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Since when is thanking god a requirement? If you'd like to thank god, go for it. You can't force others to do that, though. And it's silly to get upset when they don't. "Silly to get upset?" Our country became what it was because enough people were "silly to get upset"! You may not have that right too much longer the way things are going but apparently you are one of the Sheeple that won't get upset when you lose your freedom completely. how does the president not thanking God on thanksgiving affect anyones freedoms? I did not state that his not mentioning God had anything to do with freedom on Thanksgiving, maybe u should read back what I did type. I said he was a hypocrit and he is and gave facts to my opinion in the form of videos. He should either acknowledge and allow all religions or none whatsoever is the exact point I was trying to make. You should not have a dinner at the White House for one religion while denying others their ability to do so. There are many other examples of him placating to Muslims while ignoring others here is the difference: the NATIONAL PRAYER DAY issue was raised by a lawsuit that was still being appealed as to the constitutionality of establishing such a NATIONAL HOLIDAY being contrary to not making a law establishing religion(in other words, its a constitutional matter because of its religious and HOLIDAY nature) ramadan is not a national holiday but a specific religious one which is free to be celebrated or not by each citizen the difference between attending a dinner in celebration of a religious holiday and ENACTING a holiday based in religion is vast and nothing to do with hypocrisy.. |
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i give thanks without mentioning god all the time.
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i give thanks without mentioning god all the time. 
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I thanked the turkey who gave his life to the cause.
He was delicious. |
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Freedom of religion should include freedom from religion. When they are telling the schools and football games that they can't pray to God in Public, how can Obama or any of our Presidents stand up in front of the entire nation and do it? He is going to get jumped on no matter what he does then right? If he thanks God in front of the entire nation, then the schools are going to say, then why can't we do the same thing? It makes perfect sense that he did not thank a "Christian" God in front of a nation filled with many different kinds of religions. No, people should not be the least bit upset. If Christians want to be upset, and they feel better about being upset, there is not much anyone can do about it. They are always whining about something. And people are grasping at straws trying to find things to criticize Obama about. I say to these people, GET A LIFE. I know I do not have to grasp at straws to have many reasons why I hate the guy. YOU are making this a Christian thing, I am not!! I mentioned religion because he is signaling out some while allowing other religious events to occur. He did not mention God at Thanksgiving but he sure acknowledged Ramadan, what don't you understand here? Here are just a few more reasons why I don't like him. Just gonna use key words ... Healthcare reform Cap & Trade treaty Super Congress Involving us in Libya Doing a troops surge in Afganistan instead of the exact opposite he said he would do during his campaign. His acceptance of the Peace Prize when he was barely elected and did nothing whatsoever for peace. ATF gun running to Mexican cartels Just a few of the reasons why I HATE Obama. Did you see anything about religion mentioned in my list? Get off your finger pointing and using the Christian card. |
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I thanked the turkey who gave his life to the cause. He was delicious. He was a real Nathan Hale at that. 
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Even if he had expressed thanks to God, would we know which God he was referring to?
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who cares, really
this is how politics gets screwed up with personal crap,,,, |
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who cares, really this is how politics gets screwed up with personal crap,,,, I very much agree. |
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"This is one reason why I hate Obama. He has no transparency like he promised and any "Change" has been all downward." "Hate" is a strong and consuming word to use toward another human being. "Suspect" is has more of a consensus. I agree, I rarely use the hate word but I do HATE Obama. I'm glad we are still able to use that word 'Hate"if we choose. We could be guilty of a Hate Crime though. What comes next? The Thought Police! The freedom of being able to say what we want may become a thing of the past depending on who our next president is. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 11/26/11 02:27 PM
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Freedom of religion should include freedom from religion. When they are telling the schools and football games that they can't pray to God in Public, how can Obama or any of our Presidents stand up in front of the entire nation and do it? He is going to get jumped on no matter what he does then right? If he thanks God in front of the entire nation, then the schools are going to say, then why can't we do the same thing? It makes perfect sense that he did not thank a "Christian" God in front of a nation filled with many different kinds of religions. No, people should not be the least bit upset. If Christians want to be upset, and they feel better about being upset, there is not much anyone can do about it. They are always whining about something. And people are grasping at straws trying to find things to criticize Obama about. I say to these people, GET A LIFE. I know I do not have to grasp at straws to have many reasons why I hate the guy. YOU are making this a Christian thing, I am not!! I mentioned religion because he is signaling out some while allowing other religious events to occur. He did not mention God at Thanksgiving but he sure acknowledged Ramadan, what don't you understand here? Here are just a few more reasons why I don't like him. Just gonna use key words ... Healthcare reform Cap & Trade treaty Super Congress Involving us in Libya Doing a troops surge in Afganistan instead of the exact opposite he said he would do during his campaign. His acceptance of the Peace Prize when he was barely elected and did nothing whatsoever for peace. ATF gun running to Mexican cartels Just a few of the reasons why I HATE Obama. Did you see anything about religion mentioned in my list? Get off your finger pointing and using the Christian card. Healthcare reform? -- I haven't noticed any. Cap & Trade treaty -- I'll have to look that up. What that his idea? Super Congress -- What is that? Involving us in Libya - New World Order agenda, -they probably made him do that. Doing a troops surge in Afganistan instead of the exact opposite he said he would do during his campaign. --- Do you believe the President has the power you think he does? (They Killed Kennedy when Kennedy defied them and was going to start printing real money.) His acceptance of the Peace Prize when he was barely elected and did nothing whatsoever for peace. That's a b.s. perk that means nothing. What would you expect him to do? Refuse it? ATF gun running to Mexican cartels That operation has been going on since before Obama. Its just business as usual.  |
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Even if he had expressed thanks to God, would we know which God he was referring to? How may Gods are there? 
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"This is one reason why I hate Obama. He has no transparency like he promised and any "Change" has been all downward." "Hate" is a strong and consuming word to use toward another human being. "Suspect" is has more of a consensus. I agree, I rarely use the hate word but I do HATE Obama. "Hate" is self-consuming if it is not used as fuel to motivate you to "change" the situation for the better. Or should I have said "RE-change"? 
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"This is one reason why I hate Obama. He has no transparency like he promised and any "Change" has been all downward." "Hate" is a strong and consuming word to use toward another human being. "Suspect" is has more of a consensus. I agree, I rarely use the hate word but I do HATE Obama. "Hate" is self-consuming if it is not used as fuel to motivate you to "change" the situation for the better. Or should I have said "RE-change"? I agree. I hate no man, especially no singular person in government as its an entire ENTITY that works together on some level for the changes , good or bad, we encounter. |
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There are things we can hate and things we can love about every person, no matter what.
I've never met Obama. I have no reason to "hate" the man. I don't like the corrupt system of government that we have. |
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There are things we can hate and things we can love about every person, no matter what. I've never met Obama. I have no reason to "hate" the man. I don't like the corrupt system of government that we have. very well put, and even then, hate is very extreme in my opinion, I dont know I can say I feel it about much of anything or anybody, although there are exceptions I dont hate people though, I just sometimes dont like their attitude or what they have said or done,,, |
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Edited by
Jenknee
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Sat 11/26/11 02:40 PM
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"This is one reason why I hate Obama. He has no transparency like he promised and any "Change" has been all downward." "Hate" is a strong and consuming word to use toward another human being. "Suspect" is has more of a consensus. Hating Obama gives me the passion to use my voice and tell others to wake up!! You can choose to listen or not to listen. I have joined 2 groups to help support Ron Paul for president, it may be a small part I play but I try to do what I can. One more video in case someone is interested. Alan Keyes speaks out against Obama."Stop Obama or the US will cease to exist" http://youtu.be/xphzHqcLvNs I agree, I rarely use the hate word but I do HATE Obama. "Hate" is self-consuming if it is not used as fuel to motivate you to "change" the situation for the better. Or should I have said "RE-change"? Thankyou for the re-change comment and flower :) Hating Obama gives me the passion to use my voice and tell others to wake up!! You can choose to listen or not to listen. I have joined 2 groups to help support Ron Paul for president, it may be a small part I play but I try to do what I can. I respect anyone's decision on who to vote for. I can only say who I choose and some reasons why. The majority of the media is doing their part to ignore Ron Paul. One more video in case someone is interested. Alan Keyes speaks out against Obama."Stop Obama or the US will cease to exist" http://youtu.be/xphzHqcLvNs |
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Freedom of religion should include freedom from religion. When they are telling the schools and football games that they can't pray to God in Public, how can Obama or any of our Presidents stand up in front of the entire nation and do it? He is going to get jumped on no matter what he does then right? If he thanks God in front of the entire nation, then the schools are going to say, then why can't we do the same thing? It makes perfect sense that he did not thank a "Christian" God in front of a nation filled with many different kinds of religions. No, people should not be the least bit upset. If Christians want to be upset, and they feel better about being upset, there is not much anyone can do about it. They are always whining about something. And people are grasping at straws trying to find things to criticize Obama about. I say to these people, GET A LIFE. I know I do not have to grasp at straws to have many reasons why I hate the guy. YOU are making this a Christian thing, I am not!! I mentioned religion because he is signaling out some while allowing other religious events to occur. He did not mention God at Thanksgiving but he sure acknowledged Ramadan, what don't you understand here? Here are just a few more reasons why I don't like him. Just gonna use key words ... Healthcare reform Cap & Trade treaty Super Congress Involving us in Libya Doing a troops surge in Afganistan instead of the exact opposite he said he would do during his campaign. His acceptance of the Peace Prize when he was barely elected and did nothing whatsoever for peace. ATF gun running to Mexican cartels Just a few of the reasons why I HATE Obama. Did you see anything about religion mentioned in my list? Get off your finger pointing and using the Christian card. Healthcare reform? -- I haven't noticed any. Cap & Trade treaty -- I'll have to look that up. What that his idea? Super Congress -- What is that? Involving us in Libya - New World Order agenda, -they probably made him do that. Doing a troops surge in Afganistan instead of the exact opposite he said he would do during his campaign. --- Do you believe the President has the power you think he does? (They Killed Kennedy when Kennedy defied them and was going to start printing real money.) His acceptance of the Peace Prize when he was barely elected and did nothing whatsoever for peace. That's a b.s. perk that means nothing. What would you expect him to do? Refuse it? ATF gun running to Mexican cartels That operation has been going on since before Obama. Its just business as usual. You laugh now. You are naive to think that all this has not affected you, whether it is now or in the future becuase it will at some point!! Once you do realize it, I highly doubt you will be laughing then. |
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Thanksgiving is a national holiday commemerating the thanks (to god)for the harvest and the fellowship of the puritans in the new land. It really is a "god based" holiday, always has been. I could care less if they take the "christ" out of xmas, or thanking god for the harvest out of Thanksgiving, but trust me, people in the bible belt don't take it well when you do! I'm athiest, a good day off that inspires lots of food and friends works for me. |
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Edited by
Ruth34611
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Sat 11/26/11 03:02 PM
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When we think about Thanksgiving, the first thing that comes to mind is the massive amounts of good food we're going to consume. Sure there's the whole being with family and catching up with our relatives thing, but that's also why we have a couple of drinks and a giant turkey wing. There was a time when the holiday wasn't synonymous with massive amounts of food, or any food for that matter. Up until the 17th century, Thanksgiving had deeper religious roots and was meant to be more of a time of personal reflection and meditation and that included–gasp!–fasting. Chew over that one (and try not to choke on a wishbone).
Sarah Josepha Hale apparently invented the modern Thanksgiving. http://thefw.com/thanksgiving-facts/ |
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