sure of guilt or innocence,
or throw caution to the wind?


We need to water board to determine that answer. If you see a dude come out of a bank with a sack of cash in one hand and a gun in the other and you ask "did you just rob that bank?" His reply will be NO! Strap that same dude to a board and pour water on the cloth covering his face and ask that same question and see what he says.


I thought this tactic was used to get information.
If we see the guy come out of the bank with a bag of money and a gun, we can tackle and arrest him. If he says he didn't do it we have a trial and let the jury decide and if he is found guilty we can call him a liar and send him to prison.
Did I miss an amendment in the patriot act...we torture liars?!?!
I gotta take a toke and relax...
thought I was in Nazi Germany!!!~

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 11/14/11 05:18 PM

Why don't we talk about the nearly 3,000 citizens who were crushed to death, burned alive, buried alive, well you get the picture....Now that is what I call torture..



i agree

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