Don't be so testy. I'm on your side. I'm down with Ron Paul!

Lets Shake em up!

But America has been into the gun and drug business long before Obama came to the white house.

Just thought you should know.

Drugs and guns are business as usual for the Bush Cartel and the CIA.

But Obama's reign has not affected me much.

My life is pretty much the same.

I'm too far down the pecking order to notice any ripple effect.

... so far anyway.

well, as a christian, I consider thanksgiving a national holiday(As it doesnt celebrate abundance EVERYWHERE, but only in america)


but christmas which has christs name in it is a different story

No, we are not on the same team,I say that with all respect. I am happy though that you might vote for Ron Paul given the chance.

This is for anyone who is interested in just one aspect of the wrongdoing of our current president. Certainly the loss of a murdered Border Patrol agent has affected many lives, but not yours personally huh Jeanniebean?

http://youtu.be/SwOuKomvI1g Murdered Border Patrol agent

http://youtu.be/Qvk_WICNMLc Holder (attorney general) being questioned along with proof of Operation Fast & Furious

http://youtu.be/TFrApLNmjtk Pay attention to the very first sentence "The President has directed us.." , he mentions Holder also.

The Thanksgiving we celebrate today started this way:

If Thanksgiving seems like some bizarre creation of a 19th century Martha Stewart, that's because it was created by just such a person. Sarah Josepha Hale, a book editor who authored the nursery rhyme 'Mary Had a Little Lamb,' stumbled across a passage written by an early American colonist describing a great meal after a successful harvest that featured four massive turkeys that they shared with some Native Americans from the Wanpanoag tribe. She was so inspired by the passage that she filled her magazines with traditional holidays recipes for stuffed turkey and pumpkin pie (even though the passage made no mention of the traditional Thanksgiving fare) and wrote editorials about the need to recognize this “Thanksgiving” day. Her writing inspired numerous embellished stories and paintings featuring the “first Thanksgiving meal.” Hale also relentlessly petitioned President Abraham Lincoln to recognize the day with a federal holiday for five years before the Great Emancipator announced the first official Thanksgiving proclamation in 1863 to establish it as an official holiday.

My point being that it hasn't really been a religious holiday in a very long time.

Exactly!!

Whatever Obama, or any other president for that matter does is going to piss off or offend someone.

We all get to worship..or not, how ever we want..including Obama.

I prefer links to articles rather than youtube videos, but ok.

There have been many many loss's and deaths due to the drug trade, and drug wars and it has been going on long before Obama was ever elected.

Where there are drugs, there are guns.

America has its drug lords. They are well informed and well protected too. They are also well connected with politicians.

I tried to bring some attention to all the violence in our own country a few years ago due to drugs from Mexico, but people did not seem to care or want to hear about it.

Nope the loss of another border patrol agent did not effect my daily life. Should it? I didn't even know him. And of course it's not something I can do anything about. But I don't blame Obama for it.

The ATF and the CIA have been doing things their own way for a long time. A new president is not going to change much of anything, nor is he going to spend his time micro-managing their drug operations. (And they don't tell him everything either.)

If people feel better blaming that on Obama, it just looks like another excuse to hate the President to me.

They are always going after the "big fish."

The problem with that is the biggest fish of all is probably their own boss. You never know.

If too much emphasis on is placed on "emotional hate"
it WILL trigger "fear", retreat, and paralysis in our nation.
Same goes for Islam-a-phobia.

Audacity is intimidating!

There are people who will always choose to be offended, no matter what he or any other President does. Some people seem to need to be offended by something in order to happy.

The good thing about this country is that we have the freedom to thank god or not thank god when we want.

Truest statement ever.

That is funny

Did you chose a male Turkey because of the extra piece of meat

Truth is, I don't know what sex the turkey was. But it was delicious.

No, we do NOT have the freedom and that is exactly my point. Obama has been picking and choosing what religion and religious practices ONLY he wants. If you invite one, then you should invite them all. Acknowledge Ramadan,(which he did) then he should also acknowledge and allow other events too.

Personally being offended does not make me happy nor do I know anyone who feels that way. Obama cannot offend me personally, he doesn't know me and if he did, I highly doubt he would be capable of offending me. I am just one concerned U.S. citizen, whether anyone likes it or not.

Now the tables are turned perhaps.

Christians have been doing that for years and years.

That is, acknowledging only Christianity and nothing else.

Has there ever been a President elected that was not Christian?(Or claiming to be.)

Nope.

All of my life I have seen countless Christians imply that the only real "God" in existence is theirs, and I've been told that all other Gods and all other religions are false.

NOW you want equality?

This is why we are not on the same team. I'm Christian, you are not.

So, is that your kind of typical Christian thinking? Choosing ups sides?

"I'm Christian, your'e not"

Therefore we could never be friends or on the same "team."

That is your way of thinking.(not mine) I have many Christian friends.

They accept me for who I am. They don't automatically pass judgement because I am not claiming to be Christian.

If you would get to know a person you 'might' discover that you have a lot more in common with them than you think.

But if the first thing a person does is draw a line in the sand where their religious affiliation is concerned and decide that they cannot be associated (or friends) with someone because they don't go to the same church or have the same religion, then they could be losing out on a lot.

I have heard of some Christian denominations who actually teach their congregation not to associate with anyone except people of the same faith which I think is a shame as it adds fuel to the fire of intolerance.

We are all humans and we are all spiritual beings.

Up until this last ten years other religions (besides Christianity) were barely acknowledged at all anywhere. They were practically invisible and non-existent.

Now you say:


I'm curious, What freedom are you claiming that we do not have?




Does he not have that right?



I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to or complaining about. Do you have any specifics?